troyhobbs Provisional Member Posted July 14, 2016 Posted July 14, 2016 If Berrios isn't up by the end of July then there is something wrong with the front office.If Berrios IS up by the end of July there is still something wrong with the front office. wsnydes, Vanimal46, jimmer and 2 others 5
Loosey Verified Member Posted July 14, 2016 Posted July 14, 2016 Yeah, I've kind of lost hope on him too, as being any kind of impact player on a contending team. Players need to be judged in two main ways: 1) what's his ceiling, and 2) how often does he reach that ceiling. There are a lot of ways the latter question can be answered disappointingly, without it reflecting on the player's character. But, if you never know if you're going to see the Good Kyle or the Bad Kyle on the mound for you, well, maybe a .500 pitcher is an improvement when you are trying to avoid a 100-loss season, but not an asset when you are ready to shoot for 100 wins. I'm sure Kyle understands all this, but for whatever reason, he can't find the week-to-week consistency that is required.I think the 2nd half is big for Gibson. I still view him as a solid #3 starter and a #2 type when he is on. His first half was injury plagued and inconsistent. I still view him as a long-term piece to the rotation. Dozier's Glorious Hair 1
Lee-The-Twins-Fan Provisional Member Posted July 14, 2016 Posted July 14, 2016 I see E. Santana and Dozier as the biggest trade chips. We'll see what the Twins can get for them. Although... something tells me Dozier won't be traded. He and Mauer are the two remaining veterans among the position players, and the Twins need his leadership. I kind of hope either Escobar or Nunez gets traded for some prospects, and then they'll bring up Polanco. If E. Santana is traded then Berrios should be called up. I would not be surprised, however, if Gibson was traded.
Minfidel Verified Member Posted July 15, 2016 Posted July 15, 2016 I feel like I'm waiting for Godot, while waiting for Berrios and Meyer and May to be in the rotation.....I'm still waiting for Jeff Bumgarner and Steve Gasser. Mike Sixel 1
Richie the Rally Goat Community Moderator Posted July 15, 2016 Posted July 15, 2016 Is Godot a pitcher?
Old Twins Cap Verified Member Posted July 15, 2016 Posted July 15, 2016 Vladimir is a pitcher; Estragon is catcher. Godot is Manager. Beckett is the owner. ashbury and Mike Sixel 2
tobi0040 Verified Member Posted July 15, 2016 Posted July 15, 2016 (edited) After his first 3 relief apperances here were the numbers on Carlos Rodon: 6 IP, 2 ER, 4 BB, 8k. He was moved to the rotation. Start 1: 6 IP, 2 ER, 4 BB, 8k Start 2: 4 IP, 5 ER, 6 BB, and 5 k Start 3: 6 IP, 1 ER, 5 BB, 4 K. Total 22 IP, 4.09 ERA, 19 BB, and 25 k. He proceeded to stay up and pitch 139 innings that year. Berrios through his 15 IP had a higher ERA at 10.2 driven by his last 7 ER start, but his k rate was better (20k in 15 IP) and his BB rate was lower (12 BB in 15 IP). Back to the farm kid.Really fascinating stats Tobi. Good stuff. You are very brilliant. I also noticed today that Carson Fullmer is being called up by the White Sox. Did you know that he has basically the same innings and k numbers as Berrios, with a much higher ERA (4.76 to 2.59)? Except those are Fullmer's AA numbers compared to Berrios's AAA numbers. Edited July 15, 2016 by tobi0040
tobi0040 Verified Member Posted July 15, 2016 Posted July 15, 2016 Really fascinating stats Tobi. Good stuff. You are very brilliant. I also noticed today that Carson Fullmer is being called up by the White Sox. Did you know that he has basically the same innings and k numbers as Berrios, with a much higher ERA (4.76 to 2.59)?Wow. I didn't see that. Thank you as well for the post. Great insight. You are also brilliant. Cheers.
whosafraidofluigirussolo Verified Member Posted July 15, 2016 Posted July 15, 2016 Vladimir is a pitcher; Estragon is catcher. Godot is Manager. Beckett is the owner. Who are Pozzo and Lucky in this scenario?
ashbury Verified Member Posted July 17, 2016 Posted July 17, 2016 Wow. I didn't see that. Thank you as well for the post. Great insight. You are also brilliant. Cheers.Bartender, can you please cut this man off, and maybe confiscate his car keys and call him a cab? glunn 1
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