Does Anyone Want to Come Here?

[Major League Ready]

2 hours ago, KirbyDome89 said:

Nothing convenient about it, I quoted and replied to exactly what you said...

You chose to use playoff series wins as your metric for postseason success, and you said Seattle was a terrible example of both spending and winning. Playoff success is too nuanced? Now we're sliding further to regular season records...smh pass.

Zero tears about an inability to spend for these clubs with revenues exceeding $300M and payrolls barely (if even) cracking $100M. Nobody is disputing the importance of drafting or developing. This entire line of conversation started with a post that claimed payroll doesn't matter. It very much does; spending also correlates with winning. 

Actually, I was responding to someone else who used post season success as the bar and suggest it might make sense to also look how teams got to the playoffs in terms of impact from spending / free agents.

[Riverbrian]

4 hours ago, ashbury said:

There are fallacies with going after free-agents and other established players, but the fallacy with relying on youth is the idea that you get "6 years" when you develop from within or trade for MLB-ready players.  You laid out why you lose a couple years at either end.

Agreed... 6 years only happens when you find that rookie of the year guy and extend him. I've been watching the Twins for quite some time and we haven't found that guy. Let's see if Luke Keaschall can be like that or will he go into a Royce Lewis type year long disappointment. 

You might get three decent years and that's OK.

The train just needs to be kept a rollin all night long... With a heave and Ho. 

We need to be clever with extensions, we need to be proactive and move players approaching free agency for more coal for the train. 

Most importantly... they just got to keep em coming.  

Nothing needs to be timed perfectly. Just keep em coming. It will sort itself out. 

Many will say it can't be done. Milwaukee and Cleveland keep em coming.

Then tack on the extra 40 million that Milwaukee and Cleveland won't spend. 

 

  

[DocBauer]

10 hours ago, Riverbrian said:

The only honest answer that Falvey can give is... I don't know. Fans will not tolerate... I don't know... for an answer. Fans will continue tearing him a part. Falvey is therefore put in an impossible position when he is asked the question before he could possibly know the answer.

Let's say he intends on trading Ryan but doesn't get the value he is seeking. Ryan stays and he told everybody including Ryan that he intends on trading him when prematurely asked the question. I see no good coming out of that.

Let's say he intends on keeping Ryan but gets blown away by an offer. Fans will tear him a part for that. 

With that said. 

The Twins need to trade Ryan whose value will not get any higher than it is right now.

You have to trade him this off-season and hopefully acquire a young 1B in return. 

If not... the Twins should spend the off-season converting an OF'er to 1B. I won't offer names for suggestions. 

If not... Go with Julien or Sabato or Fedko or me and live with the results. I'm sick of paying for the same mistake over and over again. 

One year rentals can make sense at times. They no longer make sense when we are in the 7th year of plug and play. 

They no longer make sense when Ty France is not only rostered but playing EVERY DAY!.

Whey Ty France is playing every day after he signed for a million bucks non-guaranteed because nobody else wanted to pay him 1.5 million. You are no longer eating nutritious meals. You are drinking Soda to stay alive because nothing is coming out of the tap.

You are not going to win drinking Mountain Dew instead of water. 

DIG A DAMN WELL. 

 

LOVE to see you at 1B for 2026. 😝

We are almost always on the same boat, floating down the same river, peering in to the future success of the Twins with a deep sigh of contentment. 

😝

The fact that Falvey, with all his smarts, can't work within his own system to find the next Morneau, or close to him, is complete incompetence IMO. I'm beginning to think the light is growing from DIM to brighter is starting to take place. But my goodness, do we need a genie ramp to rub to figure this out? 

It's the ONE SPOT where you just need a DECENT glove with a high quality BAT to improve the depth and quality of the lineup. A GOOD GLOVE is a major bonus for sure.

If I'm not mistaken, Mientkiewicz wasn't a 1B when drafted. At least not exclusively. Morneau was actually a catcher when drafted. But Falvey, despite his intellect, can't seem to see the value of a quality, productive 1B within the confines of the system?

That actually blows my mind. 

It's too late for Wallner, and Larnach, who is probably gone anyway. And maybe they weren't good choices to begin with. So now Mendez might be moving to 1B. But he's not playing there in the AFL so far. Fedko has SOME experience at 1B. So does Roden. How about converting Rosario to 1B at this point? Amick shouldn't be the ONLY option.

Imagination vs desperation has made Arraez a 1B. It also made Solano a 1B. And on their own, they did OK with their brief appearances there. But imagination vs desperation should start to end in 2027.

Yes, I said 2027. Sometimes change doesn't happen overnight. Like you, I'm tired of 1yr rentals for a position that should easily be handled internally. 

But I'm OK for one more year until Falvey pulls his head out of his bunghole to FIX 1B internally. 

 

 

[bean5302]

On 11/2/2025 at 3:42 PM, KirbyDome89 said:

This franchise had a generational talent at C, a future MVP at 1B, and a perennial CYA candidate heading the rotation in the mid 2000s. They were starting Phil Nevin, Jason Tyner, Nick Punto, and Rondell White in postseason games. Payroll didn't budge. It stayed stagnant again after they finally clawed out of all the losing in 2019. When have the Pohlads ever doubled down? 

They haven't. That was my point I didn't apparently connect well enough. 

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Of course, ownership has also made lousy decisions on when to spend like the big cut after 2023.

It's one of the biggest complaints I have with the Pohlads as owners. They lie and say "The goal is to win a championship!" when in reality the goal from this group has always been "We want to be competitive" like they were running a hotel chain.

[bean5302]

19 hours ago, DJL44 said:

An article on contract extension candidates for the Twins would be interesting. Here's my list of potential extension candidates

Ryan Jeffers

Simeon Woods Richardson

Taj Bradley

Royce Lewis

Luke Keaschall

Walker Jenkins

 

Jeffers - Yes

SWR - No, he's a reliever

Bradley - Maybe?

Lewis - Would never agree at a price point which would make sense (I hope).

Keaschall - Too early IMHO. The upside is there and the Twins will have to pay for it, but there's a solid chance he turns into a pumpkin, too.

Jenkins - Yes, at the right price.

[Riverbrian]

16 hours ago, DocBauer said:

LOVE to see you at 1B for 2026. 😝

We are almost always on the same boat, floating down the same river, peering in to the future success of the Twins with a deep sigh of contentment. 

😝

The fact that Falvey, with all his smarts, can't work within his own system to find the next Morneau, or close to him, is complete incompetence IMO. I'm beginning to think the light is growing from DIM to brighter is starting to take place. But my goodness, do we need a genie ramp to rub to figure this out? 

It's the ONE SPOT where you just need a DECENT glove with a high quality BAT to improve the depth and quality of the lineup. A GOOD GLOVE is a major bonus for sure.

If I'm not mistaken, Mientkiewicz wasn't a 1B when drafted. At least not exclusively. Morneau was actually a catcher when drafted. But Falvey, despite his intellect, can't seem to see the value of a quality, productive 1B within the confines of the system?

That actually blows my mind. 

It's too late for Wallner, and Larnach, who is probably gone anyway. And maybe they weren't good choices to begin with. So now Mendez might be moving to 1B. But he's not playing there in the AFL so far. Fedko has SOME experience at 1B. So does Roden. How about converting Rosario to 1B at this point? Amick shouldn't be the ONLY option.

Imagination vs desperation has made Arraez a 1B. It also made Solano a 1B. And on their own, they did OK with their brief appearances there. But imagination vs desperation should start to end in 2027.

Yes, I said 2027. Sometimes change doesn't happen overnight. Like you, I'm tired of 1yr rentals for a position that should easily be handled internally. 

But I'm OK for one more year until Falvey pulls his head out of his bunghole to FIX 1B internally. 

 

 

Agreed... Just not OK with it for one more year.

Sometimes you just got to go cold turkey. Trade for that young 1B to stop the merry go round. Ryan and Jeffers are the trade chips.

If they can't trade for this 1B... then they have to convert one of the outfielders... don't know who but it wouldn't be the first time an OF was converted to 1B.

Someone standing at the major league door. Go get me Kurtz and I'm good. LOL.   

 

[KirbyDome89]

On 11/3/2025 at 3:09 PM, Major League Ready said:

Actually, I was responding to someone else who used post season success as the bar and suggest it might make sense to also look how teams got to the playoffs in terms of impact from spending / free agents.

Yes, and you were fine with that metric as long as it pertained to Seattle. Like I said, as soon as Cleveland, Milwaukee, and TB entered the convo the bar dropped.

[Major League Ready]

1 hour ago, KirbyDome89 said:

Yes, and you were fine with that metric as long as it pertained to Seattle. Like I said, as soon as Cleveland, Milwaukee, and TB entered the convo the bar dropped.

You are framing it to please yourself.  I said no teams outside the top revenue teams have had sustained success as that poster had used as a measure.  I simply stated that it probably makes sense to look at a metric that had enough data points to draw a conclusion.  Therefore, perhaps it made sense to look at teams that had made the playoffs.  If you think we should view it through a lens of a metric that is not achieved by any team in the bottom half of revenue, knock yourself out.