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9 hours ago, big dog said:

What have we learned about Adam’s? 

Enough. I’ve learned enough. 

We can say the same for Julien & Gasper, yet they still give them every opportunity to show us they don't belong here. While McCuskers was sent down w/o hardly a look. Why was (RH) McCusker sent down when Twins were facing a LHP? They had 3 LH hitters, Clemens, Julien & Fitzgerald in the lineup to face LHP Rodon. 

There are many things I don't like about how the Twins operate. Probably what gets me the most is when they overplay their loser favorites while they don't give other promising players a legit opportunity to prove themselves.

Posted (edited)
40 minutes ago, rv78 said:

Say what you want about the current roster. They can't hit and they can't pitch. But even if they would have had the roster they had before the deadline sell-off they still would have lost. I tuned in to watch a couple innings and twice the camera man showed the players in the Yankee dugout looking out onto the field at the Twins and they were smiling and laughing. Watching the Twins try to compete was comical to them. They know this organization is a joke. You have owners who don't give a rats a$$, A Front Office that brings in guys like Gasper, Bride, Clemens, Hatch, Wentz, Kriske, and a Manager that doesn't even know how to set a lineup and play his best players regularly. 

The former roster deserved to be blown-up. Now lets get rid of the Owners, Front Office, Manager and Coaches so we don't have to continue to throw-up when we watch 'em.

The entirety of the roster wasn't that far from contending for a  playoff spot and even the AL Central. Had the starting rotation and a quality BP.

The issue was the lineup. A lineup that couldn't make contact, run bases or field the ball. Then throw in a manager that just made things worse.

There were select trades that needed to be made at the deadline. Those trades should have focused getting 8 guys on the field that understand fundamental and situational baseball. Speed, contact, defense and a manager that knows how to use them (and how to handle the starters and BP).

As of today there are so many areas of needs it could be years of watching games like last night more times than not.

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Awful game by the Twins. might not have gotten shutout, somehow...but might have been the worst loss of the season. Absolutely dreadful. 11 free passes from Adams and Hatch? That's horrific. 

1 hit? That's all we got, 1 goddamn hit? 

I'm glad I had plans and missed this abomination. Rotten performance against the team I hate the most. Hells, bells it wasn't even over quickly with all those walks (2:52? Ew.)

Hope the guys can throw it away and not completely suck in the last game of the series. 

Posted
18 minutes ago, hitterscount said:

Those trades should have focused getting 8 guys on the field that understand fundamental and situational baseball. Speed, contact, defense and a manager that knows how to use them (and how to handle the starters and BP).

You are absolutely correct about this.  But why would you expect the front office to all of a sudden change their MO.  They have a roster of station to station players and they allow the manager to manage the team in a way that the players self police themselves on game preparation.

This is why I want new ownership, an honest and objective analysis needs to be done of the organization  top to bottom.  And this current front office will not do it, they just keep doubling down on the same failed practices and strategies.

Posted

Yanks started Aug. by being swept by MIA & lost every series since. They are reeling & panicking until now when facing the Twinkies (I hate that name). Now they are saying whew! good we are facing the Twins & they'll laydown & let us walk all over them so we can reset. !!!!!!!!!!!!

Do the Twins care? NO!!! I don't care if we lose every series until the end if we win our series with NYY. This series is significant because if we win it, it'd give us some dignity. It's worth Baldelli preparing a rotation & lineup that's competitive. It's worthy for Baldelli put together a credible game plan, finally getting fired up & motivate his players. It's significant because we can be the ones help to spoil NYY's chances to make the playoffs & rub their noses in it & break this stupid curse. We had nothing to lose to throw everything at them. Putting together a make shift rotation, lineup, defense & no evident game plan made me sick.

Yet I stayed up to follow the game. The Twins started out on a positive note. Martin got a hit, stole 2B, distrated Rodon, the basees were load before we knew it, with nobody out. We had the frantic Yanks on the ropes. A perfect opportunity to blow the game wide open, have Rodon rack up pitches for an early exit & send the Yanks further down spiraling. The other precending teams took advantage of the vunerable Yanks. but the Twins were flat thanks to Baldelli. Twins were able scrap a run across thanks to Lewis's hustle to 1B on a possible DP. They did force Rodon to throw 31 pitches in the 1st inning but Rodon only needed 39 pitches to get through the next 4. I went to bed.

 

  

Posted
7 hours ago, glunn said:

I am no longer watching any games -- it's not fun seeing this team play and how they are being managed.

Maybe there is a chance that Ryan can spark a win tomorrow, but overall the future seems bleak.

 

Re-tooling had to happen.  Should have started last year with firing Rocco before this year started.

Posted
2 hours ago, TwinsDr2021 said:

He is 27 and has a .796 OPS in AAA. No speed and limited defense. 

His OPS is lower than Martin, Fitzgerald, Erod, Cardenas, Keirsey, Julien, Gasper.

In other words he is a non-prospect (Like the whole Bullpen, so.....)

 

I hate to quibble (really, I love to quibble), but:

Fitzgerald is 31, Gasper 29, Keirsey 28, Julien, Martin 26.  (ERod 22, Cardenas 25)

We've seen Keirsey and Julien at the big league level (Hitting?? Competitive??), Gasper as well.  Fitzgerald is in his "20 game" try-out. 

Martin seems like a keeper. Why haven't we seen Cardenas and ERod (I know, Injury).

 

McCusker strikes out a bit more, but hits Home Runs way more (RBIs).   His OPS was a lot higher earlier in the year.  Seems like his "call up" kind of messed with his confidence.  Why not try to get 5 years of the guy?

I'm probably wrong, but this team needs a spark.......

Posted
13 hours ago, thelanges5 said:

Gleeman:

Twins are now 44-125 (.260) vs. the Yankees since 2002, including 9 straight losses.

Twins' winning percentage is .514 vs. all other teams since 2002.

All three Twins managers since 2002 have a sub-.270 winning% vs. the Yankees.

.269 — Ron Gardenhire
.259 — Paul Molitor
.237 — Rocco Baldelli

The Gardenhire curse, AND a Gardenhire manages the Saints - we are doomed, doomed I say.

Posted
21 minutes ago, PatG said:

I hate to quibble (really, I love to quibble), but:

Fitzgerald is 31, Gasper 29, Keirsey 28, Julien, Martin 26.  (ERod 22, Cardenas 25)

We've seen Keirsey and Julien at the big league level (Hitting?? Competitive??), Gasper as well.  Fitzgerald is in his "20 game" try-out. 

Martin seems like a keeper. Why haven't we seen Cardenas and ERod (I know, Injury).

 

McCusker strikes out a bit more, but hits Home Runs way more (RBIs).   His OPS was a lot higher earlier in the year.  Seems like his "call up" kind of messed with his confidence.  Why not try to get 5 years of the guy?

I'm probably wrong, but this team needs a spark.......

I don't think Martin is a keeper, he's a terrible defender in the outfield and is essentially a DH who can hit .260 promised of mostly singles. Maybe he can get his walk rate close to what he did in the minors, but he's a sub-replacement level player as of now.

This is the Nick Gordon situation again, a highly drafted 1st rounder who has no defensive home and didn't hit well enough in the minors to indicate that they could be more than a bench bat. 

Posted
1 hour ago, Doctor Gast said:

Yanks started Aug. by being swept by MIA & lost every series since. They are reeling & panicking until now when facing the Twinkies (I hate that name). Now they are saying whew! good we are facing the Twins & they'll laydown & let us walk all over them so we can reset. !!!!!!!!!!!!

Do the Twins care? NO!!! I don't care if we lose every series until the end if we win our series with NYY. This series is significant because if we win it, it'd give us some dignity. It's worth Baldelli preparing a rotation & lineup that's competitive. It's worthy for Baldelli put together a credible game plan, finally getting fired up & motivate his players. It's significant because we can be the ones help to spoil NYY's chances to make the playoffs & rub their noses in it & break this stupid curse. We had nothing to lose to throw everything at them. Putting together a make shift rotation, lineup, defense & no evident game plan made me sick.

Yet I stayed up to follow the game. The Twins started out on a positive note. Martin got a hit, stole 2B, distrated Rodon, the basees were load before we knew it, with nobody out. We had the frantic Yanks on the ropes. A perfect opportunity to blow the game wide open, have Rodon rack up pitches for an early exit & send the Yanks further down spiraling. The other precending teams took advantage of the vunerable Yanks. but the Twins were flat thanks to Baldelli. Twins were able scrap a run across thanks to Lewis's hustle to 1B on a possible DP. They did force Rodon to throw 31 pitches in the 1st inning but Rodon only needed 39 pitches to get through the next 4. I went to bed.

 

  

But, but, its Gasper's fault , SO many here continually babble ITS GASPER'S fault.

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