Week 6 Games

[Aggies7]

The MNF game is one of the most poorly officiated games I can remember ever seeing. Over 200 yards of accepted penalties. Pretty much a flag every play.

[cHawk]

How bout dem Cowboys? Zimmer’s defense is horrific (to be fair, they are without Micah and Demarcus Lawrence)

[nicksaviking]

11 hours ago, Aggies7 said:

The MNF game is one of the most poorly officiated games I can remember ever seeing. Over 200 yards of accepted penalties. Pretty much a flag every play.

That was an extremely annoying and terrible game to watch with all those penalties.

But to be fair, outside of a roughing the passer flag or two, most of them seemed legit. The DBs were constantly mugging the WRs and both teams OLs and DLs seemed more concerned with looking like the biggest Alpha on the field than they did with actually winning the game.

[Vanimal46]

Aaron Rodgers gets his way once again and the Jets trade for his old buddy Davante Adams 

[Mike Sixel]

12 hours ago, Aggies7 said:

The MNF game is one of the most poorly officiated games I can remember ever seeing. Over 200 yards of accepted penalties. Pretty much a flag every play.

Except those are legit penalties. That changed the play often. 

[nicksaviking]

46 minutes ago, Vanimal46 said:

Aaron Rodgers gets his way once again and the Jets trade for his old buddy Davante Adams 

Can't wait for Garrett Wilson to demand a trade now!

It's like the Jets were tired of hearing how much of a train wreck the Panthers, Giants, Browns and Raiders were and said, "Hey, you want dysfunction, watch this!"

[gunnarthor]

55 minutes ago, Vanimal46 said:

Aaron Rodgers gets his way once again and the Jets trade for his old buddy Davante Adams 

A third that could be a second but probably not. Not a horrible trade for a team that thinks it's in a "win-now" situation. Not likely to help much, though. Buffalo is clearly better and they aren't going to win a bunch of road playoff games - if they can even make the playoffs.

[Mike Sixel]

18 minutes ago, gunnarthor said:

A third that could be a second but probably not. Not a horrible trade for a team that thinks it's in a "win-now" situation. Not likely to help much, though. Buffalo is clearly better and they aren't going to win a bunch of road playoff games - if they can even make the playoffs.

It's a fair trade, but they were lucky to even be in that game last night. 

[nicksaviking]

I like how Rodgers throws Mike Williams under the bus and then they immediately trade for another one of Rodger's buddies.

[Vanimal46]

46 minutes ago, nicksaviking said:

Can't wait for Garrett Wilson to demand a trade now!

It's like the Jets were tired of hearing how much of a train wreck the Panthers, Giants, Browns and Raiders were and said, "Hey, you want dysfunction, watch this!"

All of those teams have something in common… Rotten ownership group that meddles in QB/front office decisions. It really makes me thankful that the Wilfs provide the cash and stay the hell out of the way the rest of the time. 

[Vanimal46]

12 minutes ago, nicksaviking said:

I like how Rodgers throws Mike Williams under the bus and then they immediately trade for another one of Rodger's buddies.

It was a clearly under thrown pass too. Nothing is ever Aaron Rodgers’ fault. 

[Mike Sixel]

4 minutes ago, Vanimal46 said:

It was a clearly under thrown pass too. Nothing is ever Aaron Rodgers’ fault. 

Agreed. 

[gunnarthor]

Cooper to the Bills. Bills haven't looked great the last few weeks but this probably helps them more than Adams to the Jets. 

[TheLeviathan]

That Davante Adams contract is pretty ugly unless they cut him this year.  In which case they gave up a 3rd round pick on a lost cause.

[Vanimal46]

Miraculously, Davante Adams’ hamstring injury that kept him out the last 3 games has cleared up just in time for him to practice and play this week

[nicksaviking]

13 minutes ago, Vanimal46 said:

Miraculously, Davante Adams’ hamstring injury that kept him out the last 3 games has cleared up just in time for him to practice and play this week

Can't wait for Rodgers to give Adams his patented 'I'm right, you're wrong' glare the first time Adams runs an out route as scripted but Rodgers thinks he should have read his mind and came back on a curl instead.

[Aggies7]

8 hours ago, nicksaviking said:

That was an extremely annoying and terrible game to watch with all those penalties.

But to be fair, outside of a roughing the passer flag or two, most of them seemed legit. The DBs were constantly mugging the WRs and both teams OLs and DLs seemed more concerned with looking like the biggest Alpha on the field than they did with actually winning the game.

Have to disagree. There was a phantom holding call that cost the jets a TD and another flag on a phantom PI. Both were huge plays. Then you had the play where Rodgers clearly fumbled (tuck rule) and the booth inexplicably stepped in and called it incomplete before the bills could challenge. Someone else got flagged for inappropriately talking to an official? Lol don’t think I’ve ever seen that called.

No one wants to watch a game like last night especially not in prime time 

[Aggies7]

7 hours ago, Mike Sixel said:

Except those are legit penalties. That changed the play often. 

Neither roughing the passer penalties were legit. Neither were some of the PIs. And the holding call that took a score off the board…

[nicksaviking]

1 hour ago, Aggies7 said:

Neither roughing the passer penalties were legit. Neither were some of the PIs. And the holding call that took a score off the board…

I don't like them, but the defender did land on Rodgers with his full weight, and there was another sack in the first half I thought for sure they were going to call but didn't. I mean, the rule was created to protect Aaron Rodgers specifically, they're going to call it if the defenders don't try to avoid it.

Also, if the holding call you're referring to was the one in the 4th quarter when the Jets were inside the five, that wasn't phantom, the Tackle had the defender around the neck, even though the defender had little chance of making the tackle.

And players sassing off to the refs have drawn plenty of flags. The ref said the guy was flagged for saying something 'inappropriate' so what it was specifically can only be speculation, but I have zero sympathy for a grown man who's paid millions of dollars who refuses to bite his tongue.

But really, if the players wanted fewer whistles, they probably shouldn't have made it clear they were more interested in having a back alley brawl than playing a football game. I hate all the flags, but the immaturity of the players was why they kept coming. If the refs let all that stuff go unchecked and it would have been fist fights before half time.

[Vanimal46]

Vikings acquire RB Cam Akers once again. He’s better than Gaskin but that’s about it. 

[Aggies7]

1 hour ago, nicksaviking said:

I don't like them, but the defender did land on Rodgers with his full weight, and there was another sack in the first half I thought for sure they were going to call but didn't. I mean, the rule was created to protect Aaron Rodgers specifically, they're going to call it if the defenders don't try to avoid it.

Also, if the holding call you're referring to was the one in the 4th quarter when the Jets were inside the five, that wasn't phantom, the Tackle had the defender around the neck, even though the defender had little chance of making the tackle.

And players sassing off to the refs have drawn plenty of flags. The ref said the guy was flagged for saying something 'inappropriate' so what it was specifically can only be speculation, but I have zero sympathy for a grown man who's paid millions of dollars who refuses to bite his tongue.

But really, if the players wanted fewer whistles, they probably shouldn't have made it clear they were more interested in having a back alley brawl than playing a football game. I hate all the flags, but the immaturity of the players was why they kept coming. If the refs let all that stuff go unchecked and it would have been fist fights before half time.

The hit on Rodgers wasn’t called because he landed on him, it was called because of “an unnecessary second act”. 

I mean, referees could call penalties on most plays if they wanted. There’s usually someone holding somewhere. And generally they don’t flag penalties that are away from the play.

I didn’t think the game was all that out of control. They are division rivals after all.

[Aggies7]

1 hour ago, Vanimal46 said:

Vikings acquire RB Cam Akers once again. He’s better than Gaskin but that’s about it. 

Wonder what, if anything, this means about Jones

[Vanimal46]

9 minutes ago, Aggies7 said:

Wonder what, if anything, this means about Jones

Probably out this week unfortunately 

[Mike Sixel]

37 minutes ago, Aggies7 said:

Wonder what, if anything, this means about Jones

Can't be good. It also says something about gaskin....

[TheLeviathan]

18 hours ago, Aggies7 said:

The hit on Rodgers wasn’t called because he landed on him, it was called because of “an unnecessary second act”. 

I mean, referees could call penalties on most plays if they wanted. There’s usually someone holding somewhere. And generally they don’t flag penalties that are away from the play.

I didn’t think the game was all that out of control. They are division rivals after all.

I agree with the point about Epenesa - that roughing call was ridiculous.  I don't know how anyone can defend it.

I'm ok with refs throwing as many flags as the play dictates, but if we start calling that kind of a sack "roughing"....we might as well give up on the sport.  (The Kinlaw one was stupid too)

[sampleSizeOfOne]

Sigh...

 

I had hoped i was far enough east they might show a good game over a New York game.

 

Oh well. Gives me a reason to do stuff instead of sit on a couch, so it ain't all bad.

[nicksaviking]

I like the Akers trade regardless of the health of Aaron Jones. He might be an OK at best runner, but he's one of the best pass blocking RBs in the league. As much as I wanted to see Ty Chandler step up and secure the RB job long term after Jones is gone, I haven't seen enough from him this year and he's not good at pass protection, which obviously this offense needs. I could see Akers jumping him on the depth chart for that reason alone.

On a related note; with few draft picks and Jones being on a one year deal, old and oft injured, the Vikings will be in the market for another RB next year. Barf if you want to, but I'm emphatically saying that RB will be Chuba Hubbard. He's still only 25, is one of the league's best pass blockers, among the best at yards after contact and somehow has only been tackled for a loss three times despite teams knowing the Panthers have no passing game.

Won't be sexy, but perhaps a new Chester Taylor or Latavius Murray bridge until they get a long term answer.

[TheLeviathan]

7 hours ago, nicksaviking said:

I like the Akers trade regardless of the health of Aaron Jones. He might be an OK at best runner, but he's one of the best pass blocking RBs in the league. As much as I wanted to see Ty Chandler step up and secure the RB job long term after Jones is gone, I haven't seen enough from him this year and he's not good at pass protection, which obviously this offense needs. I could see Akers jumping him on the depth chart for that reason alone.

On a related note; with few draft picks and Jones being on a one year deal, old and oft injured, the Vikings will be in the market for another RB next year. Barf if you want to, but I'm emphatically saying that RB will be Chuba Hubbard. He's still only 25, is one of the league's best pass blockers, among the best at yards after contact and somehow has only been tackled for a loss three times despite teams knowing the Panthers have no passing game.

Won't be sexy, but perhaps a new Chester Taylor or Latavius Murray bridge until they get a long term answer.

They'll have to since they have no picks basically.

[nicksaviking]

2 hours ago, TheLeviathan said:

They'll have to since they have no picks basically.

For sure. RB is either Chandler, a super late round pick or a free agent. I think Hubbard could be a steal.