Has Waiting Out the Market Every Winter Been Successful for the Twins?

[bean5302]

7 hours ago, Major League Ready said:

They don't have much to spend because they signed Correa, Lopez, and Buxton in previous years.  Would you prefer they had not signed them?  We also had quite a bit in arbitration increases.   

The Twins are spending $84M this year on players that were extended or signed as free agents.  Also, TV revenue went down by $20M compared to the years they had higher payroll.  We could say it's Falvey's fault for signing Correa but it sure seems like most people here were very much in favor of that signing and the idea of trading him this off-season to make payroll room was very unpopular.   

I'm not the one complaining about it. You've missed the mark on my posts again.

[Major League Ready]

44 minutes ago, bean5302 said:

I'm not the one complaining about it. You've missed the mark on my posts again.

I saw that you were responding to someone and added some detail.

[Trilla]

Here's the thing...the bullpen isn't terrible, but they are one sore arm away from being a disaster. As is the rotation and the outfield. They haven't done anything to address the depth or upgrade the quality. If I'm selling the team why the hell do I care what the damn payroll budget is. Falvey is either lying, is lazy, or is just plain stupid. I wish he would just GTFO of town. The new owners are going to fire him anyway. He treats the fans like we are stupid...but we know what's up 

[TopGunn#22]

This was a good article because it highlighted something that I believe has always frustrated the majority of us Twins fans posting here.  I have nothing against being "patient" "prudent" or "thrifty."  What DOES frustrate me is any lack of urgency or identification of a specific player who could help the Twins and the will to go after that player.  

Without fail, we get statements of "we've had some discussions" or "there is interest there" only to never hear a solitary word later about said player.

I know the Baseball Players Union will never accept a salary cap, but they actually have, in a fashion, due to the luxury tax.  One thing a hard cap does establish is the ability of any team in pro football to have a specific amount of money they can and will spend on their roster.  For example, the Vikings have a need in the interior offensive line and at CB.  They will address those needs in some way through free agency.  

It is the hope from every one of us that with new ownership, there will finally come a time where a player in FA will be identified and pursued by the Twins.

There are some thrifty moves that can pay nice dividends by signing a player at a slight discount late in the process.  But there are times that a player should be identified early, and if necessary paid slightly more if what he brings to the team truly shores up a weak position or rotation spot.  

Under the Pohlad regime, it's almost as if our FO felt they could skip the first 30-minutes of class and still get a C- and pass the class.  I'd like them to show up early for class and go for an "A" or at least a solid "B."  I've just never been a fan of the passive attitude the Twins under the Pohlad family took toward building their roster.  Be smart.  Be wise.  But don't be PASSIVE.  Don't relegate yourselves to "Dumpster Diving."  

[Trilla]

On 1/31/2025 at 10:23 AM, TwinsDr2021 said:

Maybe it is the FO fault, because the haven't been very good at developing starting players? I am not defending the owners in any way but it might be easier to spend money if the cheap guys (drafted/traded) where better? (There have been a few, Duran, Jax, Ryan, Jeffers? and Ober) but everybody is still kind of waiting on what is Lewis, Larnach, Wallner, Martin, Julien, Miranda, Lee, Festa, Matthews, and on and on.

Last year the Twins could have cut/saved over 16 million simply by not picking up Polanco and Farmer. Told Larnach or Wallner (I would have preferred Larnach) to get a first basemen glove and that they were going to platoon with Miranda until one proved better. Started the season with the starters being Wallner/Buxton/Kepler/Lewis/CC/Julien/Jeffers/Wallner/AK(DH)

Bench - Martin/Castro/Vazquez/Miranda,

Used some of the 16 million to improve the offense before the season or the money at the trade deadline.

Instead they spent the money on Santana, Topa, Margot, and DeSclafani.

Lets praise this FO for being creative shall we.

I would not praise Falvey for one solitary thing

[Blyleven2011]

4 hours ago, TopGunn#22 said:

This was a good article because it highlighted something that I believe has always frustrated the majority of us Twins fans posting here.  I have nothing against being "patient" "prudent" or "thrifty."  What DOES frustrate me is any lack of urgency or identification of a specific player who could help the Twins and the will to go after that player.  

Without fail, we get statements of "we've had some discussions" or "there is interest there" only to never hear a solitary word later about said player.

I know the Baseball Players Union will never accept a salary cap, but they actually have, in a fashion, due to the luxury tax.  One thing a hard cap does establish is the ability of any team in pro football to have a specific amount of money they can and will spend on their roster.  For example, the Vikings have a need in the interior offensive line and at CB.  They will address those needs in some way through free agency.  

It is the hope from every one of us that with new ownership, there will finally come a time where a player in FA will be identified and pursued by the Twins.

There are some thrifty moves that can pay nice dividends by signing a player at a slight discount late in the process.  But there are times that a player should be identified early, and if necessary paid slightly more if what he brings to the team truly shores up a weak position or rotation spot.  

Under the Pohlad regime, it's almost as if our FO felt they could skip the first 30-minutes of class and still get a C- and pass the class.  I'd like them to show up early for class and go for an "A" or at least a solid "B."  I've just never been a fan of the passive attitude the Twins under the Pohlad family took toward building their roster.  Be smart.  Be wise.  But don't be PASSIVE.  Don't relegate yourselves to "Dumpster Diving."  

I appreciate your post  , be smart , be wise ...

I'm not sure if i should be happy or sad ...

8 years of this current  FO  and what do they really have to show for it , 3 playoff wins in 2023 ....

Thaaaaaats all folks