Parker Hageman Site Manager Posted June 29, 2012 Posted June 29, 2012 ESPN.com's Jerry Crasnick reports that the Twins and Ryan Doumit are close to a multi-year deal. 1500ESPN.com's Darren Wolfson says that the deal will be for two additional seasons. UPDATE: Wolfson says it's a two year, $7 million deal. What do you think of this decision?
Pius Jefferson Verified Member Posted June 29, 2012 Posted June 29, 2012 What would he be worth on the trade market?
Highabove Provisional Member Posted June 29, 2012 Posted June 29, 2012 Ryan probably feels that Doumit will give the Team flexibly on how they use Mauer.
Brock Beauchamp Site Manager Posted June 29, 2012 Posted June 29, 2012 Absolutely. This is the way it should be done. Either get him locked up now or ship him off somewhere at the deadline. Well played, JR.
greengoblinrulz Provisional Member Posted June 29, 2012 Posted June 29, 2012 you cant trade everyone.....Doumit fits an absolute need. Of course, we still need to keep a backup C to keep Gardys nerves settled.
Jeremy Nygaard Twins Daily Contributor Posted June 29, 2012 Posted June 29, 2012 From the moment he signed, I thought he was a great stop-gap combo player with Mauer, in that he had a good switch-hitting bat and could play 1B or RF also. I was really hoping he'd be able to offer more in terms of defensive versatility, but for $3m he's been a bargain. It will be interesting to see how long of an extention he signs, given that I thought Chris Herrmann, part-time C/part-time OF, would be a perfect compliment to the $23m/year man. I'll hold off forming an opinion til we know the figures.
Boom Boom Verified Member Posted June 29, 2012 Posted June 29, 2012 Doumit's a decent hitter, but I've not been impressed with his catching ability. And he's not that great of a hitter that I'd like him as a regular DH, either. As a backup he's fine. I'd have to see the details before getting worked up over this.
Badsmerf Verified Member Posted June 29, 2012 Posted June 29, 2012 This would be a good move for the Twins. I like having a back-up catcher that can actually hit.
twinswon1991 Provisional Member Posted June 29, 2012 Posted June 29, 2012 If a weak hitting catcher that cant stay healthy or behind the plate for that matter is worth 23 mil per year what is Doumit worth? I'd say a 4 year deal at 50 mil per is about right. I hope this is a precursor to a Mauer salary dump trade or is his deal so bad you couldn't give him away?
DaveW Old-Timey Member Posted June 29, 2012 Posted June 29, 2012 If a weak hitting catcher that cant stay healthy or behind the plate for that matter is worth 23 mil per year what is Doumit worth? I'd say a 4 year deal at 50 mil per is about right. I hope this is a precursor to a Mauer salary dump trade or is his deal so bad you couldn't give him away?Dankind? Is that you?
mnfireman Verified Member Posted June 29, 2012 Posted June 29, 2012 Mauer may not be "worth" $23 M per but who really is? It was what the market would have dictated had he been allowed to test the FA waters. And with 2009 being the exception, he is right around his career slash numbers. He has been fairly healthy this season and productive. Signing Doumit is a good idea in my view, he is putting up almost exactly his career splits and he's not so horrible that 1 or 2 days behind the plate hurt the team. Now if this was about Butera.....
Seth Stohs Site Manager Posted June 29, 2012 Posted June 29, 2012 I like Doumit and because of their flexibility it still shouldn't affect Chris Herrmann. Mauer can catch, DH and play 1B. Herrmann can catch and play LF and RF well. Doumit can catch and DH.
Badsmerf Verified Member Posted June 29, 2012 Posted June 29, 2012 I like Doumit and because of their flexibility it still shouldn't affect Chris Herrmann. Mauer can catch, DH and play 1B. Herrmann can catch and play LF and RF well. Doumit can catch and DH.Who? On the ESPN roster I see no Chris Herrmann... Just kidding. I don't think you should be worried about Chris Herrmann demanding playing time in Minnesota.
DaveW Old-Timey Member Posted June 29, 2012 Posted June 29, 2012 Who? On the ESPN roster I see no Chris Herrmann... Just kidding. I don't think you should be worried about Chris Herrmann demanding playing time in Minnesota.Yeah, if he makes it up in 2013 its a good problem to have. Plus if Span is traded suddenly the RF position opens again which Doumit could help fill. Ideally you have a guy like Arcia/Hicks or Benson step up next season....but in the case of Benson and Hicks things don't look very positive for them to be impact players in 2013, Arcia is the wild card I imagine, and if that is the case you simply play Doumit as DH. (Assuming Herrmann is the back up catcher-unlikely)
wavedog Verified Member Posted June 29, 2012 Posted June 29, 2012 If its about for the same amount of money per year and for 2 years that would be ok. I like him fine as off the bench and as a spot fill-in hitter. He is certainly worth as much as Nishioka. Haha!
Seth Stohs Site Manager Posted June 29, 2012 Posted June 29, 2012 I agree that Herrmann isn't forcing himself onto the roster... and even if he was playing better this year, I just showed that it can still work... As pointed out above, there would still need to be a third catcher, and these three all provide some flexibility.
YourHouseIsMyHouse Provisional Member Posted June 29, 2012 Posted June 29, 2012 Well with three catchers on the roster in 2013 or 2014, there has to be NO WAY Butera makes the roster...right?!
wavedog Verified Member Posted June 29, 2012 Posted June 29, 2012 Looks like we signed him => 2 years and $7M - not bad.
Seth Stohs Site Manager Posted June 29, 2012 Posted June 29, 2012 Very reasonable contract... makes it really difficult to find any fault in it.
snepp Verified Member Posted June 29, 2012 Posted June 29, 2012 On the subject of backup catchers, has anyone noticed that The Greatest Defensive Catcher of All-Time will be super-2 eligible this offseason? I know I'm looking forward to the Twins paying a guy that can't OPS .500 a million dollars next season.
Jeremy Nygaard Twins Daily Contributor Posted June 29, 2012 Posted June 29, 2012 For $3.5m/year, I'll take it. Best Twins news since Monday.
Rosterman Verified Member Posted June 29, 2012 Posted June 29, 2012 As a stopgap when Mauer plays first and you need someone other than Butera behind-the-plate, yes. Assuming Morneau stays around for another year, then it looks like the beginning of this season all over again...with Parmelee in the mix you have four rotating in four spaces. A couple of years is fine. He would not be a fulltime catcher/1B/RF anywhere. And, folks, Hermann still has to make the 40-man and then still has four seasons before needing to be in the bigs fulltime. Who knows, maybe next year he will be the bench/third catcher guy.
DaveW Old-Timey Member Posted June 29, 2012 Posted June 29, 2012 On the subject of backup catchers, has anyone noticed that The Greatest Defensive Catcher of All-Time will be super-2 eligible this offseason? I know I'm looking forward to the Twins paying a guy that can't OPS .500 a million dollars next season.LOL (word limit)
DaveW Old-Timey Member Posted June 29, 2012 Posted June 29, 2012 For $3.5m/year, I'll take it. Best Twins news since Monday.Very good signing, immediately adds depth at an important position and a solid bat for the next two years. The Twins couldn't do any better on the upcoming FA market IMO.Now hopefully he can just stay healthy (knocks on wood)
greengoblinrulz Provisional Member Posted June 29, 2012 Posted June 29, 2012 On the subject of backup catchers, has anyone noticed that The Greatest Defensive Catcher of All-Time will be super-2 eligible this offseason? I know I'm looking forward to the Twins paying a guy that can't OPS .500 a million dollars next season.He's next to get a multi yr deal to buy out his arbitration.....or woulda been if Bill Smith was still here.
Thrylos Old-Timey Member Posted June 29, 2012 Posted June 29, 2012 Good deal. Now if they find a way to get rid of Butera...
YourHouseIsMyHouse Provisional Member Posted June 29, 2012 Posted June 29, 2012 On the subject of backup catchers, has anyone noticed that The Greatest Defensive Catcher of All-Time will be super-2 eligible this offseason? I know I'm looking forward to the Twins paying a guy that can't OPS .500 a million dollars next season.That certainly one-ups the news coming from the original post. Any ideas to what Pavano does without his partner in crime?
TKGuy Provisional Member Posted June 29, 2012 Posted June 29, 2012 Great deal, $3.5 million barely buys you any competent player who could be a free agent. It gives us lots of flexibility and doesn't harm our ability to get a competent SP or two.
chavez Provisional Member Posted June 29, 2012 Posted June 29, 2012 Maybe TR has something in the works to ship Morneau and this will help facilitate trading him and moving Maur to 1st base.
DaveW Old-Timey Member Posted June 29, 2012 Posted June 29, 2012 Signing Doumit to a 2 year deal is just like making a trade!
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