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I did not watch the game last night, but how many times will Duffy keep getting higher leverage chances? Also, why does Rocco hate Gordon so much? He pinch hit for him early in game to get Garlick into the game against a lefty. Garlick has shown no reason to trust him this year. I get lefty lefty can be issues, but Gordon has yet to get a fair shot in actual game action for extended period. He is always first to be pulled. I am not saying Gordon is going to be amazing, but Rocco is not willing to even give him a fair shot for some reason.
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Twins Take Two K’s On Same Day
Trov replied to Ted Schwerzler 's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
Read update on Krillioff showed no new injury. That is very concerning to me that this will be a long term injury he will need to learn how to play through or never be what he could be. -
He is who he is. We know who he is. You either play him or cut him. Sitting him does nothing. He has always been a guy on long slumps and long hot streaks. He will never make the changes we all want. Personally I am for cutting him to give Arraez more playing time, but do not just bench him.
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Twins Take Two K’s On Same Day
Trov replied to Ted Schwerzler 's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
Kirilloff issue is a huge deal. The fact that he had surgery and has never had pain free swing is huge. This may end his career, or greatly reduce what he may have been. Prior to his injury last year, he made great contact and hit the ball very hard. Since, it has just not had the same sound. Even if he thinks he can play through the pain, it clearly affects him. The fact that surgery did not fix it is worrisome. I had huge hopes for Kirilloff, but now I do not expect he will do much. Maybe he can get a new surgery that does the job, but he will be on the shelf again for months. I do not see how waiting will do any good if he spent all off-season feeling pain but did not address it. I think this is a huge loss and I do not expect him to play, at least not at a high level, the rest of this season if not his career. I know some will say I am overblowing this, but he needs to have pain free swings in his wrist to be productive. Having a full year of this without pain free swings even after surgery means it is unlikely he ever will. -
Game Score: Dodgers 7, Twins 0
Trov replied to Thiéres Rabelo's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
I guess you know Kershaw's body/arm better than him. He told the manager he would be done. He was asked how he felt and if wanted to keep going in the 6th inning. He said give me 1 more inning around 80 to 85 pitches. Guess the manager should have told him, nope I do not care how you feel Kershaw, you can make history here so go out there pitch tell you either give it up, your arm is injured, or game is over. If Kershaw told his manager he was good to go and wanted to try it, then I would have some level of agreement with you, as you should trust the person and what they say, but he said he would be done.- 42 replies
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Game Score: Dodgers 7, Twins 0
Trov replied to Thiéres Rabelo's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
Paddock looked terrible to start. Could not find the zone. He did not get a few possible called strikes, maybe Jeffers would have helped that. The fact the team was going to need to let the pen rest it was nice to see him recover to at least fight through a few innings. Still terrible start. New guy stepped to eat up some innings. Yes he got stretched out and got blown up in 8th but he did what was needed in this game. Lets hope the road helps get some of these bats going because we need more than Buck to hit if we want to compete.- 42 replies
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I see no space for Upton. He hits lefties fine still at this point in career, but negative against righties, and in the field. So the only positive you get is the few times he would play against left handed pitchers for the maybe 2 to 3 at bats he gets that game. Why would you use up a valuable roster spot on a guy with very limited times he would be better than a replacement player?
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Archer was effective last night, but not great. He was all over the place with command. His velo was up from recent years, which is a plus, but he will need to get his command back or some games he will get blown up bad.
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Has Luis Arraez Earned a Starting Role?
Trov replied to Cody Christie's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
At this point, if he can hold down DH, that is where I would want to see him most. He has not looked good at 3rd early on. I do not know if it will get better over time, maybe if he had a single position he could work on exclusively that could help, but he was never known for his glove. His bat needs to be in the line up, he gives great at-bats every time. He may not always get on base but he never gives an at-bat away. He will work counts, foul balls off over and over. Sanchez has not shown he will give you competitive at-bats each time out. -
Urshela Ushers in New Hope at Third Base
Trov replied to Ted Schwerzler 's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
Without Buck explaining his comment more everyone is just speculating. He did not name names or say anyone in particular. He did not even say it was different from start of last season. Sometimes when teams are losing it leads to bad club house too. Yes, Donaldson is known to say things that rub people wrong way, never reported that I know of to be his teammates though. I have long argued good clubhouse is important in baseball though. Unlike in some other sports, baseball you spend every day, including weekends, with your teammates from late February to hopefully late October. Unlike people with normal jobs we get weekends away from co-workers we do not like, or can change jobs easier.- 30 replies
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3 Twins Prospects Off to Great Starts
Trov replied to Nash Walker's topic in Twins Minor League Talk
If Lewis can show he is healthy, and can provide offense, I bet we see him come up to play 3rd base much of this season and back up SS when needed. I know Miranda is knocking too, but there is only so many at-bats to go around. I would love to see the debates of Miranda, Lewis, and Martin all showing they deserve a chance, and having to argue if anyone on Majors should be traded or cut to make room. Hopefully it is not who gets call up because of injuries or poor performances at MLB level.- 15 replies
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3 Things to Look for in Dylan Bundy's Twins' Debut
Trov replied to Cody Christie's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
I think the pitch usage may have been what led to the signing. My guess is the Twins saw the issue, and addressed it with Bundy. Most likely they have talked to him about plans to increase the change up and slider and remove the sinker. Generally, the staff is against the sinker as it leads to more balls in play normally. Only elite sinkers are effective in the staff mind. I bet we see almost no sinkers but a lot more fastball, slider and changeups. I wonder what led to the change in 2020 to 2021 though? Was it is something Bundy changed on his own, or did the pitching coach want the change? -
How Confident Are We in the Twins Relievers?
Trov replied to Andrew Mahlke's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
Whatever we do with the pen, I hope we do not do similar to what happen last year marching the same couple guys out in high leverage situations to fail. Our pen is what put us behind the 8 ball last year blowing many leads. They ended up not being terrible over the year, but one thing I thought Rocco would do is change up the high leverage guys sooner than he did. I hate making anyone the "closer" as I believe the save is a dumb stat. Now, I will agree that some guys look at the 9th different than other innings. Maybe it is the lack of more innings to come back, but there has been many guys that did great as a set up guy, only to fail when they were asked to close. Other guys had no issues coming in the 9th.- 20 replies
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I know early, but this team offense is reminding me of 2019 team. A ton of HR. I wonder if we are back to some juiced baseballs following the lockout to increase HR and fan excitement. Maybe it is just small sample size, but some of those bombs are crazy deep.
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3 Twins Prospects Off to Great Starts
Trov replied to Nash Walker's topic in Twins Minor League Talk
I will be honest I had not heard of Encarnacion-Strand until this early hot weekend. He strikes me as someone that will need to keep proving he can put up numbers at each level until he is considered a serious prospect. If he can really defend at 3rd and not just a bat only that will help. From what I saw, he has always hit well, but huge concerns about his chase rate and K rate. Now, I was one that always defended Eddie for his chase rate, that sometimes there are guys that can expand the zone and get hits. They are few and far between though. The big question will be when he starts facing the same guys, scouting reports get out on him, and he faces higher competition if that chase rate really starts to hurt him with more K's and more weak contacts, or will he learn to be more selective on what he swings at.- 15 replies
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I had no issue with the trade. As pointed out pen pitchers are risky and can fall off quickly, and you can also get big seasons out of no where from many guys. I personally feel people overvalue "closers". I will agree, our pen is worse now then it was with Rogers, but I am not ready to say this will cost us any games in the long run. Rogers was good, but not amazing. I never felt when he was in there the game was over, like when Nathan was here. I would also agree that the value brought back is most likely more than what we would have got at a mid-season trade if we are not winning. To remain competitive, you need to continue to bring in guys with value and team control, and be willing to trade guys away before they walk for nothing. The Rays do this all the time and do a great job at it.
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Arraez did not have much of a drop off since 2019, he actually increased his hard hit rate, and last year he dealt with knee issues. With the no more juiced ball I think he is close to expectations. A little higher average and OBP would be nice, but I am not worried about his bat at all. Gordon is on the team for his ability to play just about any position, his ability to run, and he is a better hitter than his numbers suggest. If you followed Gordon over his career when he would get to next level he would start off slow, and people would question his ability, only to adjust to the league and get people back on board. He is not a top SS by any means, but he will be a decent utility guy in his career. He is out of options and there is no plan to have him take too many at bats from guys but can fill in just about anywhere when needed.
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Twins Opening Day Preview: Joe Ryan vs Robbie Ray
Trov replied to Jamie Cameron's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
It will be interesting to see if hitters ever adjust to the fastball of Ryan. It does look like it rises and all those swings under it creates either misses or popups a lot too. As long as they are not hitting it out of the park he will get a lot of flyouts to go with strike outs. I know MLB sample size small but his numbers have been good. If you look at his minor league numbers they overall have been good too. He has always had more double digit K's per 9, and with 2 or less walks per 9, for a good K to Walk rate. If his fastball sat at 95 he would be ranked as one of best rookie pitchers in the game. I am rooting for Joe to show you do not need the velo to win, but you can still pitch yourself to being good. Ray is the opposite, he will always get by on his velo and slider movement. If he is not spotting his fastball he will get back to walking guys. Once he loses some velo he will drop off quickly I would think. I personally think he will regress back to his norm. He is going to be 30 this year, coming off of a career year in contract year. He pitched last year better than he ever has by far, except for hard hit rate still very high. To me that suggests he got some luck. Maybe he finally found some control, but having long term walk issues just go away one season is a little surprising. Maybe Toronto unlocked something in that matter. It just raises and eye brow that he is still giving up huge hard hit rate with such a low OBP.- 9 replies
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Minor League Report (4/7): Sands Stymies Bats
Trov replied to Ted Schwerzler 's topic in Twins Minor League Talk
I have a feeling the plan for the first 2 to 3 weeks this season is to really piggy back starters. I doubt many starters first start will go more than 5 innings no matter the pitch count. I also bet they will have pitch counts no more than 80 some even less. So the guys like Winder will then be asked to do a good 3 to 4 innings as well.- 13 replies
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If Buck and Correa both stay healthy, I bet they will go down as best duo numbers wise, and the fact that both play top defense at top defensive positions. Both Buck and Correa have won award for best overall defender in a given season. To me that is what would put them above the rest if they can also put up the offense we expect.
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Assessing the Twins Trade for Chris Paddack
Trov replied to Ted Schwerzler 's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
Agree with concern 1, if that UCL fully tears that is 2 lost years. For number 2, I would not say the splits are that bad of home road in his career to say he benefited from home parks. His splits difference is 19 more innings at home with only a few more earned runs on road. So did it play some over his career yes, but keep in mind his best season many of his road games would have been in hitter friendly parks too, that being NY and Boston. That year his numbers were actually better on the road. Meaning, I do not see the splits as a home park thing. In terms of number 3, I think you are reaching as both were on the trading block last year before the lockout.- 86 replies
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So I get why people are upset when you look at the traditional counting numbers this looks like a downgrade for the Twins. I get a little confused when some commenters are saying we should have went after Manaea and give up middle of road prospects to get him for 1 year rental. However, if you look at the FIP of Paddack, last year was his best of his short career so far. People should know that Padres was the league average defensive team, Twins last year was double the runs saved than Padres. As long as our team can stay healthy we have two of the best defenders in all the league at the top defensive positions. Meaning, if Paddack can pitch close to his FIP again and get some decent defense behind him, people will be changing their tune quickly on him. On the face, Pagan is a downgrade to Rogers. However, not as big of a drop off as some think. The writer says Rogers is coming off of best career year, but I would not agree with that. His 2018 and 2019 years were much better. By certain numbers he may be, but overall I would say no he is not. Pagan is a downgrade for sure, but no one is saying he will slip into the same role as Rogers. I think people have inflated what Rogers has done recently. He is not the same guy from 3 and 4 years ago. He has shown he is a lefty specialist now. He has shown he is not good on back to back days. He has blown many saves, which we had him as a closer before, but he started blowing saves the last two years. I liked Rogers, but if Paddack can pitch anywhere close to his potential this will be a huge steal for the Twins. My guess is Twins think they can make some adjustments for him and get him straight. It is an interesting trade that may pay off huge, but it is not like we gave up a ton. Rodgers is not that amazing where we know when he comes in the game is over. Yes, he was most likely best of what we had recently, but I do not mind the trade at all. I trust the FO and coaching staff has spotted something in Paddock that they think they can fix his issues from last year and get the potential he showed when first broke into league. Sometimes just a change in teams will fix a guy.
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Gio Urshela, Floor to Ceiling: Where did the Offense Go?
Trov replied to Jamie Cameron's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
I think they are not expecting much from him, and if they can get him close to his 2019 2020 seasons the team will be very happy. If he struggles, they can look to trade him, or just cut him if Miranda is ready to come up or just put Arraez in. They are not counting on Urshela to be anything amazing, he will be hitting 6th or 7th most games. I would agree we downgraded overall at 3rd base, but it freed up money to get a SS, maybe just for 1 year but huge upgrade there, and we have others that can play 3rd base, we did not have anyone ready to play SS this year. -
Good to see Lewis playing. Personally, I am not concerned about his knee injury. Most people return to full strength from that surgery with little issue. Mostly it is the mental side of things that you feel like you can do what you did before without issue. I had the surgery and after 6 months physically I could do what I did before, but it took awhile to get my mind right to say do what you want it is fine. I was back doing everything I did after about a year with no issues for many years. I would not worry about it for him, he is far removed from the surgery.
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What Twins Over/Unders Are You Taking in 2022?
Trov replied to Ted Schwerzler 's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
If Buck can stay healthy he will be over the HR number. When healthy for a full year I think he will clearly pass 30. He has really found his power and his HR are crushed, not wall scrapers, and he is locked in turning on those breaking pitches. The only reason I would say under is because I expect only 81 to 90 games as that is his norm.- 23 replies
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