Week 8 Games

[Aggies7]

39 minutes ago, Vanimal46 said:

This is also incredible. Peak Gen Z mindset. 

Coming soon to the NFL: load management 😂

[Aggies7]

Safe to say Dallas will not finish ahead of the Vikings 

[gunnarthor]

2 hours ago, Vanimal46 said:

This is also incredible. Peak Gen Z mindset. 

Honestly, I think it's the right thing. If he's not right, it's better that he takes himself out until he's good. Too many athletes play through something. 

Now, if he's gassed because he went to bed at 5am, that's another thing. But if he was dinged up from some hits and needed time, I'm ok with it. We know nfl trainers don't care. 

[Aggies7]

8 hours ago, gunnarthor said:

Honestly, I think it's the right thing. If he's not right, it's better that he takes himself out until he's good. Too many athletes play through something. 

Now, if he's gassed because he went to bed at 5am, that's another thing. But if he was dinged up from some hits and needed time, I'm ok with it. We know nfl trainers don't care. 

Trainers care, it’s usually the coaches who don’t. His teammates were probably tired too. Never heard an NFL player say that. He should have just lied and said he felt wobbly 

[Vanimal46]

9 minutes ago, Aggies7 said:

Trainers care, it’s usually the coaches who don’t. His teammates were probably tired too. Never heard an NFL player say that. He should have just lied and said he felt wobbly 

He should have said anything else… Instead he informed the league I don’t have what it takes to be the face of your billion dollar franchise. 

[nicksaviking]

1 hour ago, Vanimal46 said:

He should have said anything else… Instead he informed the league I don’t have what it takes to be the face of your billion dollar franchise. 

Right, initially I thought I heard he came out for a play as he had the wind knocked out of him. Why not stick with that? So dumb.

I mean, if he doesn't care what a bunch of fat, middle aged men sitting on their couches think about that, more power to him. But maybe should be concerned about what the teammates think and maybe even more importantly, you probably don't want to let the upcoming opponents know they can take you out of the game by getting him too tired.

[Vanimal46]

29 minutes ago, nicksaviking said:

Right, initially I thought I heard he came out for a play as he had the wind knocked out of him. Why not stick with that? So dumb.

I mean, if he doesn't care what a bunch of fat, middle aged men sitting on their couches think about that, more power to him. But maybe should be concerned about what the teammates think and maybe even more importantly, you probably don't want to let the upcoming opponents know they can take you out of the game by getting him too tired.

His comment probably lost half the locker room at least. Does he think his OL isn’t tired on the field? 

[nicksaviking]

3 hours ago, Vanimal46 said:

His comment probably lost half the locker room at least. Does he think his OL isn’t tired on the field? 

To be fair, just about every other position does come out for a breather from time to time; OL and QB seem to be the only exceptions.

But of all the QBs in the league, he's probably the last guy who should be expecting his exception to that exception to go over well.

[Mike Sixel]

It's a bad look for sure. I'm not sure it's a bad idea if he feels he can't play, but I'm also not sure it's a good idea. 

[gunnarthor]

4 hours ago, Aggies7 said:

Trainers care, it’s usually the coaches who don’t. His teammates were probably tired too. Never heard an NFL player say that. He should have just lied and said he felt wobbly 

Anyone have the picture of the trainer giving Allen smelling salts?

I agree with the general premise that Richardson shouldn't have said what he said but I'm also not going to overly think it. It was one play. https://www.stampedeblue.com/2024/10/28/24281862/much-ado-is-being-made-about-nothing-regarding-anthony-richardsons-requested-breather

[Mike Sixel]

One play? Then I have zero issue. WRs come out as do RBs all the time for one play to catch their breath. All. The. Time.

[Vanimal46]

28 minutes ago, Mike Sixel said:

One play? Then I have zero issue. WRs come out as do RBs all the time for one play to catch their breath. All. The. Time.

QBs don’t. And it was 3rd and goal that he skipped out on. Lamar Jackson is out breaking rushing records and doesn’t take plays off. 

[nicksaviking]

https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/shane-steichen-on-anthony-richardson-starting-this-week-were-evaluating-everything

Well here we go. Of course this happens against the Vikings. Now they'll have to draw up and practice two completely different game plans for two completely different QBs.

I know it's not like they're stuck scheming for either Joe Montana or Steve Young, but still. Last week Kupp and Nacua surprisingly suit up, London three weeks ago and Love comes back early and plays four weeks ago. The Vikings sure seem to be running a gauntlet of atypical and unexpected game planning.

[Mike Sixel]

34 minutes ago, Vanimal46 said:

QBs don’t. And it was 3rd and goal that he skipped out on. Lamar Jackson is out breaking rushing records and doesn’t take plays off. 

3rd and goal? I change my mind again. You can't come out there.

[Vanimal46]

17 minutes ago, nicksaviking said:

https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/shane-steichen-on-anthony-richardson-starting-this-week-were-evaluating-everything

Well here we go. Of course this happens against the Vikings. Now they'll have to draw up and practice two completely different game plans for two completely different QBs.

I know it's not like they're stuck scheming for either Joe Montana or Steve Young, but still. Last week Kupp and Nacua surprisingly suit up, London three weeks ago and Love comes back early and plays four weeks ago. The Vikings sure seem to be running a gauntlet of atypical and unexpected game planning.

Prime time game with the Vikes heavily favored against a backup QB. We’ve seen this episode before…

[gunnarthor]

12 minutes ago, Mike Sixel said:

3rd and goal? I change my mind again. You can't come out there.

3rd and goal from the 22. 

[Mike Sixel]

12 minutes ago, gunnarthor said:

3rd and goal from the 22. 

still, one more play......

[nicksaviking]

1 hour ago, Vanimal46 said:

Prime time game with the Vikes heavily favored against a backup QB. We’ve seen this episode before…

I'd much rather face Richardson than Flacco (I can't imagine typing that a year ago) so they better plan accordingly for more wily veteran quick throws. Jonathan Taylor and Josh Downs specialize at those.

[nicksaviking]

1 hour ago, Mike Sixel said:

still, one more play......

This conversation is tiring, I'm sitting the rest of this out......

[gunnarthor]

5 minutes ago, nicksaviking said:

I'd much rather face Richardson than Flacco (I can't imagine typing that a year ago) so they better plan accordingly for more wily veteran quick throws. Jonathan Taylor and Josh Downs specialize at those.

Ignoring the QB, Indy's defense isn't that good. Could be a nice time to iron out some of our offensive issues.

[Vanimal46]

44 minutes ago, nicksaviking said:

I'd much rather face Richardson than Flacco (I can't imagine typing that a year ago) so they better plan accordingly for more wily veteran quick throws. Jonathan Taylor and Josh Downs specialize at those.

Agreed. We are pretty good at limiting the mobile QBs. For some reason old wily veterans know how to carve us up. 

[nicksaviking]

1 hour ago, Vanimal46 said:

Agreed. We are pretty good at limiting the mobile QBs. For some reason old wily veterans know how to carve us up. 

Getting Cashman back should help a ton. The quick hit passes often fall in him to defend. Hopefully it will free up Grenard and Van Ginkle to get after the QB again too.

[Hosken Bombo Disco]

Heh, I didnt even hear about the Anthony Richardson thing until getting caught up on this thread. 

Anthony Richardson can thank Tyrique Stevenson for hot dogging that hail mary, which took up all the social media oxygen, at least that I saw. 

[Cap'n Piranha]

On 10/27/2024 at 10:00 PM, gunnarthor said:

Honestly, I think it's the right thing. If he's not right, it's better that he takes himself out until he's good. Too many athletes play through something. 

Now, if he's gassed because he went to bed at 5am, that's another thing. But if he was dinged up from some hits and needed time, I'm ok with it. We know nfl trainers don't care. 

He didn't say he wasn't right, he said he was tired.  It would seem odd for him to say he's tired if in reality, he's hurt.

[Cap'n Piranha]

On 10/28/2024 at 9:28 AM, nicksaviking said:

To be fair, just about every other position does come out for a breather from time to time; OL and QB seem to be the only exceptions.

But of all the QBs in the league, he's probably the last guy who should be expecting his exception to that exception to go over well.

Without trying to parse GPS stats by position, I would guess that QB and OL are the two position groups that run the smallest distance in a game, and I'd guess it's not particularly close.  I would also guess they are the two positions groups involved in the fewest full-speed collisions.