2013 Draft: The Mocks

[PseudoSABR]

Jim Callis from BA

4. TWINS: A year ago, Minnesota badly needed pitching but used the No. 2 overall choice on outfielder Byron Buxton, the 2012 draft’s top-rated prospect. While the Twins aren’t as desperate now, they’re still looking at arms. Stewart comes with more risk but similar ceiling to Appel and Gray. Manaea and Ball are other options. Rumors persist that Minnesota could cut a deal with Washington high school catcher Reese McGuire and spend heavily further down in the draft.

PROJECTED PICK: KOHL STEWART.

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Jim Callis from BA

 

Thanks for the post! I will add BAs mock to the list!

[gunnarthor]

Jim Callis from BA

 

Reese McGwire pops up again. Certainly some smoke there.

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Reese McGwire pops up again. Certainly some smoke there.

 

Ugh, at this point you have to believe they are in on him.

[drivlikejehu]

Wouldn't surprise me if the Twins cut a deal and then pocketed the savings.

[maxisagod]

Wouldn't surprise me if the Twins cut a deal and then pocketed the savings.

 

Or cut a deal and sign Ryan Boldt with their 2nd pick above slot.

[gunnarthor]

Wouldn't surprise me if the Twins cut a deal and then pocketed the savings.

 

Under Carl Pohlad, I'd believe that but I'll give his sons some benefit of the doubt. Not much, but some. But if we don't spend all our allocated draft amount after dropping payroll ....

[mlhouse]

 

Braden Shipley is growing on me too. He's got to be the number 3 college arm at this time. Keith Law says he has a plus fastball but thinks his changeup will end up being his best pitch. I know that would interest the Twins.

 

I think Shipley will be the pick and I agree with you that the fastball-changeup mix will be what interests the Twins. I think they will see Manaea as a higher upside player, but they have been burned now with injured college arms that they will pass on him. The Georgia outfielders are intriguing, but the would prefer Meadows and I see a little bit of Joe Benson in him myself.

[kab21]

Reese McGwire pops up again. Certainly some smoke there.

 

I think I would like to see them target Shipley underslot. McGuire doesn't really do it for me. That just seems like a Tony Sanchez (although a college C) pick.

[Einstein]

I really hope they don't reach on McGuire. Just take the best player.

 

Here's a Mock Draft Database BTW:

2013 Major League Baseball Mock Draft Database

[clutterheart]

Sickels says:

One of these guys:

Gray or Appel or Bryant or Frazier

So that probably means Frazier

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Updated the list with sports illustrated's mock.

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Hmm.....the guy who did the sports illustrated mock has very....interesting takes on players. He mentions before the mock he has Frazier as the #1 prospect in the draft. Here is his right up for the twins and Frazier:

 

The Twins are building an excellent core of young position players in Trevor Plouffe, Aaron Hicks, Chris Parmalee and last year's number two overall pick, outfielder Byron Buxton. Adding Frazier could give Minnesota the best and most athletic outfield in the majors in five years time. He has legitimate five-tool talent, possesses electric bat speed and is tremendously fast, which allows him to steal bases and be an outstanding defensive player. His closest major league comparison is probably Pirates star Andrew McCutchen.

I have never seen a Frazier-McCutchen comparison before. Interesting

 

Read More: MLB Mock Draft: Gray looks like best bet at No. 1 -- for now - MLB - SI.com

[gunnarthor]

Hmm.....the guy who did the sports illustrated mock has very....interesting takes on players. He mentions before the mock he has Frazier as the #1 prospect in the draft. Here is his right up for the twins and Frazier:

 

The Twins are building an excellent core of young position players in Trevor Plouffe, Aaron Hicks, Chris Parmalee and last year's number two overall pick, outfielder Byron Buxton. Adding Frazier could give Minnesota the best and most athletic outfield in the majors in five years time. He has legitimate five-tool talent, possesses electric bat speed and is tremendously fast, which allows him to steal bases and be an outstanding defensive player. His closest major league comparison is probably Pirates star Andrew McCutchen.

I have never seen a Frazier-McCutchen comparison before. Interesting

 

Read More: MLB Mock Draft: Gray looks like best bet at No. 1 -- for now - MLB - SI.com

 

Yeah, I didn't know what to make of that report either. Plouffe and Parmelee aren't exactly exciting players to build around.

[Twins Twerp]

Yeah, I didn't know what to make of that report either. Plouffe and Parmelee aren't exactly exciting players to build around.

 

I feel like this guy does not know what he is talking about. Plouffe and Parmalee are not building blocks. Also, how can you mention Hicks w/o Arcia? Buxton w/o Sano or Rosario? Frazier scare me because he I so unique. I have read multiple times that he doesn't really have an MLB comp. Plus the dude is a red head. STAY AWAY FROM REDHEADS. Challenge: Name a ginger who is at least a second division player other than Leeewwwwwwwwwwwwwww Ford?

[gunnarthor]

Challenge: Name a ginger who is at least a second division player other than Leeewwwwwwwwwwwwwww Ford?

 

Amy Pond.

 

Oh, wait, you're talking about baseball?

[TRex]

River Song...

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I feel like this guy does not know what he is talking about. Plouffe and Parmalee are not building blocks. Also, how can you mention Hicks w/o Arcia? Buxton w/o Sano or Rosario? Frazier scare me because he I so unique. I have read multiple times that he doesn't really have an MLB comp. Plus the dude is a red head. STAY AWAY FROM REDHEADS. Challenge: Name a ginger who is at least a second division player other than Leeewwwwwwwwwwwwwww Ford?

 

He was only naming guys who had been drafted, hence the others are not named. Silly to not do that, but I believe that is why.

 

And nowhere does it say Parmelee and Plouffe are building blocks, just part of their younger core already in the majors, which is true. I guess I dont take core to mean they are surefire guys that will be here forever.

[ashbury]

an excellent core of young position players

 

And in regard to the other comments following this, he did not quite say the same thing as "a core of excellent young position players".

[Twins Twerp]

He was only naming guys who had been drafted, hence the others are not named. Silly to not do that, but I believe that is why.

 

And nowhere does it say Parmelee and Plouffe are building blocks, just part of their younger core already in the majors, which is true. I guess I dont take core to mean they are surefire guys that will be here forever.

 

Rosario was drafted by the Twins not?

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Rosario was drafted by the Twins not?

 

Sorry, meant first round picks. I think the thinking behind the comment was they have drafted well in the first round with position players sans Michael in the last 10 years since Plouffe.

 

If he was going anywhere else with it, it doesnt make sense.

[diehardtwinsfan]

Yeah, I didn't know what to make of that report either. Plouffe and Parmelee aren't exactly exciting players to build around.

 

The key word with these guys is "Could". They could be building blocks. They could be place holders. The nice thing about having little expectation is that the Twins can trot them out every day for the next year or two and get a decent idea if they are worth keeping or worth trading as the next wave arrives.

 

Given the need and where the Twin's lack, my gut says Plouffe eventually finds his way back to short where he can provide an above average bat and enough years of experience that the jitters are gone.

[Oxtung]

Since he concludes his thought with, "Adding Frazier could give Minnesota the best and most athletic outfield in the majors in five years time." I think he was only mentioning other potential pieces of that OF with some name recognition so his national audience could relate to his writing. The only big missing piece of the OF puzzle was Arcia and he isn't exactly a big name at this point outside of Twins circles where as Hicks spent the entire spring training being fawned over by many major media sources.

[Twins Twerp]

Sorry, meant first round picks. I think the thinking behind the comment was they have drafted well in the first round with position players sans Michael in the last 10 years since Plouffe.

 

If he was going anywhere else with it, it doesnt make sense.

 

Hat is exactly what he meant. Now that u say that I get it. They have drafted position players who have at least kade it to the bi

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John Sickels put out his Mock draft today and I believe Law is putting one out today too. If Law does I will add it when it comes out but for now here is Sickels mock:

 

http://www.minorleagueball.com/2013/5/16/4335316/2013-mlb-mock-draft-version-two-john-sickels-may-16

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Keith Law released his first mock draft:

 

Houston Astros do not take Mark Appel in first mock draft of 2013 - MLB Draft - ESPN

 

It is behind the money wall but here is what he says about the Twins pick, Stewart in this mock;

 

"They've been very heavy on Stewart over his last few outings, and he's an ideal fit for a system that needs high-upside pitchers, with Stewart offering the athleticism the Twins have always favored in position players.

There is a persistent rumor that the Twins will cut a deal with prep catcher Reese McGuire for less than MLB's recommended bonus, which would allow them to apply those savings later in the draft. But Stewart is clearly the better choice and appears to be higher on their internal board, below only the three players who I project to go in the top three."

[nicksaviking]

I hope Law is right about the Twins draft board and their intentions.

[Mike Sixel]

I'm a ginger, or was for most of my life.....and this thread needs more Dr. Who, frankly.....

 

but I agree, I hope Law is right.

[gunnarthor]

Where did Ryan Boldt go in his mock?

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Where did Ryan Boldt go in his mock?

 

Not in the first round.

 

From his chat today on Boldt:

 

Ryan Boldt college bound or does team with large pool like astros try and get him in 2nd or 3rd?

[h=6]Klaw (12:42 PM)

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If the medicals came back OK, I'd love to take him at 40 if I were Houston and pay him over slot.