Pelfrey's Last Stand?

[DaveW]

I hope so, guy did solid by the twins this year in the rotation, but I think it's abundantly clear its time to put May back in the rotation and see what Pelf can do in the pen for us. He hasn't had meltdowns each start, but his last 8 or so starts I feel have ranged from mediocre to below average overall.

 

Still can be a nice spot starter for us if need be as well.

 

Free May!

[SwainZag]

Please. Please. 

 

Free May!

[Brock Beauchamp]

Yep. Time for May to go back into the rotation.

[twinsnorth49]

Seemingly obvious to everyone but TR and Molly.

[DaveW]

I said before the season that I thought Pelf could be a real nice guy in the pen, I bet his fastball could hit 94/95 and has a decent enough second pitch to be effective. He wasn't pumped earlier in the year to be put in the pen, hopefully his attitude on that has changed. Especially since either way one team will likely give him a shot at being a starter next year.

[DaveW]

Seemingly obvious to everyone but TR and Molly.

Is it TRs call even? I feel like it's more Molly's call. It's odd, Molly seems to trust the youngsters in the lineup but no trust in the youngsters in the rotation or pen. Wonder if Neil Allen is behind it a bit?

[Mike Sixel]

They don't trust young pitchers......and yes, it is time.

[twinsnorth49]

Is it TRs call even? I feel like it's more Molly's call. It's odd, Molly seems to trust the youngsters in the lineup but no trust in the youngsters in the rotation or pen. Wonder if Neil Allen is behind it a bit?

I don't know whether TR is involved but it smells a little like he has influence in it. Molly isn't responsible for the reluctance to bring the young guys up from the farm though, that's TR.

[DocBauer]

May never should have been taken out. But it's time to put him back. He not only represents the future...where Pelfrey doesn't...but he very likely was the best SP in the rotation at the time of the move.

 

Very, very short sighted to appease a solid, but nonetheless mediocre, veteran who doesn't have a future with your club over a high talent, high performance youngster because....because....because...

[Danchat]

It's obvious Pelfrey needs to leave the rotation. What's not so obvious is what happens afterward. Do we transition him to the bullpen? Or do you trade him for peanuts? I'd do the former.

[Old Twins Cap]

If somebody wants him, trade him for a reliever.  The reliever goes to the Pen, May to the rotation.  It's pretty simple.  We lose Pelfrey in two months anyway.  If we trade him, we get a possible useable piece.

 

It feels like Twins FO are more dumbfounded by success than the bloggers and are so stupified they can't make any moves.

[howeda7]

From your lips to God's ears. As bad as Pelf is at times, he might our best righty in the BP .(hopefully only until Friday).

[Hosken Bombo Disco]

Is it TRs call even? I feel like it's more Molly's call. It's odd, Molly seems to trust the youngsters in the lineup but no trust in the youngsters in the rotation or pen. Wonder if Neil Allen is behind it a bit?

It would be nice to know, but the media here is weak. If this was the NY or Philly market (I'm glad it's not, but) if it was, the heat would be on high for several of these questions. Ryan and Molitor don't realize how easy they have it.

[drjim]

It would be nice to know, but the media here is weak. If this was the NY or Philly market (I'm glad it's not, but) if it was, the heat would be on high for several of these questions. Ryan and Molitor don't realize how easy they have it.

You don't think they feel the immense pressure of Twins Daily?

[howeda7]

It feels like TR could be here another 10 years, make 0 play-offs and get zero heat. It's frustrating for anyone who was watching the Twins before 2001.

It would be nice to know, but the media here is weak. If this was the NY or Philly market (I'm glad it's not, but) if it was, the heat would be on high for several of these questions. Ryan and Molitor don't realize how easy they have it.

 

[Hosken Bombo Disco]

You don't think they feel the immense pressure of Twins Daily?

Heh, this might be the best Twins coverage in the market. Does TD have pool credentials?

[Kwak]

To tell you the truth, because of Monday's off day I thought the Twins would bypass Pelfrey to keep everyone on the same regimen of pitching every 5th day (except Pelfrey!).  

[jimmer]

 

It feels like TR could be here another 10 years, make 0 play-offs and get zero heat. It's frustrating for anyone who was watching the Twins before 2001.

when Ryan took over for MacPhail it only took eight seasons for the Twins to make the playoffs.  Ten MIGHT be the limit :-)

[howeda7]

 

when Ryan took over for MacPhail it only took eight seasons for the Twins to make the playoffs.  Ten MIGHT be the limit :-)

You didn't enjoy watching Rich Becker, Scott Stahoviak and Matt Walbeck? They were top prospects!

[drjim]

It feels like TR could be here another 10 years, make 0 play-offs and get zero heat. It's frustrating for anyone who was watching the Twins before 2001.

You should expand your media consumption.

[howeda7]

 

You should expand your media consumption.

Granted I am referring to the mainstream TC media. A blog/site read only by diehards doesn't generate much heat...

[drjim]

Granted I am referring to the mainstream TC media. A blog/site read only by diehards doesn't generate much heat...

I was thinking more talk radio.

 

Part of the "problem" is that Twin Cities market just doesn't support enough alternatives and there isn't as much of an incentive to take extremely critical positions to really differentiate from as many competitors.

[scottz]

I don't know what everyone is so upset about. May is finally being used in high-leverage situations like tonight when they were down 7-3. Get him up, get him loose, and get him in the game - 2 pitches, 1 out, night over. Boom. High-leverage. Kept the team in the game and the next thing you know, it's 7-7. High-freaking-leverage.

 

Keep him right where he is - there are bound to be more games when we're down 7-3 in the 8th and we need somebody for a single out. A single high-leverage out. High-leverage May - that's what we should call him.

[SwainZag]

 

I don't know what everyone is so upset about. May is finally being used in high-leverage situations like tonight when they were down 7-3. Get him up, get him loose, and get him in the game - 2 pitches, 1 out, night over. Boom. High-leverage. Kept the team in the game and the next thing you know, it's 7-7. High-freaking-leverage.

 

Keep him right where he is - there are bound to be more games when we're down 7-3 in the 8th and we need somebody for a single out. A single high-leverage out. High-leverage May - that's what we should call him.

 

I would say because he has more value as a starter and that Pelfrey has not been good over his last 6-8 starts.  

[jimmer]

 

I would say because he has more value as a starter and that Pelfrey has not been good over his last 6-8 starts.  

PRETTY sure that post you responded to was pure sarcasm. I'm guessing he agrees with you.

[Mike Sixel]

Pelfrey is not now a MLB quality SP. 2010 was his last truly good year. 2010........the Twins need to get over themselves, and put May in the rotation (or Berrios).

[scottz]

 

PRETTY sure that post you responded to was pure sarcasm. I'm guessing he agrees with you.

 

I cannot tell a lie. It was sarcasm.

 

I'll try to lay it on thicker next time. I thought I had exceeded sarcasm thickness standards for effective sarcasm operation, but I will check the sarcasm manual.

 

Free High-Leverage May!

[jimmer]

 

I cannot tell a lie. It was sarcasm.

 

I'll try to lay it on thicker next time. I thought I had exceeded sarcasm thickness standards for effective sarcasm operation, but I will check the sarcasm manual.

 

Free High-Leverage May!

Oh, it was plenty thick.  You did well :-)

[ShouldaCouldaWoulda]

I can't imagine any legitimate defense for running Palfrey out there for another start. I know some have stated that he was still being used as a SP because the Twins were hoping to build his trade value. But, do you really think another team believes him to be a big league valuable SP?

 

I mean, most us Twins fans didn't even buy his ride of success, and have been wishing for him to be out out of the rotation for quiet some time. If the majority (I would hope) think that way, why would any front office want Pelfrey? If the Twins think they were being smart, well their game theory skill are not very good, and they are wasting spots and doing this wrong.

 

Someone in another thread used a line something like that the Twins seem to "be extremely slow to make the extremely obvious moves." This is true here.

[REPETE]

Wasn't part of the reason moving May to the bullpen was to also "limit his innings"?  

I agree Pelfrey isn't great, but the rest of the league knows that, too, so trading him isn't going to bring much back in return, probably not even a so-so setup guy.