Dozier vs. Rosario

[mnfanforlife]

Who would you rather see open the 2013 season at 2-bag, Brian Dozier or Ed Rosario?

 

Obviously, it would be a lot more fun to see Eddie. But, we won't. Rosario is now 5-8 with a homer in a few games off the bench this spring.

[gunnarthor]

I can't imagine he's ready to play in the majors yet. Longterm, I hope he becomes an all star but right now, I think Dozier would pretty clearly out hit and probably field a lot better too.

[LimestoneBaggy]

It would be fun to beleive that Eddie could maintain this level in the regular season, but Dozier it is.

[Seth Stohs]

Who would you rather see open the 2013 season at 2-bag, Brian Dozier or Ed Rosario?

 

Obviously, it would be a lot more fun to see Eddie. But, we won't. Rosario is now 5-8 with a homer in a few games off the bench this spring.

 

I believe we officially have our first overreaction to early spring training stats... It took four games. I thought that it would happen a lot quicker.

 

Eddie Rosario is a legit hitter, but he's not ready yet... he can move quickly. But Dozier's much more ready at this time.

[glunn]

I believe we officially have our first overreaction to early spring training stats... It took four games. I thought that it would happen a lot quicker.

 

Eddie Rosario is a legit hitter, but he's not ready yet... he can move quickly. But Dozier's much more ready at this time.

 

Logic and experience are completely on your side, yet I am enjoying the fantasy that Rosario will be a fast mover like Mike Trout. And if Rosario hits well again tomorrow, then he will bring additional joy to my otherwise bleak life. So please continue to be gentle when introducing reality into these discussions.

[roger]

I believe we officially have our first overreaction to early spring training stats... It took four games. I thought that it would happen a lot quicker.

 

Eddie Rosario is a legit hitter, but he's not ready yet... he can move quickly. But Dozier's much more ready at this time.

 

My question Seth, if Rosario has a good WBC and great first half at Fort Meyers he should go up to New Britain at the break. Assuming he continues to hit there like he can/should, does he get a September callup? If my California math is correct, he doesn't have to be added to the 40-man roster until after 2014. But if he has a great year at both stops, is he the young star to get a non-Twins like callup? Your thoughts please!

[righty8383]

I believe we officially have our first overreaction to early spring training stats... It took four games. I thought that it would happen a lot quicker.

 

I knew I should've started a "Cut Mike Pelfrey" thread a few hours ago.

[Seth Stohs]

My question Seth, if Rosario has a good WBC and great first half at Fort Meyers he should go up to New Britain at the break. Assuming he continues to hit there like he can/should, does he get a September callup? If my California math is correct, he doesn't have to be added to the 40-man roster until after 2014. But if he has a great year at both stops, is he the young star to get a non-Twins like callup? Your thoughts please!

 

I don't think he will get to play very much in the WBC because Puerto Rico is going to play Beltran, Pagan and Rios in their OF, so he might get an at bat or two. However, I fully expect that he ends the season in New Britain. I think he's a much more advanced all-around hitter than Miguel Sano, so I can see him moving up very quickly. That said, if he doesn't have to be added to the 40 man roster until after 2014, and there are several quality prospects that do have to be added after 2013, I would be shocked if he got a call up in September. It just doesn't make sense. Unless they are 100% certain that he will be their every day 2B at the start of 2014, I don't see any good reason to give him the September call up. That said, I definitely expect him to be up sometime just before September of 2014.

[Rosterman]

Fast thru the system with a September call-up as Carroll will have been traded to a contender. Look for him to get a shot in 2014 if Florimon, Dozier or Escobar are reserve players.

[drjim]

8 at bats eh?

[Han Joelo]

Is there a really good Puerto Rican 2B blocking Rosario or is his defense so raw they won't play him there? Or, to put it another way, is there a chance he could hit his way into a start or two a 2B?

 

I'm sure it is a huge honor to play for your country, but it would be nice if he spent ST working on D, rather than sitting on a bench.

 

Nonetheless, great boxscore for him today, and he fielded the final out.

[bird]

What a great spring experience for this kid!!! He gets to hang around with all these accomplished professionals in Fort Meyers with the Twins. Maybe talk a little baseball and get some instruction from Carew, Molitor, etc. Then he gets to watch Rios, Beltran, and Pagan go about their business for a couple weeks. Wow.

[Thrylos]

I am sure that the kid is having the time of his life and I hope he keeps it up, but I just don't see him making the roster.

 

BTW he is not formally invited to ST (every season the Twins give some uninvited minor leaguers some time with the big team and this is what happened here, but it usually happens after the cuts.) The timing of this is interesting, and maybe has to do with the fact that (the invited) Deibinson Romero has not played yet. Maybe something is wrong with him but I haven't heard anything to or against that effect.

 

I think that what Rosario is fighting for is Fort Myers vs. New Britain (to begin) this season, but I just don't see him start in AA for a lot of reasons including the temperature up there in April.

[ashbury]

I am enjoying the fantasy that Rosario will be a fast mover like Mike Trout..

 

Hrbek feels like the right analogy to me. Both were in the Midwestern League at age 20. Kent cooled his heels for another year at high A before belatedly getting the call from the big club; the Twins were lucky he didn't get bored and decide to go into pro wrestling. Anyway, let Eddie get a year of seasoning in high A, then call him up.

[diehardtwinsfan]

I'm a bit surprised people are even asking this question. He still needs quite a bit of work defensively, so I doubt he ends up in NB. He could get promoted if he continues to hit and plays decent defense, but he won't be starting in NB... No question if he puts things together that he'll be moved rapidly, but unless he forces it, the soonest he will be in MN is for a Sept call up next year.

[Nick Nelson]

Who would you rather see open the 2013 season at 2-bag, Brian Dozier or Ed Rosario?

Luke Hughes.

 

BTW he is not formally invited to ST (every season the Twins give some uninvited minor leaguers some time with the big team and this is what happened here, but it usually happens after the cuts.) The timing of this is interesting, and maybe has to do with the fact that (the invited) Deibinson Romero has not played yet. Maybe something is wrong with him but I haven't heard anything to or against that effect.

The Twins brought Rosario to camp so he could get a little work in before the WBC, and so the coaching staff could get a look at him before he leaves for a couple weeks. Don't think it's anything more than that.

[mnfanforlife]

Is there a really good Puerto Rican 2B blocking Rosario or is his defense so raw they won't play him there? Or, to put it another way, is there a chance he could hit his way into a start or two a 2B?

 

I'm sure it is a huge honor to play for your country, but it would be nice if he spent ST working on D, rather than sitting on a bench.

 

Nonetheless, great boxscore for him today, and he fielded the final out.

 

Yes!! There is an awesome 2-bagger playing in front of Rosario for the WBC. His name is Falu. I played with a Puerto Rican that knows him personally. Falu is a pimp. But so is Eddie, he's just young.

[DaveW]

I'd also personally give Benson a contract extension while we are at it! Keep in mind Eddie has gotten his hits off a bunch of guys throwing 80% or who will be bagging groceries in a couple months.

[mnfanforlife]

Eddie is better than Dozier offensively, right now. I think, since the big club is gonna suck this year, that Rosario will get at least 2 years of defensive work in the minor leagues.

[diehardtwinsfan]

Eddie is better than Dozier offensively, right now. I think, since the big club is gonna suck this year, that Rosario will get at least 2 years of defensive work in the minor leagues.

 

He played in Beloit last year, not New Brittian. No question he has a higher offensive ceiling, but that's pushing it.

[Seth Stohs]

Logic and experience are completely on your side, yet I am enjoying the fantasy that Rosario will be a fast mover like Mike Trout. And if Rosario hits well again tomorrow, then he will bring additional joy to my otherwise bleak life. So please continue to be gentle when introducing reality into these discussions.

 

Although, Trout is only like 6 weeks older than Rosario, so... not quite the same movement.

[bird]

I am sure that the kid is having the time of his life and I hope he keeps it up, but I just don't see him making the roster.

 

BTW he is not formally invited to ST (every season the Twins give some uninvited minor leaguers some time with the big team and this is what happened here, but it usually happens after the cuts.) The timing of this is interesting, and maybe has to do with the fact that (the invited) Deibinson Romero has not played yet. Maybe something is wrong with him but I haven't heard anything to or against that effect.

 

I think that what Rosario is fighting for is Fort Myers vs. New Britain (to begin) this season, but I just don't see him start in AA for a lot of reasons including the temperature up there in April.

 

thrylos, my dear brother. Dear dear dear. You're making stuff up here, brother. There are thirteen Twins playing in the WBC. All of them are in the big league camp, because they were formally invited to get ready for the WBC. Several of them would not othwerwise be in camp, most notably Berrios and Rosario. This has been widely reported.

[johnnydakota]

I believe we officially have our first overreaction to early spring training stats... It took four games. I thought that it would happen a lot quicker.

 

Eddie Rosario is a legit hitter, but he's not ready yet... he can move quickly. But Dozier's much more ready at this time.

 

Im guessing Edwardos move to 2b , may not be his last.If Harris and Sano can not make the next step defensivly , we may see Rosario moved to 3rd

[johnnydakota]

thrylos, my dear brother. Dear dear dear. You're making stuff up here, brother. There are thirteen Twins playing in the WBC. All of them are in the big league camp, because they were formally invited to get ready for the WBC. Several of them would not othwerwise be in camp, most notably Berrios and Rosario. This has been widely reported.

 

Me thinks your both right, especially when they play split games the twins will reach down into the minors camp and will bring up a couple of players ...And every player who will participate in the WBC is in the mlb camp to prepare for the turnement

[mnfanforlife]

If Dozier is so "ready", then maybe he can play shortstop for Minnesota? In my opinion, Carrol is a bench guy, and Florimon and Escobar are AAA material. Eddie is MLB material. Dozier might be, but he sure didn't look like it during his extended playing time with MN last year.

 

Obviously we won't see Eddie next year in Minnesota. But it sure would be more fun than seeing these other posers.

[mnfanforlife]

I believe we officially have our first overreaction to early spring training stats... It took four games. I thought that it would happen a lot quicker.

 

Eddie Rosario is a legit hitter, but he's not ready yet... he can move quickly. But Dozier's much more ready at this time.

 

I would bet that at this time next year, people will be screaming for Rosario to start the season in Minnesota.

 

And...if you read the post, it's hardly an overreaction to anything. Facts are stated, as well as my opinion. It would be A LOT MORE FUN to watch Eddie struggle in the majors, than to see the AAA clown squad we are going to roll out there this season

[mnfanforlife]

Although, Trout is only like 6 weeks older than Rosario, so... not quite the same movement.

 

Yeah. Trout is on another level.

 

Eddie is a very talented offensive force, and will be a top-of-the order guy in the bigs. Offensively, Eddie is ready. Defensively, no.

[Seth Stohs]

I would bet that at this time next year, people will be screaming for Rosario to start the season in Minnesota.

 

And...if you read the post, it's hardly an overreaction to anything. Facts are stated, as well as my opinion. It would be A LOT MORE FUN to watch Eddie struggle in the majors, than to see the AAA clown squad we are going to roll out there this season

 

I have no doubt that a year from now, we'll be clamoring for Rosario to be in the big leagues... but not now. Some people can't get past that first impression that a player makes in the big leagues. Dozier was not good, but that doesn't mean he can't be good. His ceiling is not near Rosario's, for sure, Rosario's upside is so high, you don't mess with his development.

[Seth Stohs]

Yeah. Trout is on another level.

 

Eddie is a very talented offensive force, and will be a top-of-the order guy in the bigs. Offensively, Eddie is ready. Defensively, no.

 

How are you so certain that Rosario is ready offensively? Cuz he's hit well late in early spring training games? I believe in him completely, but it's not because of 8 spring at bats. Let him breathe.

[Seth Stohs]

thrylos, my dear brother. Dear dear dear. You're making stuff up here, brother. There are thirteen Twins playing in the WBC. All of them are in the big league camp, because they were formally invited to get ready for the WBC. Several of them would not othwerwise be in camp, most notably Berrios and Rosario. This has been widely reported.

 

The only special invite WBC players in Twins camp are Rosario, Berrios and Albers. Stuifbergen has been training with Blyleven and the Netherlands team for a few weeks already. But, Beresford, Martis and Colabello and Deduno and Guerra are formal Non-Roster Invites.

 

The Twins will bring other minor leaguers to some big league games after they start camp next week, and once the Twins have sent a bunch of players down to minor league camp.