2021 Off-Season Thread

[Mike Sixel]

Just saw they dealt a 4th for him.....that seems REALLY STEEP. We'll see, I guess.

They had to get a TE somehow, with their best hurt.

[gunnarthor]

On 8/29/2021 at 6:49 PM, TheLeviathan said:

TE depth across the league is pretty good.  That might be an area we see them swing a deal.  You can't play 2 TE sets 98% of the time and field Conklin and Dillon in those roles.

Nice call

 

https://www.dailynorseman.com/2021/8/31/22650867/minnesota-vikings-trade-new-york-jets-chris-herndon

[TheLeviathan]

3 minutes ago, gunnarthor said:

Nice call

 

https://www.dailynorseman.com/2021/8/31/22650867/minnesota-vikings-trade-new-york-jets-chris-herndon

That's a more talented player than I expected too.

[Mike Sixel]

Reading it might not be a 4th.....I guess we'll see soon. 

Also, Browning cut....so they only two I actively wanted cut are gone.....

[Vanimal46]

1 hour ago, Mike Sixel said:

Dozier cut! Phew.

 

Samia too. Hopefully that means Davis is ready to go week 1. Otherwise I don’t know who else is left at guard. 

[Mike Sixel]

Griffen cut, but he'll be added back soon......

[Vanimal46]

3 hours ago, Mike Sixel said:

Griffen cut, but he'll be added back soon......

To be blunt, he looked quite a bit more chunky since his last time in a Vikings uniform. I know he got a sack in the preseason game but he was unblocked. Anyone could have gotten that sack. 

[Danchat]

Just now, Vanimal46 said:

To be blunt, he looked quite a bit more chunky since his last time in a Vikings uniform. I know he got a sack in the preseason game but he was unblocked. Anyone could have gotten that sack. 

He wasn't unblocked, he timed the snap count so perfectly that the LT had no chance of blocking him. He only played 4 snaps which resulted in 1 sack and 2 pressures, one of which led to another sack. He's way better than any of our other DEs not named Hunter at the moment. I don't know why they bothered to keep both Weatherly and Holmes, neither of which are any good.

[TheLeviathan]

1 hour ago, Danchat said:

He wasn't unblocked, he timed the snap count so perfectly that the LT had no chance of blocking him. He only played 4 snaps which resulted in 1 sack and 2 pressures, one of which led to another sack. He's way better than any of our other DEs not named Hunter at the moment. I don't know why they bothered to keep both Weatherly and Holmes, neither of which are any good.

Especially Holmes.  I sorta liked that pick when they made it.  I thought he was an athlete who could bulk up enough to play the 3 tech....but he looks both slow and small for it.  He's a complete waste of a roster spot IMO.

This week off before the season starts is going to change this cutdown process.  There is going to be a lot of IR maneuvering we haven't seen before.  Right now we have no long-snapper, need more TE depth, have too many LBs, and could use an OL or a QB too.  

[Danchat]

2 minutes ago, TheLeviathan said:

Especially Holmes.  I sorta liked that pick when they made it.  I thought he was an athlete who could bulk up enough to play the 3 tech....but he looks both slow and small for it.  He's a complete waste of a roster spot IMO.

This week off before the season starts is going to change this cutdown process.  There is going to be a lot of IR maneuvering we haven't seen before.  Right now we have no long-snapper, need more TE depth, have too many LBs, and could use an OL or a QB too.  

They already got their TE depth:

It's an overpay for a guy with a ton of natural talent, but has converted very little of that into actual good TE play.

[TheLeviathan]

59 minutes ago, Danchat said:

They already got their TE depth:

It's an overpay for a guy with a ton of natural talent, but has converted very little of that into actual good TE play.

I know....they may need another one.

[nicksaviking]

9 hours ago, Danchat said:

They already got their TE depth:

It's an overpay for a guy with a ton of natural talent, but has converted very little of that into actual good TE play.

I'd be happy to give Herndon a go with the idea that he has never had good QB play.

But still, a 4th seems like a lot for a guy who was probably on the bubble to be cut anyway.

[Mike Sixel]

Well, it's a fourth for him and a sixth, and the jets paid most of his pay. For a team near the cap like the Vikings, that matters. 

[Mike Sixel]

Looks like Irv Smith is out for the year. Sigh. 

[Vanimal46]

Makes sense why the trade happened now. Kind of a desperation Trade again similar to Bradford. At least it’s not a 1st round pick this time…

[Danchat]

13 hours ago, TheLeviathan said:

I know....they may need another one.

Whoops, I missed the discussion on that. But they just claim TE Ben Ellefson from the Jags, likely to be a blocker.

[nicksaviking]

Enthusiasm tracker for the Vikings upcoming season - on a scale of 1-10:

Post Super Bowl: 1

Post Free Agency: 8

Post Draft: 10

Post Covid and Injury Fueled Training Camp: 3

 

[nicksaviking]

Ellifson is a guy from my neck of the woods, so normally I'd be excited to see him on the Vikings.

But the Jaguars and Urban Meyer admitted that being unvaccinated played a role in their roster decisions. If we find out that he's unvaccinated, like his dopey buddy Carson Wentz, Rick Spielman will have used up his last chance with me.

[Vanimal46]

The punter Colquitt was released. I don’t think we have a long snapper employed either. Special teams is off to a roaring start for the season. 

[Vanimal46]

Oh boy!

[Mike Sixel]

4 minutes ago, Vanimal46 said:

The punter Colquitt was released. I don’t think we have a long snapper employed either. Special teams is off to a roaring start for the season. 

99% sure they bring back the LS after they put 2 guys on the injured list....but, um, ya.

[TheLeviathan]

Jesus, this team is a parody at this point.  

At this point signing Sidney Rice to play TE seems like something worth gambling on in Vegas.

[Mike Sixel]

4 put on the IR.....100%, imo, Griffen, the long snapper, and the new TE. And a new punter. Neither Barr nor Darrisaw on the injured list....

[Mike Sixel]

And, Griffen and the LS have been re-signed.......now they need a punter. 

[Danchat]

Here is how my depth chart is looking:

It sounds like Colquitt will be back and Mannion will be added to the roster or practice squad. They will also need another RB and perhaps another tackle.

 

[Danchat]

So, the Vikings found a new punter today:

 

[a-wan]

The need to have bad backup QBs to keep Cousins happy and secure as the starter is so stupid. And Herndon is unvaccinated so he has to sit out 5 days.

 

[Vanimal46]

25 minutes ago, a-wan said:

The need to have bad backup QBs to keep Cousins happy and secure as the starter is so stupid. And Herndon is unvaccinated so he has to sit out 5 days.

 

It sure would be nice to have standards like Tampa Bay who are 100% vaccinated. We made our bed letting our team leaders Smith, Thielen, and Kirk go unvaccinated. If they made any other roster moves with that caveat in mind, the irony would be rich. They did the opposite by rewarding Harry the Hitman with more guaranteed money. 

[nicksaviking]

11 hours ago, a-wan said:

The need to have bad backup QBs to keep Cousins happy and secure as the starter is so stupid. And Herndon is unvaccinated so he has to sit out 5 days.

 

That's it, I need Spielman out. I'm really struggling to support this team right now. I almost want them to fail out of spite for the reckless and carless GM. Zimmer needs to call him out directly. 

[Mike Sixel]

3 hours ago, nicksaviking said:

That's it, I need Spielman out. I'm really struggling to support this team right now. I almost want them to fail out of spite for the reckless and carless GM. Zimmer needs to call him out directly. 

You know, I have decided I agree with you.......