Scalia is dead

[DaveW]

"Hopefully it wasn't a murder"??

 

JHFC.

 

You are upset about the tone of a thread on Twins Daily, but ok with Senate Republicans politicizing it hours after his death?

 

And now you're pimping National Enquirer.

 

Holy cow.

 

EDIT: I stand corrected...National Enquirer would be too respected. WorldNetDaily.

I think trump did it on behalf of Hilary personally!

[Craig Arko]

I think trump did it on behalf of Hilary personally!

Since it's already been established that Trump is a Democrat.

 

Kind of a Donkey Ninja.

[twinsnorth49]

 

I'm just going by the words of the guy who found him.  I'm not qualified to tell you what that means, but I do expect those who are to deal with that detail.  Maybe the guy is a moron for stating it that way I have no clue. 

This is the same story that appeared in the Washington Post.

 

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/ct-supreme-court-scalia-dead-20160214-story.html

 

This point seems to contradict your statement, and perhaps the reliability of your source.

 

Poindexter and one other person knocked on his room door, didn't get an answer, and went inside.

"Everything was in perfect order. He was in his pajamas, peacefully, in bed," Poindexter said, adding that Scalia had been his usual affable self at the ranch and that "his behavior was entirely natural and normal.''

 

 

Do you work for Fox News by any chance?

[DaveW]

It's been awhile since I killed someone in there sleep. But if one were to, why would they leave the pillow on top of him when they were finished?

[Hosken Bombo Disco]

If finding him with a pillow over his head is not worthy of any further investigation then it can be better explained.  I assume you were unaware of that detail but this is a mess.  Maybe it's time to stop spiking the football.

Where did you hear that detail? Is it being repeated on a talk radio show?

[Mike Sixel]

 

Probably going to need to investigate the cause of death a lot further. This is a mess hopefully it wasn't a murder but this is a problem for the president.

 

Is this a real post? Like, you think Obama had him killed?

 

people die all the time. What a sad state of affairs that some people just assume the worst all the time. 

[Squirrel]

Is this a real post? Like, you think Obama had him killed?

 

people die all the time. What a sad state of affairs that some people just assume the worst all the time.

 

It's right wing garbage in the effort to delay the nomination process because they know there is no real justification to do it in the Senate or it potentially costs them votes and seats. They don't want Obama to begin the process at all. Everything I've read about his death from credible news sources said he died of natural causes and that there was no foul play involved. And any reports otherwise from other sources just shows you the lack of real journalism I media that it's about entertainment and not news.

[Mike Sixel]

Thou shalt not lie, except to get elected and control the government.......I don't recall that part being in there, yet, it must be.

[Craig Arko]

Thou shalt not lie, except to get elected and control the government.......I don't recall that part being in there, yet, it must be.

Lying is good business. Just ask the people in Flint.

[mikecgrimes]

 

It's right wing garbage in the effort to delay the nomination process because they know there is no real justification to do it in the Senate or it potentially costs them votes and seats. They don't want Obama to begin the process at all. Everything I've read about his death from credible news sources said he died of natural causes and that there was no foul play involved. And any reports otherwise from other sources just shows you the lack of real journalism I media that it's about entertainment and not news.

 

Well the guy exists who either did say this or didn't.  It would be real simple to clear this up wouldn't it.  Ignoring it when you know for certain it didn't happen seems a little bit silly.  I suppose when your still spiking the football and celebrating stuff like this isn't very fun.

[Craig Arko]

Well the guy exists who either did say this or didn't. 

As far as I can tell, you're the guy who said (or didn't say) this? Which is it?

[Craig Arko]

Huh well I didn't happen to find his body.  I forget you people are still able to ignore the facts in Bengahzi.  What difference does it make how the body was found?

"You people," huh? Okay.

 

I'm guessing it would make a difference to the FBI how the body was found. Possibly the DHS. You know, those people.

[USAFChief]

!

 

Let the record show the title of this thread remains disrespectful

Nice dodge.

 

As to the topic, Here's noted left wing outlet Fox News:

 

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/02/15/in-complete-repose-scalia-died-natural-causes-investigators-say.html

 

The "pillowcase" and "murder" crap are only found on the likes of WorldNetDaily.

 

You know what's really disrespectful to the Scalia family? People fabricating crap like this. And the Republicans in the Senate politicizing his death before his body was cold.

 

THAT's what is disgusting.

[ashbury]

Moderator's note: the trolling and personal accusations have gotten out of hand. Political threads in the Sports Bar receive a little more leeway than most, but please keep the discussion an actual discussion, and stop escalating. Everyone.

[TheLeviathan]

Well, you should probably fact check something you found on WorldNetDaily and not start tossing conspiracies out.  Nobody, his family included, think there was any foul play.  So I think the investigation efforts end there.

 

What isn't ending is the despicable manner in which Republicans are handling this.  Give Kasich credit, he at least admitted he'd do what Obama is now if the situation was reversed.  And when the situation was reversed (towards the end of the Bush years) the Republicans DID exactly that with other appointees.

 

Frankly, if the Republicans push hard on this, it may be the end of my consideration for voting for them for a long time.  As of now, I still keep that option open for good candidates.

[USAFChief]

Well, you should probably fact check something you found on WorldNetDaily and not start tossing conspiracies out. Nobody, his family included, think there was any foul play. So I think the investigation efforts end there.

 

What isn't ending is the despicable manner in which Republicans are handling this. Give Kasich credit, he at least admitted he'd do what Obama is now if the situation was reversed. And when the situation was reversed (towards the end of the Bush years) the Republicans DID exactly that with other appointees.

 

Frankly, if the Republicans push hard on this, it may be the end of my consideration for voting for them for a long time. As of now, I still keep that option open for good candidates.

The longest time in history with an unfilled SCOTUS seat: 135 days ( 4.5 months -- from seat opens until nominee confirmed.)

 

Obama has 11 months left in office. 8 months till the election. 6 months till conventions.

 

What is it that Obama would be "doing" by nominating? Fulfilling constitutional obligations?

[mikecgrimes]

Quick question what was Senator Obama's position on filibustering a nomination? What law did Democrats try to pass in 1960 regarding election year vacancies? And why was Bork denied?

[DaveW]

 

Quick question what was Senator Obama's position on filibustering a nomination?  What law did Democrats try to pass in 1960 regarding election year vacancies?  And why was Bork denied?

None of this is relevant.

[Mike Sixel]

 

Quick question what was Senator Obama's position on filibustering a nomination?  What law did Democrats try to pass in 1960 regarding election year vacancies?  And why was Bork denied?

 

Two wrongs make a right? Do you think the Senate should approve a qualified candidate, or not? Or, does it matter to you what liberals think on the topic?

[DaveW]

 

 

The longest time in history with an unfilled SCOTUS seat: 135 days ( 4.5 months -- from seat opens until nominee confirmed.)

Obama has 11 months left in office. 8 months till the election. 6 months till conventions.

What is it that Obama would be "doing" by nominating? Fulfilling constitutional obligations?

My favorite bit is Cruz saying "the American people should have a voice in this"

 

Yeah, the American people did and DO have a voice in this, they voted Obama into the white house TWICE! Literally the guy that the people voted in now is able to do the job they voted him in for. I also think that them calling Obama a "lame duck" at this stage is a bit insulting, Obama isn't a one term president, he won both elections by a pretty good margin, a successor hasn't been named yet and he still has almost 12% of his presidency left, he isn't a lame duck!

[mikecgrimes]

 

Two wrongs make a right? Do you think the Senate should approve a qualified candidate, or not? Or, does it matter to you what liberals think on the topic?

 

So in other words you want a 9-0 court?  I'm fine with a 5-4 court.  Democrats have a good chance to win the election.  It must be nice to be a Democrat where the rules don't apply.

[mikecgrimes]

 

 

My favorite bit is Cruz saying "the American people should have a voice in this"

 

Yeah, the American people did and DO have a voice in this, they voted Obama into the white house TWICE! Literally the guy that the people voted in now is able to do the job they voted him in for. I also think that them calling Obama a "lame duck" at this stage is a bit insulting, Obama isn't a one term president, he won both elections by a pretty good margin, a successor hasn't been named yet and he still has almost 12% of his presidency left, he isn't a lame duck!

 

And we also voted for a Republican Senate.  And by the way we should play politics with this.  This will decide the direction of the country far more then the election.  There was a time when the games weren't played on these things, but if you let the other side get away with it and never do it yourself it's clear what the end result will be.

[Mike Sixel]

 

So in other words you want a 9-0 court?  I'm fine with a 5-4 court.  Democrats have a good chance to win the election.  It must be nice to be a Democrat where the rules don't apply.

 

Where did I say that? When there is an opening, I want the President to nominate a qualified candidate, and the Senate to confirm that candidate.

 

NO PLACE did I say ANYTHING about the makeup of the court.

 

Yes or no, if Obama nominates a qualified candidate, should the Senate confirm her/him?

[Mike Sixel]

 

And we also voted for a Republican Senate.  And by the way we should play politics with this.  This will decide the direction of the country far more then the election.  There was a time when the games weren't played on these things, but if you let the other side get away with it and never do it yourself it's clear what the end result will be.

 

Get away with what? Nominating people to the judiciary that are qualified for that role? 

[mikecgrimes]

When yo

 

Where did I say that? When there is an opening, I want the President to nominate a qualified candidate, and the Senate to confirm that candidate.

 

NO PLACE did I say ANYTHING about the makeup of the court.

 

Yes or no, if Obama nominates a qualified candidate, should the Senate confirm her/him?

 

I get it but at the same time you are saying it when your guy is in the White House, and don't want to even consider how these things have been handled by that same president when he was on the other side.  The Republicans have the power to do what they want and they might use it, if they don't it will become a 8-1 or 9-0 court before I die unless Democrats stop playing games too.

[Mike Sixel]

I disagreed with Democrats blocking qualified appointees when Reagan and Bush were president. I think this creates a horrible self-fulfilling prophecy of making government less effective and efficient.

 

yes or no, should the Senate approve a qualified candidate, or not?

[mikecgrimes]

 

Where did I say that? When there is an opening, I want the President to nominate a qualified candidate, and the Senate to confirm that candidate.

 

NO PLACE did I say ANYTHING about the makeup of the court.

 

Yes or no, if Obama nominates a qualified candidate, should the Senate confirm her/him?

 

I think the founders made the rules the way they were to make sure politics could come into play when needed.  For the first 180 years of our history the process went the way you now want it to go.  Then politics came into play.  Since the question is about a specific president who decided the answer was no I'll give this answer.  If they feel like it.

[Mike Sixel]

 

I think the founders made the rules the way they were to make sure politics could come into play when needed.  For the first 180 years of our history the process went the way you now want it to go.  Then politics came into play.  Since the question is about a specific president who decided the answer was no I'll give this answer.  If they feel like it.

 

yes, or no, should the Senate approve a qualified candidate? Say, a moderate one? Or a liberal one?

 

If a Democrat wins the next Presidency, should the Senate just leave the spot vacant, then?

[biggentleben]

This thread is just...wow, and not in a good way.

[Mike Sixel]

 

I think the founders made the rules the way they were to make sure politics could come into play when needed.  For the first 180 years of our history the process went the way you now want it to go.  Then politics came into play.  Since the question is about a specific president who decided the answer was no I'll give this answer.  If they feel like it.

 

I think this is a perfectly valid belief....which I meant to type in the previous reply, but forgot.