Trevor May - Future All Star

[diehardtwinsfan]

According to John Sickles at least.  That's his prediction for Mr. May.  I like the way he thinks.

 

http://www.minorleagueball.com/2015/9/28/9409909/unsubstantiated-prediction-trevor-may-will-be-an-all-star-starter

 

I really hope the Twins find some room for him in the rotation next season.  I think they need to trade Milone and let Duffey function as the AAA/6th starter role (especially since I don't think they can hold Berrios down all season next year) and pray Nolasco gets enough value to be traded at the deadline. 

[DaveW]

 

According to John Sickles at least.  That's his prediction for Mr. May.  I like the way he thinks.

 

http://www.minorleagueball.com/2015/9/28/9409909/unsubstantiated-prediction-trevor-may-will-be-an-all-star-starter

 

I really hope the Twins find some room for him in the rotation next season.  I think they need to trade Milone and let Duffey function as the AAA/6th starter role (especially since I don't think they can hold Berrios down all season next year) and pray Nolasco gets enough value to be traded at the deadline. 

I'm sorry, but I don't understand this Duffey as the AAA/6th starter stuff that is floating around. 

Since his first start:

8 starts

Twins are 7-1

2.17 ERA

.639 OPS against

46 k in 49 inning pitched.

Duffey is likely the Twins best pitcher the last couple months, he should be penciled into the rotation in 2016. I like May, but there is no reason why Duffey should be taken out of the rotation in favor of May at this point.

 

I'd prefer they trade one of Gibson/Nolasco/Milone to open up spots for guys like May and Berrios earlier, but this "Duffey as a depth guy" really leaves me perplexed.

[diehardtwinsfan]

I think May is better than Duffey.  Duffey has done well, and I agree that if this is sustained he's starting somewhere, but with options left, having Duffey as a 6th starter in 2016 is not bad.  He will pitch plenty in that scenario.  If you trade Gibson and Milone (which I'm not against for the right returns, but it does hurt depth) you are counting on Berrios being very good in his debut or Meyer to suddenly figure it out.  Those are definitely decent depth options, but that's also a very realistic scenario where the Twins are suddenly looking for SP help at the deadline should the injury bug bite or Berrios doesn't light up MLB. 

[DaveW]

For years we have been praying for a guy who can strike out close to a guy an inning in the starting rotation, now we finally have one, and we want to ship him down to the minors because he has options remaining?

 

I like May, but to say he is better than Duffey is odd to me, May's career minor league ERA 3.90, May's career Major League ERA: 5.16

I know there is more to the story, and I would like May in the rotation, but not at the expense of Duffey who has done nothing short of pitched amazing down the stretch for this team.

[nicksaviking]

"That said, I feel like an optimist today and will make an Unsubstantiated Prediction: two of Minnesota's starters will get hurt in spring training next year,"

 

What the heck Sickles!? Some things you just think, but should never say out loud.  Cheering for injuries is one of them.

[DaveW]

Pelfrey (On a minor league deal)

Nolasco

 

those will be the two

[IndyTwinsFan]

I think that Duffey certainly has earned an opportunity to compete for a starting spot next season.   I'm a little leery of penciling him in quite yet, primarily because none of us knows for sure if what we've seen thus far can be sustained going into next season.   There's also the question regarding how the rest of the candidates shake out.   Specifically, what, if anything, happens during the offseason or early in spring training with Nolasco, Millone, and Gibson will have a bearing on this.   Pelfrey does not appear to be a concern at this time, even though he has apparently stated that he wouldn't mind coming back, but understands the situation..

[JaleelWhite FanClub]

This thread has veered off the road. Look at what we're doing? We're arguing between Duffey & May, two young arms that have come up through the system and performed well with the Twins. We've lost the forest through the trees. How about May & Duffey both in the rotation and Pelfrey, Nolasco, Milone gone?

[BK432]

That Duffey curve bites hard - I've seen enough to believe he has earned an extended shot. I won't be offended if he has to start at AAA next year, but he should get plenty of opportunity for an extended assignment in the big league rotation next year. Count me as a believer that he has a chance at a decently long MLB career.

[BK432]

 

This thread has veered off the road. Look at what we're doing? We're arguing between Duffey & May, two young arms that have come up through the system and performed well with the Twins. We've lost the forest through the trees. How about May & Duffey both in the rotation and Pelfrey, Nolasco, Milone gone?

 

This is a good point. So I come back to the point of the article. Trevor May has done a ton to help stabilize the bullpen and has performed very well. So it's worked out well. But he belongs in the rotation. That's where, for the most part, your best pitchers go. Go out and find some bullpen options in FA. Promote those worthy from within. Build a strong 'pen and get May back to starting games.

[dxpavelka]

I see 2016 Trevor May as 2002 Johan Santana.  Spend the regular season splitting time between the rotation & the pen but come playoff time (sorry, but KC has another banner regular season & we make a Wild Card Game appearance--hopefully in a hosting role) Molly & Allensie look up and down the staff and come to the realization that the one guy who has the stuff that gives you the best chance to win a 1 game series is May.  If the ensueing 5 years are anywhere close to Santana we'll all be ecstatic.

[jimbo92107]

Santana, Gibson, Duffey, May, Berrios. That should be your starting five next season. Imagine five starters all capable of going at or close to 200 innings apiece. At that point, you can have your veterans Hughes, Pelfrey, Nolasco and Milone in the bull pen, where they can carefully dole out their remaining bullets while providing spot starts or long relief better than any other pen in the league.

 

As long as the starters are careful to minimize their angular parallax at release, the sky's the limit for next season. That plus maximizing spherical rotational velocity, of course. And post game dance parties.

[Craig Arko]

I wouldn't quite count Meyer out yet, either. Close, but he'll get one more chance to grab on, I think.

[nytwinsfan]

Not sure about an All-Star (although he certainly has the stuff for that potential), but sure as heck should be given a chance to start next year if he's 100% healthy.

[jokin]

 

I wouldn't quite count Meyer out yet, either. Close, but he'll get one more chance to grab on, I think.

 

Look for him to be starting- but for the Pirates- by 2017.

[jokin]

 

Not sure about an All-Star (although he certainly has the stuff for that potential), but sure as heck should be given a chance to start next year if he's 100% healthy.

 

I haven't had time to read the article, but based on how the Twins tend to operate, it sure appears that the auto-default position for who's who in the depth rotation hierarchy, is to defer to the expensive veterans.  Which means Santana, Hughes, Nolasco and Milone are going to start until their arms fall off- or if Ryan can somehow pull off a trade.  And that also means that May and Duffey are going into 2016 fighting with Gibson for the #5 spot and the #6 and #7 depth spots, with Berrios likely to leapfrog all of them by the month of May., plus the possible resurrection of Meyer. The easiest veteran to trade would of course, be Milone. That would then mean 4 deserving young arms (plus Meyer makes 5) for two starting spots  But that would also mean no LHSP presence for the Twins, plus ,would they get decent value in return for Milone to satisfy gun-shy Ryan in pulling the trigger?

 

I'm guessing that Ryan will stand pat after being low-balled at the Winter Meetings- and then "The Plan"  for 2016 will be to hope to move Nolasco and Milone in-season after they've built up their value.

[diehardtwinsfan]

 

For years we have been praying for a guy who can strike out close to a guy an inning in the starting rotation, now we finally have one, and we want to ship him down to the minors because he has options remaining?

 

I like May, but to say he is better than Duffey is odd to me, May's career minor league ERA 3.90, May's career Major League ERA: 5.16

I know there is more to the story, and I would like May in the rotation, but not at the expense of Duffey who has done nothing short of pitched amazing down the stretch for this team.

 

May strikes out more guys than Duffey, just saying (at least in terms of K/9 where both his major and minor league numbers are better)...  Like I said earlier, I'm not against sending both Gibson and Milone or (Nolasco and Milone if by chance someone wants Nolasco) out of town to get both of them in the rotation, but there is merit to having pitching depth.  It will most certainly be called upon during the year.  It isn't like Duffey won't be pitching in Minnesota at some point in that scenario, and it's quite likely that both Berrios and Meyer will have an opportunity at some point in 2016 as well.

[diehardtwinsfan]

 

Santana, Gibson, Duffey, May, Berrios. That should be your starting five next season. Imagine five starters all capable of going at or close to 200 innings apiece. At that point, you can have your veterans Hughes, Pelfrey, Nolasco and Milone in the bull pen, where they can carefully dole out their remaining bullets while providing spot starts or long relief better than any other pen in the league.

 

As long as the starters are careful to minimize their angular parallax at release, the sky's the limit for next season. That plus maximizing spherical rotational velocity, of course. And post game dance parties.

 

Given the way Nolasco has played, I could see that, but no way Hughes starts in the pen.  Berrios will (barring massive injuries) almost certainly start 2016 in Rochester, especially given that he doesn't need to be a 40 man add this offseason.  I really hope TR can get some value for Milone.  Don't want much.  Give me a good back end bullpen arm that has two years of control left and I'm happy.  I'd think Milone could fetch that. 

[Loosey]

Duffey deserves to be penciled in.  The good thing about pencil is it can be erased if a mistake was made.

 

Regarding May, why not give him his fair shot to be a starter again.  If he struggles or is only decent and the bullpen needs an arm and Berrios is doing his thing in the month of May then move him back to the pen.

 

My Rotation would hopefully look something like this:

 

Santana

Hughes

Gibson

May

Duffey

 

Pelfrey - Gone

Nolasco - Possible Trade

Milone- Possible Trade

Berrios - AAA to start season

 

Basically the Twins will have 8 guys competing for 5 spots. But really they will have 6 guys competing for 3 spots since Hughes and Santana are locked in due to salary obligations and the Twins will never ignore salary = playing time.