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If we are talking potential minor league contract options, I'd prefer Brad Keller, formerly of KC. He is coming off injury, but he is just 28. His stuff was always pretty decent.

Otherwise, a trade for Mitch Keller would be at or near the top of any list I was going to make. 

 

And I THINK Varland is going fully to the pen, which I am also ok with. His stuff REALLY plays up there.

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Given the unknowns about the Twins TV deal I think the chance of one of the “top” (aka expensive) starters landing in MN is zero.  MN has the nation’s fifth highest state tax rate and is the coldest place baseball is played.  Local fans often try to discount these factors but for those outside of MN it is a big deal. For most high end FAs it is going to require more than matching big market bids. We are mostly going to get the overpays like Donaldson or those with limited choices like Correa.  Not a lot of these in most off seasons.  Many fans chant the annual chorus of “they should go get…(fill in name with a hyper expensive FA) as if it were a matter of simply ordering from Amazon.  This year more than most I think the odds of that are near zero.  
 

I suspect the FO hope is that Paddack can replace some of Gray’s production.  Bringing Maeda back would make a lot of sense.  He pitched well last year and one more year removed from TJ should bring better results and stamina.  
 

A trade may be an option but a lot of player capital was spent on the Gray, P. Lopez, Mahle, and J. Lopez trades.  A rebound candidate like Gioloto and/or a Pineda like deal for Mahle seem more probable

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18 minutes ago, Wizard11 said:

Given the unknowns about the Twins TV deal I think the chance of one of the “top” (aka expensive) starters landing in MN is zero.  MN has the nation’s fifth highest state tax rate and is the coldest place baseball is played.  Local fans often try to discount these factors but for those outside of MN it is a big deal. For most high end FAs it is going to require more than matching big market bids. We are mostly going to get the overpays like Donaldson or those with limited choices like Correa.  Not a lot of these in most off seasons.  Many fans chant the annual chorus of “they should go get…(fill in name with a hyper expensive FA) as if it were a matter of simply ordering from Amazon.  This year more than most I think the odds of that are near zero.  
 

I suspect the FO hope is that Paddack can replace some of Gray’s production.  Bringing Maeda back would make a lot of sense.  He pitched well last year and one more year removed from TJ should bring better results and stamina.  
 

A trade may be an option but a lot of player capital was spent on the Gray, P. Lopez, Mahle, and J. Lopez trades.  A rebound candidate like Gioloto and/or a Pineda like deal for Mahle seem more probable

Ouch!  This hurts cause you’re probably right.  And that is why we look more towards the trade market for starters. I wonder if the Twins could help Giolito get back on track.  I could be on board with this. 

I like the idea of Odorizzi or even resigning Keuchel as a depth piece in AAA.  

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2 hours ago, Wizard11 said:

Given the unknowns about the Twins TV deal I think the chance of one of the “top” (aka expensive) starters landing in MN is zero.  MN has the nation’s fifth highest state tax rate and is the coldest place baseball is played.  Local fans often try to discount these factors but for those outside of MN it is a big deal. For most high end FAs it is going to require more than matching big market bids. We are mostly going to get the overpays like Donaldson or those with limited choices like Correa.  Not a lot of these in most off seasons.  Many fans chant the annual chorus of “they should go get…(fill in name with a hyper expensive FA) as if it were a matter of simply ordering from Amazon.  This year more than most I think the odds of that are near zero.  
 

I suspect the FO hope is that Paddack can replace some of Gray’s production.  Bringing Maeda back would make a lot of sense.  He pitched well last year and one more year removed from TJ should bring better results and stamina.  
 

A trade may be an option but a lot of player capital was spent on the Gray, P. Lopez, Mahle, and J. Lopez trades.  A rebound candidate like Gioloto and/or a Pineda like deal for Mahle seem more probable

I agree although i would prefer to se them re-sign Gray than Maeda. I suspect the Twins will re-sign one of those two - maybe Gray for 3 years 65-70m, or Maeda for 2 years, 15m - and then seek depth by picking up a bounce back candidate like a rehabbing Odorrizzi or someone coming of a poor year like Giolito, Paxton or Montas. I'd love to see them make a run at Montgomery or Rodriquez but I think they will be too expensive.  Paddack goes to #3 after Lopez and Gray, or #2 wiwth Maeda #4. 

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Austin Martin needs to be up here playing center field next year.

The free agent pitcher market is going to be way overpriced for the top 3 guys.

The lefty Rodriguez makes some sense, but the most interesting flyer for me is the young Japanese pitcher coming on the market. Pitchers from Japan have had a lot of success here for a while now and he could be a real steal.

Walner is at best another Kepler right now and with Julien & Brooks Lee coming up there is no reason to keep Polanco & Kepler anymore. Youth movement, unknown quantities,  scary I know, but sign a big RH bat and then move forward with the youngsters.

Depth at 1B is an issue as well as bullpen. Need people there. 

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2 hours ago, KBJ1 said:

Austin Martin needs to be up here playing center field next year.

 

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I am not looking forward to this offseason of the Twins looking for SP is we lose Sonny or Kenta. I was open to Lorenzen, but the fact he got moved to the pen just soured me. Hopefully Heaney opts out or by some miracle we can get Montgomery.

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I don't want to be a doomsday crazy guy, but a starting rotation of Lopez, Ryan, Ober, Paddock, Varland might get us a division title in a bad division, but that won't win a playoff series, I think. To win past the Wild Card series, at least, you've got to have a very good 1-2 (and even 3) punch. I'm not saying we need to win the ALCS next year (especially because 2025, 2026 are going to be huge opportunities for us), but we need a true Sonny Gray replacement (or the man himself) if we're going to do so (yes it's risky business for a big Sonny deal, but dare I say we can afford it (considering Vasquez and Polo off the books in 27, Kep in 26, and the plethora of rookie deals to be in effect)? Yes, despite uncertainty with the TV deal. Yea, I haven't checked the payroll math, but nonetheless.

I'm more confident in a SG deal of 3 for $75 than a Maeda deal for 2 for $15 mil (as has been discussed here).

Granted, though. Our offense in 24 should be more potent than 23, with full seasons from healthier Lewis, Correa, Polo, and maybe even improvements from the kids (although regression is just as likely).

I'm sorry for a long rant, but in addition to building pitching depth back up, I think we need to make a move for an equivalent of Sonny Gray, or at least a better #2 than Ryan/Ober, to get back to the ALCS. If it's gonna be a no -Sonny Gray, it'll be via trade.

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