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  1. Trov
    Teams move up and down the list as players get called up or drafted. The biggest concerns come when you want to make trades that players are not highly thought of. I mean look at last year we traded for Martin and SWR. Some said we got great deal, but now, we are talking about how Martin is possibly a bust. Heading into 2020 Miranda was not on anyone's radar as a top prospect, but then he clicked in 2021 after minors got back and now talking about possible rookie of year. Prospects will rise and fall, but until they prove it in MLB all prospect ranks are good for is what other teams may think of certain players. It is possible every one of the guys we traded away in the last year do not pan out for the teams we went them to. The biggest concern is if year in year out you are in lower range but to drop after making a ton of trades is not surprising.
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    If you want to use even HOF player Pujols, how long do you want to extend Miranda? He is 24 now, we have him until he is 30 without buying FA years. So we offer say 100 over 10, which if he is betting on himself he would turn down in a heart beat because that would keep him until 34 and would never get a major contract after that. The fact he is 24 now makes it hard to project what he would be willing to take and what his arb years would be. I am guessing he will not want to buy out too much FA years without a big overpay on his early years. The reason I say this is Albert after age 30 started to drop in production. He was still hitting HR at a reasonable rate, but his defense fell, and his OPS dropped at 31, then more 32, then more 33, where it stayed stable around .780 for a few years, then low .700 or below where he was getting way overpaid. Now, if you think he will have the production of his age 25 to 35, and you think he would accept 10 year 100 mil, you would take that in a heartbeat. However, it is big gamble for both, because if he does put up Albert numbers, then he would be very underpaid, but if he falls flat then we are paying a lot for a poor player. I doubt either side reaches that many years of FA. I think only reason either side does deal is to know cost control, but I still feel we are ahead of us on a rookie that was never considered a top prospect until his breakout last year.
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    I am not a fan of signing guys that are rookies to long term deals. Maybe after year 2 I would be open to it. Not saying I expect a huge drop off, but this has burned some teams, and many times rookies have big seasons then league adjusts, or player tries to adjust and regresses. Not saying they are same player, but one example is Badoo for Detroit. Many fans here hated he was left in rule 5 to go to Tigers, and he had up and down rookie year, but many thought he would be even better this year, but he has been not even playable at MLB level. Now, Miranda has not regressed after his initial terrible start and short demotion. Something clicked and he has been good for months, without much regression. So hopefully he continues it for years, but I am not ready to just say he is a superstar for years to invest large amounts of money.
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    Just think he is still not in his prime. What is amazing for me is how quickly he adjusts to how teams have adjusted to him. He will go on a short skid and then boom I will start hitting the ball somewhere else. He will foul pitches off until he gets his he wants. This is not something most can do. He is a joy to watch.
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    I am pretty sure you can say this about just about every team. Not sure where Twins rank in innings per start, but league wide teams are asking less of their starters. I do feel Twins are on the little more extreme, but even our top starters average only 5 innings per start, not just Archer and Bundy. I also believe most teams will give their vets longer leashes based on prior track record. If you cut a guy after one or two bad games, you will never have people to put out there. I feel your article is a little off when it comes to Pagan, as he has not been in high leverage situation since the trade deadline, except for extra inning game where all the other guys where used already. They are not throwing Pagan out there in late innings but using him in lower leverage early outings, like yesterday when we needed more innings from pen. I just want to point out Rogers who, had amazing first 20 games, but since has been not very good, following your argument he should be cut and a FA now, and no team should look to use him, but he will continue to get chances because he has shown success in past, even early in this season. As it pertains to signing pen guys, they are more of a crap shoot than any other position. As pointed out Rogers was amazing over 20 games, and if he was a FA signing people would have said amazing signing, but now he is doing poorly, so he would be a bad signing. Look at Thielbar, early in year he had 2 terrible outings, and had about 2 or 3 bad outings since, but overall he has been pretty good. I am just pointing out that it is hard to judge how a pen is doing unless you look across the whole body of work, and they can have good and bad runs, so hard to judge them at any given time.
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    Judge may leave the Yankees. It may depend on how willing Yankees are to be over the tax. He turned down a big deal already. I have not looked into the payroll of Yankees for next few years, but they do have some big contracts already in Stanton, Cole, Donaldson. They still need to fill their rotation out with trading Montgomery, and Tallion being FA, Servino on IL. There may be a club willing to pay Judge more than what Yankees are willing to just because of tax level and other areas to fill in next year or two.
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    SWR since coming back from IL has been like he was at start of year. He started off 4 great games, to then have some ehhh games, then on IL, only to come back with 4 good games again. Not great, but he is showing maybe the bad games were in part injury related. Brooks Lee early numbers sure look like he will hit. He should break camp at AA next year and from there if he hits and there is a need he could be someone to force his way into lineup. I am not expecting he debuts next year, but if injuries arise and he shows his bat is MLB ready why not.
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    First, he did not blow a save over the weekend, he did take the loss in his second inning of extra innings because Lopez blew the save putting it to extra innings. He has blown a lot of saves, and giving up way too many HR to pitch in high leverage situations right now. However, he still has good stuff overall and I would not look to DFA him, just keep his high leverage situations to a minimum. You point out WPA, and the guy we traded away has a lower WPA with a -0.9 to Pagan is -0.7. Lopez our new closer has -0.5 for us so far, very small sample with us, but he has blown 2 saves for us in 4 chances. I like the WPA stat because it takes leverage into account. Pagan has been taken out of high leverage for awhile now, but over the weekend he had to go out in the extra innings for 2 innings because we burned through our high leverage guys that blew the save.
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    For most part I would agree, but I am sure if we were asked last year if we would sign Correa to a deal everyone would say no way no how. Yes, last year was an interesting off-season that most likely led to the deal, but Correa was not given the contract he wanted, so he signed the "pillow deal". Judge turned down big deal to bet on himself, but will people pay what he is asking? I do not believe any will be signed by Twins, but we did shock everyone with the Correa deal.
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    Julien may get moved up to AAA after AA season is over. With this close to end of season organizations tend to look to not make too many moves unless they have to. I would agree he is ready to move up at the plate, but as he would not be making the MLB this year does it make much of a difference today, next month, or next year to be in AAA? In terms of defense he has played all year at 2b or dh, only 18 games in LF last year. From everything I read on him is his defense is what will keep him from being regular starter, unless his bat is super elite he may be settling into 1b/DH. They may look back to LF if there is a spot there in future, but that could be addressed more in off-season. Although his defense at 2b on paper does not look to be terrible this year so maybe he has made improvements. Polonco is close to end of his contract so 2nd base is not as locked up as it may seem. Overall, I am sure it will work itself out.
  11. Trov
    All three are easy calls. Bundy would be a little harder if we did not have a lot of possible depth and he was more consistent. Sano is out and so is Bundy. Gray easy pick up.
  12. Trov
    This was the ultimate team loss. We left so many on base that if we could have got 1 hit in many cases we could have broke game open. Beyond that there was some terrible at bats watching some guys swing at ball four near their eyes. Then late in the game we had some good defense but some bad defense as well. I mainly do not understand why Gordon was not much closer to the line. The left hand hitter looked like a slap hitter to me, and you add in fact that Lopez throws heat. No way was he going to pull the ball in the air to right. Everyone should have been swung way over, but for some reason Gordon was way off the line making him needing to dive. Still if we get one hit with runners in scoring position we win the game and not put in that position.
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    I wonder where Julien on national prospect rankings after this year. He was never highly touted but has done nothing but hit and shown good eye at plate walking nearly as much as striking out. His numbers are slightly better this year than last year overall too. I think what is hurting his prospect ranking is one he was never high on people lists, but two his lack of defense. I is at 2nd right now and appears to not be too solid there even. He is looking like possible low defense high offense 2nd base or shift to 1B. He has DH 14 times at AA. His bat will get him to MLB it looks like, but his lack of defense may limit his impact. However, if he can hit like he has at the MLB level, they will find a spot for him. May make debut next year.
  14. Trov
    Interesting take on prospect rankings. You talk about CES as a guy that gave hope, assuming because his offense numbers, and attack Noah Miller, because his offense numbers not as good. What I draw from your determination on prospects is you only care what their offense output is and do not care about anything else that will go into it. Like age, defensive position, how well they can play defense, projection based on. I bet going back to 2019 you most likely said Jose Miranda was not a prospect and had no hope of being anything, being his slash numbers were basically the same as Noah Miller. Miranda was not high on rankings, but he developed. Much of prospect ranking is projection, not where they are right now. CES is not highly ranked by national rankings. In part, he is older so less projection there, and many worry when he faces better pitching he will strike out at way to high of rate. I personally have not watched, unlike the scouts that actually rank him, not sure if you have. However, the book on him is he will chase too much, and many expect when he faces better pitching that will have less mistakes he will not do as well. Maybe he proves them wrong. Prospect ranks are subjective and many times people get them wrong. However, to say Miller is destined for utility guy at best when he is only 19 in A ball right now may be a little premature as well. Maybe you are right, but only time will tell. Personally though, I was not big on CES because he has no defense and I have seen too many college bats tear up lower minors only to never make majors because in AAA they face good pitching and their holes are exposed. Maybe they get a cup of coffee or something at majors but again holes get exposed.
  15. Trov
    I would say Canterino worries me the most. Not because it is TJ, as many guys recover from it, but he has had many arm issues and Rice guys have history of that. Maybe he comes back and does just fine, but he will start getting passed up on depth charts and will need to prove himself much faster before he starts getting bounced around the league on waiver claims. Lewis will be given every chance to show he is back, and as long as he can hit there will be a place for him. Rodriguez is still very young and will be given plenty of time to recover too. Also he will be known for the bat as well and at minimum there is the DH roll he can find if he can keep swinging.
  16. Trov
    No they do not have too much starting pitching. Yes, they have more than 5 but no team ever just uses 5. Some if needed could get transitioned to pen roll, where many starters end up excelling. Some will get injured, and some could get traded. There may be a 40 man roster crunch and you may lose one or two through waivers, but none of the ones you may lose are top of rotation guys. Smeltzer will be DFA. Despite having a decent run, he was getting by with smoke and mirrors. He has high chance of passing through waivers and if not, no huge deal. Overall it will work itself out. Maybe the players will not be as happy about spending time in minors until injuries give them starts, or being in pen, but such is the nature of the game.
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    If he continues to struggle the rest of the season like he has over last few weeks, then maybe he opts in next year, but his numbers are still very good at a position of high need. I would still expect a team willing to give up long term deal if he bounces back to normal the rest of the year. Maybe he opts in, and if he does I will not be upset at all.
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    Brooks Lee is expected to be a quick mover through the system. In part why Steer was even easier to be traded. Steer was blocked at MLB by guys, and had someone like Lee most likely nipping at his heels. I bet he starts next season in AA.
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    I would not look to have Duran the "fireman" roll. He can strike guys out at high rate and rarely walks, but he also is not always having clean 123 innings. He seems to give up a week single a lot of times, which if you need to put out a fire you do not want that. I think Twins will keep putting him out there to start innings. I would agree using him against heart of lineup before 8th may be good idea than just save for 8th.
  20. Trov
    If it helps him stay on the field good for him. I wonder why they did not look into this last surgery or why it just started to be an issue in his early 20's. My guess his bone did not get longer just this past year, I could be wrong not a doctor or anything. Either way I hope all the luck to him on his recovery.
  21. Trov
    Personally I am happy with the deals. They brought in 2 controllable pitchers, a rental pen arm, and a backup catcher, all without giving up any "top" prospects that are near MLB ready. Either Lopez or Mahle could be dealt before their contracts end if we wanted to, which would soften any lost prospects, or we use them all next year for another hopeful playoff run. Steer plays a position that is not a need for a couple of years, barring injuries of course, but there are others that can fill in. The pitchers are all a couple of years from being ready, and we never know how would pan out, but we have a lot of depth in the lower minors that was going to get figured out at one point. None of them are highly touted but doing well. CES may be the biggest peice going out, but he is mainly a bat, and again at position not of major need right now. I also have concerns his bat will not carry in the higher levels, which is why he is also not a top prospect because of fear his chase rate will get exploited as he faces better pitching. These are the types of deals I was hoping would be made. Improve the team, but do not sell the farm or your future.
  22. Trov
    I am greatly concerned with his wrist, being that our only reports are that no additional surgery will be helpful. I was hopeful when he came back and was hitting the ball hard he had learned to play through it, but looks like might be something to haunt him rest of career.
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    Overall I like this deal. He still has years of control and can be flipped later on like we did with Rogers or Brewers did with Hader to get some return back if we need to. That is why years of control is so important. We did not give up anyone that will hurt us over the next 2 to 3 years either.
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    I was big on Arcia. In part it goes back to when he was in AA I went to a game he was playing and the ball just sounded different off his bat. He came on the scene and looked like he could be a hitter for years. He just never adjusted to how MLB pitchers would pitch to him. His attitude reflected that as well when he would make comments about he was there to hit HR. I was really big on Stephen Gonsalves. His early low minor numbers were great, but he just never fully developed.
  25. Trov
    Snell is an interesting piece as his numbers have not been good since leaving Rays, but if his stuff is still the same it makes you wonder what is leading to it? Is SD just that much worse on defense? I mean the park is a pitcher park if I recall correctly. I trust the FO if they think they can bring him back to his TB numbers, but he has not been great in SD. He would very much be buy low guy, and could get really cheap if you want to take on all the money.
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