Article: Game Thread: Twins v Athletics, 7/4 @ 1:10pm CT

[spinowner]

So if a pitcher allows 3 runs through 6 it's a quality start. Is it still a quality start if he allows a run or many runs in the seventh inning? I realize it's not an official stat but I've never been clear on it.

[LaBombo]

 

the pen.

Not mightier than the sword today. An object lesson in the near-irrelevance of reliever ERA...

 

Edited July 4, 2016 by LaBombo

[Don Walcott]

So if a pitcher allows 3 runs through 6 it's a quality start. Is it still a quality start if he allows a run or many runs in the seventh inning? I realize it's not an official stat but I've never been clear on it.

Even if they go 9, it's not a quality start if they give up 4 earned runs. Makes no sense.

[LaBombo]

 

 

Mauer is swinging the bat like his concussion symptoms are back. Either that, or his back hurts. He's got no pop in his swing anymore. 

 

The Twins may not perpetually lead the league in player days lost to the DL, but if there were stats for performance lost to playing through injuries the Twins would have to be near the top of the heap.

[LaBombo]

 

Even if they go 9, it's not a quality start if they give up 4 earned runs. Makes no sense.

Agreed, although it's a font of reason and accountability compared to a reliever getting a vulture W for giving up a one pitch rocket lineout to CF after a starter who pitched 8 innings of a scoreless tie gets a pat on the head.

Edited July 4, 2016 by LaBombo

[Don Walcott]

Though I'm disappointed in Molitor this year, at least he didn't do what the Brew Crew did today.

[Hosken Bombo Disco]

Did anybody hear a while ago Gladden say (slip out?) that teams have been calling about Vargas?

 

I know, negativity police, I will show myself out back of the game thread and to the discussion boards.....

[LaBombo]

 

Though I'm disappointed in Molitor this year, at least he didn't do what the Brew Crew did today.

Get drunk, dress a pet like a hotdog, and pass out?

 

http://statsstylescore.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/hank.jpg

 

Never mind, I was thinking of my central MN relatives...

[Aggies7]

I love a good Mauer looking at 3 meatballs at bat

[Don Walcott]

Agreed, but it's a font of reason and accountability compared to a reliever getting a vulture W for giving up a one pitch rocket lineout to CF after a starter who pitched 8 innings of a scoreless tie gets a pat on the head.

No argument about the win stat. However it seems so easy to change the QS star so that 8+IP and 4 earned runs would qualify. Would add about 30 quality starts to Jack's stat sheet, including one huge CG win over the A's in August 1991.

[Aggies7]

Did anybody hear a while ago Gladden say (slip out?) that teams have been calling about Vargas?

I know, negativity police, I will show myself out back of the game thread and to the discussion boards.....

Calling him out for what?

[glunn]

 

Though I'm disappointed in Molitor this year, at least he didn't do what the Brew Crew did today.

What did they do?

[Don Walcott]

Manager switched Braun and Lucroy in the lineup. Apparently neither of them knew as Braun went up 3rd, got a hit, and was called out after Baker appealed it.

[glunn]

 

Manager switched Braun and Lucroy in the lineup. Apparently neither of them knew as Braun went up 3rd, got a hit, and was called out after Baker appealed it.

Ouch.

[LaBombo]

 

Did anybody hear a while ago Gladden say (slip out?) that teams have been calling about Vargas?

I know, negativity police, I will show myself out back of the game thread and to the discussion boards.....

[Hosken Bombo Disco]

E-5 learning curve in progress

 

And then Sano catches a pop up.

 

That's using your head!

[LaBombo]

 

Manager switched Braun and Lucroy in the lineup. Apparently neither of them knew as Braun went up 3rd, got a hit, and was called out after Baker appealed it.

Taking the needless out is bad enough, but getting 'out-managed' by Dusty 'walks are bad' Baker... ouch.

 

http://www.famousbirthdays.com/thumbnails/baker-dusty-large.jpg

Edited July 4, 2016 by LaBombo

[Don Walcott]

Twins have the most errors in the league this year. Even though it's a flawed stat, it does say something in this case.

[Hosken Bombo Disco]

Manager switched Braun and Lucroy in the lineup. Apparently neither of them knew as Braun went up 3rd, got a hit, and was called out after Baker appealed it.

And since the manager is usually closest to the lineup card in the dugout, and could have said something when Braun went up to the on deck circle, the manager apparently forgot that he switched them, too. Great job all around!

[Hosken Bombo Disco]

Rosario!

[SwainZag]

Let's keep it going Robbie!

[Hosken Bombo Disco]

Managerial machinations....

[Hosken Bombo Disco]

Great base on balls by Grossman but this is where you really want a fast runner on first base

[Hosken Bombo Disco]

Good game

Edited July 4, 2016 by Hosken Bombo Disco

[LaBombo]

Raise your hand if you'd have been shocked if this Twins outfit had saved its most exciting comeback win for one of a dozen games that's not on TV this year...

 

 

Edited July 4, 2016 by LaBombo

[Aggies7]

Whyyyyy was Santana allowed to hit in a situation like that again?

[diehardtwinsfan]

 

Rosario swings at ball 4 and hits a rapper to first. . . . Baby steps?

 

Depends on which rapper he hit and how hard. 

[SwainZag]

 

Whyyyyy was Santana allowed to hit in a situation like that again?

 

I suppose they could have used Suzuki, he's been swinging a hot bat

[LaBombo]

 

Whyyyyy was Santana allowed to hit in a situation like that again?

Because stats be damned, he LOOKS like a ballplayer! Rob Antony's hunches are like gold when it comes to player valuations...

Edited July 4, 2016 by LaBombo

[Kwak]

 

Where is Buxton?

On the way to AAA to make room for May?

Buxton on the bench leads to Oakland's third run--Santana can't throw straight from the OF to save his soul.