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Twins (Ryan) vs Cubs (Assad): 8/7/24, 1:20pm
KirbyDome89 replied to Brock Beauchamp's topic in Archived Game Threads
Is Festa a solid/reliable MLB starter now? Varland certainly isn't. The hope is that SWR can lock in a spot in the back half of the rotation. Ober is entrenched. Is that really a "pipeline?" SWR is the closest anybody has come to sticking in the last 3 years. Ober is the only other starting arm this FO has graduated since 2017. Again, is that really a "pipeline?" -
Twins (Ryan) vs Cubs (Assad): 8/7/24, 1:20pm
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Twins (Ryan) vs Cubs (Assad): 8/7/24, 1:20pm
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Quality vs. quantity is real. -
Twins (Ryan) vs Cubs (Assad): 8/7/24, 1:20pm
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I know the broadcast box isn't 100% accurate, but the only actual "miss," according to that box went Richards' way. Also, we're up to 2 wild pitches and 5 walks already. Idk how you expect to get any sort of borderline call when you're all over the place. -
Of course it can. I could buy into Detroit or Chicago asking for 80 cents on the dollar from the Twins rather than the 75 they pitched to other clubs, i.e. a throw in or something along those lines. I absolutely don't believe either of those clubs were wasting their own time on deadline day sending ridiculous offers to the Twins. The rivals narrative provides pretty convenient cover, and using a nebulous term like "premium," while floating a top prospect inquiry and doing nothing to better your own team reeks of damage control to me. Agreed, ultimately the self imposed limitations are what has continued to hamper this club.
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It (MN being bullied by rival teams) isn't an impossibility, I just see it as highly unlikely given what we know about the Twins and how they handled the offseason and the last 2 deadlines. I'm unsure how/why it would be fallacious to avoid giving the benefit of the doubt to a team that has shown zero desire to spend for a calendar year now. Did Chicago and Detroit collude to ensure the Twins got nothing at this deadline? At some point, if you can't get anything done with 29 other teams + FAs, you're the problem. Occam's razor right? Is it more likely that two rivals were simultaneously acting in a wildly incompetent manor, possibly colluding, and only chose to act this way with the Twins, or was the hometown team window shopping? I said it in another post, we just watched this organization trot Falvey out to ensure the masses that financial constraints had nothing to do with the deadline inactivity. Why anybody should take this organization "leaking," post deadline damage control seriously is beyond me.
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I don't understand how lowering the bar helps.
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Sure, GMs (PBOs) aren't above making poor decisions. Insisting on some bull**** offer is beyond stupid or old-timey. You aren't just throwing away a potentially top offer, and alienating one of a very limited number of trade partners, you're destroying your own professional reputation, and possibly reshaping how other clubs will conduct business with you. I believe it's legitimate in the sense that at some point those teams asked about high end prospects, and eventually the Twins weren't willing to spend what it would've actually cost to acquire either SP. That isn't remotely the same as Detroit or Chicago insisting on Jenkins in a swap. Also, was the rest of baseball charging the Twins a "premium," too? I think it's far more likely the Twins are leaking damage control than both divisional trade partners were behaving in wildly incompetent ways, especially since this same Twins team did essentially nothing with the other 27 teams across MLB.
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They literally just marched Falvey out to explain that financial constraints had nothing to do with the inactivity at the deadline. That seems equally insulting. Everybody gets to choose their level of investment in this team. I have no issue with fans being pissed about what's going on with this club after a very public reminder.
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Do you honestly believe Detroit was insistent on Jenkins or Lee headlining a deal for 2 months of Flaherty? I don't. I believe the Tigers asked about the price (any team looking to acquire prospects would) but I don't buy for one second that they were sabotaging negotiations and turning away a potentially viable (or best) offer. It's not exactly difficult for the Twins to feed the Jenkins/Lee inquiry to a media mouthpiece and suddenly that becomes the story. I don't view that reporting any differently than the "we were in on Player X until....." reports that flow out of 1 Twins Way during the offseason or other deadlines.
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So the Twins didn't march Provus out there to promote a streaming service, or at the very least give him the green light to speak about one? They didn't immediately ditch those plans and jump back in with Balley the second a new deal, with more up front money, materialized? Oh, and they're not culpable in any way for racing back into business with a company that was failing to make payments across baseball? Yeesh, point out the conspiracy..... The "spending other people's money," argument might have some merit if one of the richest ownership groups in MLB wasn't running this team like a poverty franchise. They pulled a bait-and-switch with the viewing options in order to make some extra $$, which they pocketed, while slashing payroll, and now we're supposed to shrug and let them off the hook because the bankrupt group they chose in the cash grab has ****ed up the broadcast situation? Some of you are so deep in the Pohlad pockets you can't tell up from down at this point....
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If you're a selling (rebuilding) team, why would not ask about the price of those prospects? Of course those names are brought up. Inquiry doesn't equal insistence... I think the Twins refusal to add salary is a much more "reasonable narrative," than Detroit purposely eliminating a potential suitor because they're afraid of Jack Flaherty in a Twins uniform for 2 months...
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This is how negotiations go; ask high and settle in the middle. I promise you the Twins are doing the same thing. Also, there's zero chance those swaps were 1 for 1. Detroit was asking from Brooks Lee for 2 months of Jack Flaherty. We saw what each of those guys returned. The Twins could've beat those packages without coming close to giving up any of the prospects named.
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Sure, streaming *potentially* wouldn't have been as lucrative, but we're talking about literal loose change for these ***holes making fiscal decisions. They talked up a streaming option during the offseason and the second a few more dollars were dangled in front of their faces they jumped back in bed with a company going bankrupt. It's asinine to think that Bally being pulled from Comcast's packages was some sort of shocking or unforeseen outcome. I mean c'mon. If you actually want to argue that Twins business gurus who negotiated that deal shouldn't be held accountable you're simply endorsing incompetence.
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What's "true improvement?" It's going to be awfully easy to spin deadline moves as not meeting such a moving target and subsequently let this ownership group off the hook.
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Dear Pohlads: Don't Do This
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Margot is about to post a July slash that's in line with his April and May. It was already pointed out, but he's not even an average defender in the corners, and he obviously can't play CF. He's still sitting at a negative WAR 2/3 of the way through the season. There's no reason this team needs to allocate a roster spot to that type of performance....
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Those 3 have lengthy injury histories at this point, so why is that being ignored?
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A healthy Correa? Sure, but that's not the point. The Twins were relying on more/better production from the above group sans Correa. There's real debate as to whether that was a great plan, but all 5 of the players listed had spot dedicated to them on the active roster.
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James Paxton DFA’d. Should we pick him up?
KirbyDome89 replied to Vanimal46's topic in Minnesota Twins Talk
Paxton would be this year's version of Dallas Keuchel; high traffic on the bases and no ability to generate outs himself. The trade deadline is one week from today, be proactive if you're serious about trying to upgrade your starting pitching.

