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Miguel Sano: Boom, Bust, or Both?
Trov replied to Ted Schwerzler 's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
What has always been most frustrating about Sano is his lack of growth over the years in the majors. He would have stretches of great production, and long slumps, but we always thought what if he just figures it out. Each year we would say this is his year. He would start off slow, but then pick up his numbers for awhile. He just never got to that next level of play. I always felt if he could have adopted a Miguel Cabrera type approach he would have been great. Not as good as Cabrera, but much better than what Sana has been. Sano had the power to drive ball out of all fields but for some reason always wanted to pull everything out. He would get overpowered by fastballs. I always felt if he would have been willing to drive the fastballs to right and turn on the off-speed stuff he would have been amazing. He would have stretches where he would do that and you would see homeruns to right. I also felt he never had a plan during his at bats. So many of the great hitters would have a plan, have a thought of how the pitcher wanted to pitch them. Sano always felt like he was a see ball hit ball mode and never thought I am going to look for pitch x in location x and swing. He never will be what we hoped, but he is still a MLB player, just may not be for us.- 34 replies
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Good article. I would say that I do not expect Coulombe to be a high leverage guy, but will be adequate to get some innings out of. The more he gets used the more teams will start to adjust their scouting report, much as you have pointed out. I am not going to expect Coulombe to be a lights out end of pen guy, but lets keep using him while he is doing well.
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Has Nick Gordon Proven His Worth to the Twins?
Trov replied to Cody Christie's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
I have always been a let Gordon play approach. He has always performed when healthy after adjusting to the level he was at. Will he be an all-star, no. But he could be a valuable utility guy. If not for us, for someone. I think he belongs in the majors and even if we do not keep him he will get time with some team. -
Is It Time to Start Worrying About Austin Martin?
Trov replied to Cody Christie's topic in Twins Minor League Talk
Martin has played just over a full season in the minors. To cast him as complete as a player is a little early. Jose Miranda did not hit for much power until last year. Kirby Puckett was not a power hitting guy until age 26 year. Jose Altuve was not a power guy until he hit double digit HR at age 25 season. Martin is still young and could develop power. It is very hard to teach the ability to take pitches and work counts, it is much easier to learn to hit for more power. Will he, not sure, but I would bet if he gets pitched down the middle fast balls all day he will make MLB pitchers pay for that. Also, again he was not the only player in the Berrios trade. I would also note Berrios is not doing all to well so far this season. -
How Long of a Leash Should Dylan Bundy Get?
Trov replied to Cody Pirkl's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
I do not want to see Bundy get regular starts for half a year if he keeps giving up 5 plus runs in 3 to 5 innings. However, we have needed 7 starting pitchers so far to not have a bullpen game yet. We may have some more that could step in, but to assume we can go a full season with just 5 guys is never going to happen. If everyone is healthy and Bundy keeps having dud starts, I would want to transition him to long relief role with emergency starts when needed. Paddock just went down with possible long term injury, more to come today on that. Winder is doing great in 2 starts but Bundy did great in 3 starts and we are talking about pulling him after 2 bad starts. There is no reason to think Winder will be like this all year, but there is no reason to think he will fully flop either, but the point is to just say lets cut Bundy because we have 6 other guys that could step in now is kind of crazy. Ober still out with injury, Gray just made it back. Bundy will stick with team for awhile. I just hope if he keeps putting up similar starts as last 2 he gets moved to pen unless needed in starting roll. When the other 6 guys are healthy each should get starts over Bundy if he keeps pitching like last 2. However, he had 3 great starts and 2 bad lets cut him some slack that teams may have made an adjustment to him, now can he adjust again.- 46 replies
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Twins 4, A's 3: Bullpen Completes Sweep of Oakland
Trov replied to Seth Stohs's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
The most recent stretch of games show how important having depth in the 40 man, and even a little more, is needed to win in a season. We are down several starters but still getting wins. Our pen has been solid, something people thought would be a dumpster fire this season coming into season. Our starters overall have been very good too, despite using 7 different starters so far.- 40 replies
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Is It Time to Start Worrying About Austin Martin?
Trov replied to Cody Christie's topic in Twins Minor League Talk
Your comment assumes that when he gets to MLB teams will just throw it right down the middle knowing it is unlikely he will hit HR. First, we do not know, unless you have been watching him, I just assume you have not, what kind of pitches he has seen and how he does on them. Maybe because he is one of better hitters at top of lineup he is getting pitched around with not much to really swing at. I liken him to Luis Arraez, I assume you must not think much of him as he does not hit for power either and teams do not walk him much, but he still has a career 375 OBP. Second, Martin was not the only one in the Berrios trade and the other guy has yet to give up a run in 21 innings pitched in AA this year. -
Ryan Jeffers is a Top Ten Catcher
Trov replied to Jamie Cameron's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
The stat of CS% does not mean a catcher is bad at throwing runners out per se. As the quote in article says he is 1 for 5. Not sure the 4 that were made against him, but much of the time pitcher has much to do with it, and the runner. I mean if a pitcher is slow to the plate and the runner is like Buck do we say the catch sucks, or just nothing he can do? I would even argue catching a lot of guys normally means teams are willing to run on you. Now if the bases taken and the CS percent is low that is bad. I remember LeCroy was once pulled mid-inning while with nationals because there was like 6 stolen bases on him in the inning. That is someone that cannot throw out runners. Not catcher, but I remember Manny Ramirez having pretty high assist numbers in the OF, putting up 19 one year, 17 another year. He played 149 games each of those years for a total of 36 assists in 298 games. Buck has 18 career assists in 497 career games. Does that mean Manny was better at throwing out runners? No not at all, it means teams were willing to run against Manny because he was terrible and would get lucky some times. People hardly run on Buck, unless they know they will make it because he is great at throwing runners out. Saying a guy is bad at throwing runners out because he only got 1 of 5 means nothing. How many times could they have run on him? Did he even have a chance to get the runner out? I mean Jeffers may have had perfect throws and the fielder did not catch it, or the runner stole it off the pitcher. -
Is the Twins Rotation for Real?
Trov replied to Ted Schwerzler 's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
What about Winder, he sure looked good so far too? Even if some of the vets fall off, he may step in like he has so far.- 44 replies
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Games like last night will happen in a 162 game season. Not worth dwelling on it. Just about every break went against the Twins in that one. Just do not let it compound to additional games. My biggest concern is this is 2 starts in a row where Bundy was not good. I would agree better defense and he most likely does not give up nearly as many runs. For sure in the 4th they only give up a couple. The first hit should have been caught but the CF broke so late. Miranda had a ball go through his glove as well. However, Bundy still gave up some HR and hard contact as well as a couple of bad walks. I just hope this is not a sign of Bundy moving forward and that Rocco does not keep sending him out there if he is cooked. We have depth we do not need to send out a vet that keeps losing just because we have them. I am willing to give Bundy a few more starts after his first three very good starts, and even last one he settled in for a few good innings, but lets not replay JA Happ and Shoemaker of last year.
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Is It Time to Start Worrying About Austin Martin?
Trov replied to Cody Christie's topic in Twins Minor League Talk
I guess to me the question is what do you mean by worry? Do you worry he will not be an MLB player? Do you worry he will not be an all-star? Do you worry he will not be an MVP? Do you worry he will not be a hall of famer? I guess if you expected him to be an MVP candidate year in and year out with gold glove defense at SS then be worried, because it is unlikely he will do that. If you expect he will be a faster Luis Arraez then do not be worried at all. If you have super high expectations for Marten then be worried he will not meet them, but if you think he will get on base at a high percentage, steal a good amount of bases, and can play defense somewhere, then I would not be worried at all. No he will not hit double digit HR but he very well may be able to lead off, steal 40 plus bases, and play adequate defense somewhere, including some time at CF if needed. If you wanted him to step in and hit 20 plus HR drive in 100 plus RBI every year well look somewhere else. I am not worried about Martin being an above average MLB player at all. I am not worried he will flop and never make the majors. Maybe he will develop more power but we do not need 20 plus HR from every guy in our line up. Getting on base at the percent he does, with his speed will still play at the MLB level. -
Twins 7, Orioles 2: Twins stay hot behind Ryan, Bats
Trov replied to Jamie Cameron's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
My main comment is the writer talking about how Jeffers has less power than Garver. Outside of his 31 HR season, when everyone was hitting a ton of HR, Garver has been limited in his power. Jeffers hit 14 HR in 293 PA last year, Garver had 13 in 243. In 2018, Garver had 7 in 335 PA. I know people love to talk about the 31 HR season like that was Garver regular self, and not that it was a loaded baseball season. If you go by pure HR to PA ratio Jeffers is basically on par with Garver over his career. Even better if you take out the crazy 2019 year. Many people wanted Jeffers traded and Garver kept, which I thought was crazy as Jeffers was better defender and on par offense overall. Yes, if Garver was always putting up 2019 numbers then Garver had great value, but a single outlier season does not make a career. Jeffers is years younger, and putting up better numbers than Garver.- 42 replies
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Unless they are a relief pitcher at the AAA or dominate at AA I do not care too much about minor league relief guys. It is mainly that if a guy is a relief pitcher at low A, generally, he will not do all to well for a career. Some will, but the most successful MLB relief pitchers were normally a minor league starter for some period.
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The Next Twins Prospect Promotion
Trov replied to Ted Schwerzler 's topic in Twins Minor League Talk
If things continue the way they are I see no reason it would not be Lewis. Yes, his normal position is SS, but he can play OF or 3b. His bat is doing great, and reports are he has been good at SS, but I think next injury at MLB level, unless it is a catcher will be Lewis coming up.- 55 replies
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I for sure would have went SWR number 1. As pointed out he is young for the league, A full 3.7 years below average and only 1 hitter was younger than him. He did not allow a run, was at the higher level, better WHIP, Yes, Stankiewicz had the better K rate and K to walk ratio, but he is older than just about everyone he is facing, or at least close in age. SWR is 2 years younger than Stankiewicz but two level above him. It is close, but I would give SWR the edge overall as a more impressive month. Both are pretty good though, hope Stankiewicz can do it at high A now.
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What the Twins Can Expect from Jose Miranda
Trov replied to Ted Schwerzler 's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
I just hope he actually gets to play and not a few games at the MLB level only to get sent back down when Gray is ready to come of DL and he gets not playing time. We have been known to do that bring up a guy only to not play them an inning for several games. The offense has been coming around, Urshella had a terrible weekend, and Arraez had a rough stretch too. I think Miranda should get at least 1 start. I doubt he will be here long, barring additional injuries, or he just rakes and forces his way into line up.- 29 replies
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I am not sold on CES yet. He has been putting up crazy numbers, but he is on the older side of the league being he is a college bat. I have not personally seen him play, but from everything I read and see on paper is that he has a big question of chasing too much. The question will be is he a guy that will strike out too much at bad pitches and get himself out at higher levels. I cannot tell if he just crushes fast balls right now and the breaking stuff is just not good enough against him right now. The big question for him is how will he handle better stuff as he rises up the levels. Despite his huge numbers he is not considered a top prospect, and maybe he is one of those that slip through or maybe he is just one that can crush bad pitching. I will like to keep checking on him, hope he makes jump to AA this year and see how he does there. He may just be a guy that will swing at most things thrown up there but still can hit it hard. I am not saying he will be that guy, but Vlad was a guy that would never take pitches for the most part and could still get hits on bad pitches. Eddie is a more recent example, with less success but still MLB level guy. We always got upset at his chase rate, but he still managed to get some nice hits and balls no one else would. Maybe CES is the exception to the rule, but only time will tell.
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Woods-Richardson could work on that K-walk ratio, but you cannot argue with the fact he has not give up a run this year. If he can continue this he should be up to St. Paul later this year and if needed make a start or two for big club. Hopefully he will not be needed, unless he just forces the hand. With how our rotation is looking and how both guys we got for Berrios, I am saying the trade is a win for us so far. Still very early to tell, but Berrios is not doing anything too amazing that you would say he should be starting over any of our current starters.
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3 Reasons to Believe in These Twins
Trov replied to Nash Walker's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
The central is weak, and I personally am not surprised by that. I felt the Sox out performed last year, in a weak division. They have been a terrible defensive team for years, and have done nothing to help that. They can have a good offense, but their defense is always going to be an issue. Also, their pitching is thin. They were counting on aging pitchers to do what they had been doing, but have little depth. Detroit did better than expected last year with some young guys out performing expectations, and vets having good years. Their break out rookies, ie Badoo, has not performed anywhere close to last year so far. Baez has been hurt, but the rest of the line up has not done much either. They have the pieces and could break out but so far they have not been impressing. Cleveland has no offense and doubt they will. KC if their young talent comes around could be a challenge, but they are counting on a lot of young guys. I fully agree we have depth, and most importantly at the pitching position. That will go a long way over the season.- 14 replies
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3 Takeaways from Tuesday's Wild Walk-off Win
Trov replied to Melissa Berman's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
My take away from that crazy last play is that this year maybe we will get some breaks our way. Last year early in the year we were the team blowing leads on plays like that. We were the team throwing the ball away on stupid plays and losing close games. Right now, we are getting the other team to make bad plays get wins. Lets not forget Anderson and Abreau giving us a win in Sox series. That being said, I want to comment on the running play. Larnach first I feel played it bad. I do not know if he was looking to tag, or was playing half way like I think he should have. Yes, it hit the glove, but if he is playing half way he did not need to sprint back to bag he could have confirmed the catch or not and get back with plenty of time. Then Urshella should have never left second when Sano came running to second. Urshella should have seen Larnach on third and just stayed on second, like Larnach saw Urshella coming and stayed on third. Sano could have easy returned to first base as no one was covering there. Of all the players Sano actually was the best of them. He saw the throw go to home, he does not know if a runner is going but assumed they were, and he should follow the runners to the next base. He also could have always returned to first with no issue once he sees Urshella on second. Now, I will admit Sano took way too long to notice the other runners and should have returned sooner, but it all worked out.- 13 replies
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Good to see our top hitters producing. I would not be surprised if we see any of them cycle in through the season if injuries happen, or if some struggle enough. 3rd base, 1st base, Dh, and LF are not locked up by anyone. If Sano does not start getting hits, Sanchez or Urshella struggles or any of our rotating LF not step up, I could see Miranda and Lewis, and if needed Martin all getting up to MLB level.
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I know still early in his MLB career but I am very impressed with everything I see from Joe Ryan. He gets it done with location, movement, and throwing all his pitches for strikes. His FB is not overpowering, but because he gets the rise type movement he strikes out so many people on it. Now, will hitters learn to adjust as his career goes on and they see him more often, maybe. However, the early returns on the trade to get him is a huge win for Twins. We gave a up a guy that had no value to us last year, at the end of his contract, for a guy we will have for 6 years minimum, barring any trades, and has looked great.
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Twins Daily 2022 Draft Coverage, April 28
Trov replied to Jeremy Nygaard's topic in Twins Minor League Talk
I remember Giolito fell in draft because of injury, he has panned out fine. I would lean toward Lesko if he drops to 8. From what I read his change up elite, which is always one of the pitches that takes time to develop. If he is advanced with it, then less likely he just got by with velo in high school. -
Max Kepler Poised to Breakout ... Again?
Trov replied to Cody Christie's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
Kepler has always been on the cusp of being great, but never gets there. Analytic people love him and keep saying he will break out. He is who he is. He has tried to make adjustments over his career that has not worked well. He said last year he tried to work on more oppo hitting, but then that led to a funk in his swing. I like him as a defender, and he is serviceable as a hitter, but do not expect him to carry the team on offense. He is a good piece but just that a piece. He will do some good things, like last night, but he will not carry us.

