Twins 4, Mets 3: Aggression at Bat and on the Bases Give Twins Their First Walk-Off Win

[Sjoski]

20 hours ago, Sjoski said:

Why even have replay?

Here's what conclusive. 

 

A blown call in the bottom of the 6th decided this game. Not the pitcher who induced the ground ball. Not the infielder who made an incredible play to throw out the runner. But a flawed umpire. 

He decides the game. 

 

It’s insane that MLB lets one challenge dictate access to truth in the age of hi-def, multi-angle replay. Like—“Sorry, we have the footage that proves your case, but... you already used your coupon. Better luck next scandal.”

 

If it weren’t for this nonsense, the Mets walk out with a 3-2 win, a 12-6 record, and the Twins witness another well deserved bullpen meltdown. . But instead, everyone pretends the system “worked.”

Come October, it'll be Dodgers vs. Mets To decide who gets to destroys the AL that the umpires decide should be there.

Replay should fix obvious mistakes, not create new ones.

[Sjoski]

4 hours ago, JD-TWINS said:

Not sure why there is any complaining from our side in a win? Maybe I don’t get the conversation ?

Every one here is a Twins fan first?

 

Here's what conclusive...the Mets were robbed of a win.

 

A blown call in the bottom of the 6th decided this game. Not the pitcher who induced the ground ball. Not the infielder who made an incredible play to throw out the runner. But a flawed umpire. 

He decides the game. 

It’s insane that MLB lets one challenge dictate access to truth in the age of hi-def, multi-angle replay. Like—“Sorry, we have the footage that proves your case, but... you already used your coupon. Better luck next scandal.”

If it weren’t for this nonsense, the Mets walk out with a 3-2 win, a 12-6 record, and the Twins witness another well deserved bullpen meltdown. . But instead, everyone pretends the system “worked.”

Come October, it'll be Dodgers vs. Mets To decide who gets to destroys the AL that the umpires decide should be there.

Replay should fix obvious mistakes, not create new ones.

[Sjoski]

17 hours ago, AceWrigley said:

Clearly out.

Here's what was clearly out...that the Mets were robbed of a win.

A blown call in the bottom of the 6th decided this game. Not the pitcher who induced the ground ball. Not the infielder who made an incredible play to throw out the runner. But a flawed umpire. 

He decides the game. 

It’s insane that MLB lets one challenge dictate access to truth in the age of hi-def, multi-angle replay. Like—“Sorry, we have the footage that proves your case, but... you already used your coupon. Better luck next scandal.”

 

If it weren’t for this nonsense, the Mets walk out with a 3-2 win, a 12-6 record, and the Twins witness another well deserved bullpen meltdown. . But instead, everyone pretends the system “worked.”

 

Come October, it'll be Dodgers vs. Mets To decide who gets to destroys the AL that the umpires decide should be there.

 

Replay should fix obvious mistakes, not create new ones.

[jorgenswest]

I don’t think I have ever griped about the Twins not having a second replay and it costing them the game. I am sure that they have been on the other side in the past. The last thing I would want is more replay. Give a manager a second replay and there will be more frivolous first replays. That will be followed by a cry for a third replay when the two are used up. One is enough.

I would hope the takeaways for both teams would be…

• Be judicious about using a replay early in the game. You need to be absolutely certain of a reversal or the win expectancy change in turning it around is very significant. If not trust your team to get out of the situation.
• Keep playing baseball in the face of a bad call. The play was not over at the moment of that bad call. In this case be aware and throw the guy out at home.

 

[Sjoski]

8 hours ago, JD-TWINS said:

Not sure why there is any complaining from our side in a win? Maybe I don’t get the conversation ?

Every one here is a Twins fan first?

 

Here's what conclusive...the Mets were robbed of a win.

 

A blown call in the bottom of the 6th decided this game. Not the pitcher who induced the ground ball. Not the infielder who made an incredible play to throw out the runner. But a flawed umpire. 

He decides the game. 

It’s insane that MLB lets one challenge dictate access to truth in the age of hi-def, multi-angle replay. Like—“Sorry, we have the footage that proves your case, but... you already used your coupon. Better luck next scandal.”

If it weren’t for this nonsense, the Mets walk out with a 3-2 win, a 12-6 record, and the Twins witness another well deserved bullpen meltdown. . But instead, everyone pretends the system “worked.”

Come October, it'll be Dodgers vs. Mets To decide who gets to destroys the AL that the umpires decide should be there.

Replay should fix obvious mistakes, not create new ones.

[Sjoski]

Less replay is the goal, agreed.

I agree. Bader was out a second without doubt. Original question was a Red Herring...a set up to make a point.

 Despite modern day technology....they, MLB, still got the game wrong.

Twins did not earn a win yesterday,  it was a gift. 

Anyone who disagrees with that is deluded. 

 

[Mike Sixel]

2 minutes ago, Sjoski said:

Less replay is the goal, agreed.

I agree. Bader was out a second without doubt. Original question was a Red Herring...a set up to make a point.

 Despite modern day technology....they, MLB, still got the game wrong.

Twins did not earn a win yesterday,  it was a gift. 

Anyone who disagrees with that is deluded. 

 

Blown calls happen all the time. The home umpire was not good.... And those mattered also. 

[NYCTK]

14 hours ago, Mike Sixel said:

Blown calls happen all the time. The home umpire was not good.... And those mattered also. 

Yep. He blew calls that favored the Mets by about a run. Baseball Gods trying to make sure there was some balance with the Wendelstedt error. 

[AceWrigley]

17 hours ago, Sjoski said:

Less replay is the goal, agreed.

I agree. Bader was out a second without doubt. Original question was a Red Herring...a set up to make a point.

 Despite modern day technology....they, MLB, still got the game wrong.

Twins did not earn a win yesterday,  it was a gift. 

Anyone who disagrees with that is deluded. 

 

I don't agree. The umpires are final arbiters on all plays. If the ump says your out, your out, and that includes replay umpiring and whether they are correct or not. The rules are the rules and your replay opportunities are governed by them. Bad call? Ok. Move on, there's still more baseball to play.