NFL Offseason 2026

[nicksaviking]

5 hours ago, Mike Sixel said:

So much money for a guy that MIGHT be good. Supply is so damn limited for QBs .

Right, it's a scary situation to be in for the fans. I know how badly most owners want to avoid being outright bad, but if you are putting yourself in position where you are tempted to pay a mediocre QB a salary cap busting amount of money, you need to walk away and try again the following year. The Vikings just can't end up in a spot like the Panthers and Texans are now facing, that Green Bay just stepped into with Love, what the Dolphins and Cardinals did with Tua and Murray and what the Giants and now Colts have done with Jones.

Jones' two year deal probably can't be as disastrous as those others had the potential to be, but all you have to do is see what the Raiders had to eat for Geno Smith, who's ceiling was only ever going to be average at best.

I think these NFL GMs need to also consider this lack of supply and consider if there really is this disparity between the average QB and the has-been QB. How many more games are you actually going to lose if you don't sign this mediocre QB and instead roll with a dollar store veteran? Andy Dalton played as well or better than Bryce Young. Same with Mills and Stroud and Willis and Love and  Brissett and Murray. Wentz was better than McCarthy and even no-name undrafted Tommy DeVito wasn't any worse than Daniel Jones in New York. 

I'd guess the difference between say the top 6 or 7 QBs in the league and the number 15 QB in the league, is miles larger than the difference between the number 15 QB in the league and the number 50 QB in the league.

[nicksaviking]

Trey Hendrickson, Josh Uche and Michael Clemons have all signed since the Maxx Crosby fallout. Might be running out of places to send Greenard if that's still the plan. 

Though I guess Uche has never really been a starter and Hendrickson and Clemons are more DE than edge rushers.  

[Mike Sixel]

3 hours ago, nicksaviking said:

Trey Hendrickson, Josh Uche and Michael Clemons have all signed since the Maxx Crosby fallout. Might be running out of places to send Greenard if that's still the plan. 

Though I guess Uche has never really been a starter and Hendrickson and Clemons are more DE than edge rushers.  

Greenard isn't being traded. This team refuses to get younger. 

[Vanimal46]

Kirko is linked to the Raiders. Him and Fernando Mendoza will be sitting outside MGM Grand calling everyone sinners as they enter the casino 

[nicksaviking]

13 minutes ago, Vanimal46 said:

Kirko is linked to the Raiders. Him and Fernando Mendoza will be sitting outside MGM Grand calling everyone sinners as they enter the casino 

That would be fun. But I think a bad move by the Raiders unless they would actually entertain having Mendoza sit and watch to start the year.

I really don't think Mendoza is all that great of a QB prospect. If you've got a Cam Ward type rookie who's struggling and looking bad, you can't have a big name and very well liked veteran behind him or fans and pundits will be calling to make a switch. Unless you want a legit competition, or you legit want him to sit and watch, this seems like a better spot for Brissett, or Taylor or Wentz. I'd have said Garoppolo but I doubt he's going back to Vegas.

[Vanimal46]

These 2 are either going to get lazy teamed up together, or one will eat the other. No in between. 

[nicksaviking]

1 hour ago, Vanimal46 said:

These 2 are either going to get lazy teamed up together, or one will eat the other. No in between. 

I would pay to watch Schefter get eaten. By angry chimpanzees preferably. He's the worst thing that's ever happened to sports journalism. Knowingly passing off league, team or agent propaganda, disinformation and flat out lies as actual fact based news so he can get a scoop five minutes before real reporters. So many others do it too now, but he was the one who started doing it unapologetically and somehow still has the nerve to deny it.

Note I did say sports journalism. I had to include that bit as sports are still inconsequential compared to real world journalism fraud.

 

[Vanimal46]

20 minutes ago, nicksaviking said:

I would pay to watch Schefter get eaten. By angry chimpanzees preferably. He's the worst thing that's ever happened to sports journalism. Knowingly passing off league, team or agent propaganda, disinformation and flat out lies as actual fact based news so he can get a scoop five minutes before real reporters. So many others do it too now, but he was the one who started doing it unapologetically and somehow still has the nerve to deny it.

Note I did say sports journalism. I had to include that bit as sports are still inconsequential compared to real world journalism fraud.

 

Both insiders have carried the water for any agent/owner just to put their name with the other on a breaking news tweet. Minnesota's own Tom Pelissero is just as complicit too. Now that I've thought about it, Tom P is an NFL Network guy too so I assume he's a future ESPN employee too? It'll be a big 3 of breaking news guys. 

[nicksaviking]

17 minutes ago, Vanimal46 said:

Both insiders have carried the water for any agent/owner just to put their name with the other on a breaking news tweet. Minnesota's own Tom Pelissero is just as complicit too. Now that I've thought about it, Tom P is an NFL Network guy too so I assume he's a future ESPN employee too? It'll be a big 3 of breaking news guys. 

But only the breaking news they want you to know.

[nicksaviking]

So the Raiders significantly improved their defense and now they are forced to keep Crosby. They also significantly improved their OL. Their receiving corp sucks, but they should have a stud RB and TE.

My hot take: they should trade pick 1.1 to the Jets and make sure to get the Jets 1st next year. I know lots of folks like him, but Mendoza is not in the same prospect class of Williams, Maye and Daniels, and those second tier QB prospects have largely been huge busts in recent years. 

That team might under-the-radar not be on it's way to being sneaky decent, but it will all be for not if they don't get the QB spot right. 

Not that I like the Raiders. But if I were a fan, that's what I'd be stumping for.

[The Great Hambino]

21 hours ago, Vanimal46 said:

These 2 are either going to get lazy teamed up together, or one will eat the other. No in between. 

Can we be 100% certain that they're not the same person?

[C-Gangster]

My Sehakwks have been doing absolutely nothing. Like when you win a super bowl don't you want to build on that? I think we will make a splash in thr draft tho.

[Vanimal46]

The Dolphins learned their lesson last time when tanking for Tua. They had just a little too much talent. 

[nicksaviking]

21 minutes ago, Vanimal46 said:

The Dolphins learned their lesson last time when tanking for Tua. They had just a little too much talent. 

I'm not a big believer in Malik Willis, because I think the Packers would have ran a similar offense with him to what they ran with Love if they truly thought Willis could make all the throws and reads.

But still, weird signing now that they're clearly tanking. Two guaranteed years and a decent dead cap hit if he's gone before the third.

Anyway, can't wait to watch an NFL team run an old school option offense.

[Danchat]

20 minutes ago, nicksaviking said:

I'm not a big believer in Malik Willis, because I think the Packers would have ran a similar offense with him to what they ran with Love if they truly thought Willis could make all the throws and reads.

But still, weird signing now that they're clearly tanking. Two guaranteed years and a decent dead cap hit if he's gone before the third.

Anyway, can't wait to watch an NFL team run an old school option offense.

Achane is gonna get every touch on that offense that Willis doesn't run on... gonna be fascinating. Doesn't help that their OL sucked last year. They are probably a lock to draft a  WR in Round 1. 

[nicksaviking]

17 minutes ago, Danchat said:

Achane is gonna get every touch on that offense that Willis doesn't run on... gonna be fascinating. Doesn't help that their OL sucked last year. They are probably a lock to draft a  WR in Round 1. 

If they do, I hope it's with their 11th pick because I don't know that I like more than three of them as first round picks this year, and I'll guess Lemon, Tate and Tyson are all gone by pick 30.

I kind of take that back, I don't hope for anything really. I'm not Dolphins fan. They can stink as long as they want to for all I care.

[Mike Sixel]

Now I really want to trade Addison....

[TheLeviathan]

How in the blue hell does Michael Pittman only get you 20 spots in the 6th round and Waddle gets you a 1st and a 3rd?

 

[Danchat]

37 minutes ago, TheLeviathan said:

How in the blue hell does Michael Pittman only get you 20 spots in the 6th round and Waddle gets you a 1st and a 3rd?

 

Good question... looks like Pittman has 1/$24M left on his deal and Waddle in under contract for 3 years for cap hits of $5M, $27M, then $29M. I guess teams really valuable flexibility but yeah, the Steelers got an absolute steal in comparison. 

[Vanimal46]

I thought the tanking last year was pretty bad for NFL standards. This year will be even worse. Damn near approaching NBA levels of tanking. 

[nicksaviking]

59 minutes ago, TheLeviathan said:

How in the blue hell does Michael Pittman only get you 20 spots in the 6th round and Waddle gets you a 1st and a 3rd?

 

I'd much prefer Waddle, but I completely agree that draft values for existing players is really, really skewed. Either you're worth a 1st, maaaaaaybe a 2nd. And then any talent drop off after that goes to about the 6th round.

Unless you're the Vikings trading for a washed-up Adam Thielen then you have to give up a 4th.

 

[TheLeviathan]

27 minutes ago, nicksaviking said:

I'd much prefer Waddle, but I completely agree that draft values for existing players is really, really skewed. Either you're worth a 1st, maaaaaaybe a 2nd. And then any talent drop off after that goes to about the 6th round.

Unless you're the Vikings trading for a washed-up Adam Thielen then you have to give up a 4th.

 

Waddle and Pittman are pretty similar players the last three years.  And Waddle has had Tua most of that time while Pittman was playing with the corpse of Matt Ryan, a literal grandfather, and Gardner Minshew through most of it.

I see those dudes as pretty similar.  Waddle busted into the league like a rockstar, but he's been pretty middling for awhile now.

[Danchat]

1 hour ago, Vanimal46 said:

I thought the tanking last year was pretty bad for NFL standards. This year will be even worse. Damn near approaching NBA levels of tanking. 

Was anybody intentionally tanking last year? The Raiders weren't tanking as they thought they could be alright with Pete Carroll manning the helm, which was delusional but they weren't trying to lose. The rest of the other teams like the Titans were just plain old bad... the Cardinals did sit Kyler Murray after he recovered from the foot injury. There was a recent report saying that if he tried to play through the injury with it fully healing it would make his chances of having a full-blown Lisfranc fracture higher so that's why they sat him out the rest of the year. So you can make the argument with them, but the other teams like the Giants / Browns are either bad, injured to hell and back, or just incompetent.

[Parfigliano]

3 hours ago, nicksaviking said:

If they do, I hope it's with their 11th pick because I don't know that I like more than three of them as first round picks this year, and I'll guess Lemon, Tate and Tyson are all gone by pick 30.

I kind of take that back, I don't hope for anything really. I'm not Dolphins fan. They can stink as long as they want to for all I care.

They will still finish ahead of the Jets.

[nicksaviking]

20 minutes ago, TheLeviathan said:

Waddle and Pittman are pretty similar players the last three years.  And Waddle has had Tua most of that time while Pittman was playing with the corpse of Matt Ryan, a literal grandfather, and Gardner Minshew through most of it.

I see those dudes as pretty similar.  Waddle busted into the league like a rockstar, but he's been pretty middling for awhile now.

Pittman and Courtland Sutton seem like the same player though, both are big bodied possession receivers who move the chains but don't get you anything after the catch. Waddle still gets moved all over the formation and previously still looked pretty electric after the catch. Last year was a down year, but his whole team was a mess. 

[TheLeviathan]

Just now, nicksaviking said:

Pittman and Courtland Sutton seem like the same player though, both are big bodied possession receivers who move the chains but don't get you anything after the catch. Waddle still gets moved all over the formation and previously still looked pretty electric after the catch. Last year was a down year, but his whole team was a mess. 

Sure, but it's been three pretty subpar years.  I think the shine is off that player.

Either way, the value delta is ridiculous.

[nicksaviking]

4 hours ago, Danchat said:

Was anybody intentionally tanking last year? The Raiders weren't tanking as they thought they could be alright with Pete Carroll manning the helm, which was delusional but they weren't trying to lose. The rest of the other teams like the Titans were just plain old bad... the Cardinals did sit Kyler Murray after he recovered from the foot injury. There was a recent report saying that if he tried to play through the injury with it fully healing it would make his chances of having a full-blown Lisfranc fracture higher so that's why they sat him out the rest of the year. So you can make the argument with them, but the other teams like the Giants / Browns are either bad, injured to hell and back, or just incompetent.

The Raiders definitely tanked the last two games. I don't think the Cardinals tanked but I also don't believe Murray was significantly injured. I think they sat him to protect themselves financially and were foolish enough to think they could trade him. Same with the Dolphins and Tua.

The Browns didn't tank; their defense played lights out through the end of the year. But offensively there probably hasn't been a noticeable difference between the Browns tanking and the Browns playing their hearts out this century so anyone who assumes so should be given equal consideration.

[Mike Sixel]

2 hours ago, nicksaviking said:

I'd much prefer Waddle, but I completely agree that draft values for existing players is really, really skewed. Either you're worth a 1st, maaaaaaybe a 2nd. And then any talent drop off after that goes to about the 6th round.

Unless you're the Vikings trading for a washed-up Adam Thielen then you have to give up a 4th.

 

A fireable offense. 

[nicksaviking]

So is Puka Nacua restarting that old stereotype about knucklehead WRs that can't stay out of trouble? He should be in line for Jaxon Smith Njigba style extension, but the fact that the Rams, a seemingly very smart franchise, didn't beat Seattle to the punch in doing one, makes me think they might be hesitating to give him a big long-term deal.

[Mike Sixel]

1 hour ago, nicksaviking said:

So is Puka Nacua restarting that old stereotype about knucklehead WRs that can't stay out of trouble? He should be in line for Jaxon Smith Njigba style extension, but the fact that the Rams, a seemingly very smart franchise, didn't beat Seattle to the punch in doing one, makes me think they might be hesitating to give him a big long-term deal.

Agreed.