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Everyone can name the big guys. Can you name the other guys who contributed? He had good players of course. They won the division how many times? You don’t do that without good players but you need other guys to compete to the best of their abilities as well right? So who would you have wanted instead of Gardy? Who would you have wanted other than Baldelli? Who did you want other than Shelton? Would your guy have brought them further in the playoffs than these guys? Doubt it. As far as a culture guy and a guy who pushed his teams to the most their ability could give I don’t believe you can name any other Twins manager other than Gardy and TK. For all the bellyaching about Baldelli and crying about how baseball isn’t fair because of the Yankees and dodgers and …. And …. Y’all can’t even get on the same page for anything. Can’t even acknowledge that the Twins have had good managers. Y’all living in a video game and not in reality.
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Do we still not know the new ownerships groups?
TNtwins85 commented on Doc Munson's blog entry in Fantasy GM
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Do we still not know the new ownerships groups?
TNtwins85 commented on Doc Munson's blog entry in Fantasy GM
The Quarterly owners meetings are Nov. 18-20. I imagine we’ll find out more then. Until then I think it’s all in waiting to be approved. Even then it will probably be some vague information and we may not ever know the percentages. -
@Alex Boxwellgreat article! Totally agree! Although I didn’t play as high of levels as you I would echo your talking points. Even in high level D2 baseball 20 years ago the Head coach is not working individually with players. Also, coaches were not working individually with players all that much but more group work and philosophy. For instance developing change ups at that level. We would get instruction as a pitching group and we would be expected to work on it individually. Mechanics were just starting to be implemented and we would have a video day where we were shown different mechanics and how to utilize them and what key positions and movements were. Never was there a coach personally instructing on where and how to move but we needed to find what worked individually to unlock our best movements in a throwing program. The point is even at that level 20 years ago a head coach or manager was merely doing just that. Managing the overall structure of a 35 player roster and the talking head pulling the strings of a game in the dugout. That was D2 20 years ago so I can imagine what a ML organization is like. I would guess that’s why players get payed so much more. Why? Because they are in control of their careers. Yet people seem to think managers and coaches are so much more involved than they really are for some reason. Derek Shelton will be as good as the roster he’s given and how he influences that roster.
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Unless you were in the room or you personally know from ownership and Falvey this doesn’t signal anything. Why? Because you just like the rest of us don’t know. This is pure speculation just like everything else. Will they spend their way to competitiveness? No. Will they unload everyone and have a bottom line payroll? Probably not. It will be some middle of the road “stay competitive” walk down the line to keep fan interest from cratering with a few moves to shake things up. Will they lose 100 games? Probably not. Will they win 90 games? Probably not. It will be another “milk toast” season where we see some young guys and some terrible and good play at times. Why? Cause they are the Twins.
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*What were you told about the direction of this team and this franchise going forward and what questions did you ask about the direction of this team and franchise going forward? Honestly. Cause all Twins fans would love to know.
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What was Gardy known for? Continually getting the most out of some very dismal rosters that Terry Ryan gave him. Tell me I’m wrong. Hence, if Toby is anything like his dad it’s what the Twins need. “Baseball players”. The Twins don’t have very many “baseball players”. Guys that have all around talents and combine those talents to win games. In order to win you need to build a baseball team out of baseball players. Despite his playoff record every year he continually got the most out of what he was given. Something that got Baldelli and how many other coaches over the years fired. Now explain to me “What!?!?!?” Is wrong with what I said.
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How Low Could the Minnesota Twins' Payroll Go?
TNtwins85 replied to Cody Christie's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
Honestly, I skimmed it. As I’ve seen this horse beaten to death for so long it’s engraved in my mind at this point. Twins payroll, Pohlads, Falvey, 40% of the roster, Baldelli, salary cap, salary floor, Pohlads, Falvey, stupid, cheap, 40% of the roster, Pablo, Ryan, Buxton, Jeffers, trade, Falvey Pohlads, salary cap, salary floor……- 63 replies
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How Low Could the Minnesota Twins' Payroll Go?
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I did all the math. Pondered the equations and after long thought I came up with this genius answer. The Pohlads and MLB could agree to contract the team. In which case it would be $0. There, I answered every “the sky is falling” Twins fans question. What’s the prize?- 63 replies
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The Twins and the Illusion of Hope in a Rebuild
TNtwins85 replied to Cody Christie's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
Not a rebuild until they trade Pablo and Buxton. Until then I’m not gonna think this is even remotely close to a rebuild. They traded 4 relievers and all but one to be free agents. They were never gonna resign any of those guys and they got rid of relievers for starters and position players. They didn’t trade for all A ball guys either. Not a rebuild. The Twins fans “sky is falling” nature is getting overblown. When a guy like Walker Jenkins is in AAA a rebuild is not in the books. The prospect cupboards are not bare and last time I checked they’ve still got a bunch of really good players. I believe a rebuild when everyone over 27 is gone.- 61 replies
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I would love for Toby to be in the coaching staff! If he’s even anything like his dad he’s exactly the type of coach this team needs.
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I would love it to be either Rowson or Flaherty. I like both as they are outside hires with proven teams. Rowson has connections but he’s been with a few other teams since his stay in Minnesota. My question is why not have 2? Either of Flaherty or Rowson but have Shelton or Servais as bench coach. Haven’t heard their names floated around and they’re good baseball guys. My guess is that Rowson gets the job. At that point maybe ask Shelton or Servais to be bench coach. Hell, I’d even be up for having Punto as a bench coach as well. Really build it out and create a culture with the guys on the coaching staff. Get Falvey and Zoll out of there and let the coaches coach.
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I believe you are mostly right on this. Everyone points to logic that if the Twins trade Ryan or Lopez then why not tear it all down. That makes sense but for one fact. Pohlads still own this team and the Twins have never done a full tear down. Even when it would’ve benefited them in terms of competitiveness faster. Why? Marketability. The 90’s and 2010’s teams were slowly torn down and kept players that would have fetched prospect hauls. Instead Pohlad owned teams held on to stars through their declining years in order to still keep a couple faces and hold a death grip on what was. Why, to hold some semblance of what was to put fans in the stands even when the team wasn’t competitive. Puckett, Hrbek, Harper, Knoblauch(until he requested a trade) and Tapani and Erickson of the 90’s. Held on to for way too long. Didn’t maximize what they could have got back. Mauer, Morneau, Willingham, Span, Revere, Diamond and Perkins. All held onto too long when a total tear down would have accelerated the rebuild. Teams that did total tear downs? Astros( we all know how that went) and the Cubs (rebuilt fast and won it in ‘16) meanwhile the Twins prolonged they’re rebuild only to flounder ‘19-‘23 and here we are. Astros dynasty is closing and the cubs are just coming out of their 2nd retool. Why? Cause a Pohlad owned team will never just blow it up when they probably should.
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No team wanting and trading for Ryan is gonna want to part with legitimate major league talent. The Twins only maximize his value by getting 2 near ready guys and a few lotto ticket prospects. Unless the Orioles are willing to part with Rutschman, Mayo and a lotto ticket and the Twins add in SWR or another back end SP I don’t see how a “baseball” trade works out. I’m not sure they see Basallo as a full time catcher. Maybe the Twins go all out and do Pablo and Ryan to the Orioles. Then I’m asking for Rutschman, Mayo, Bradfield Jr. and Forret as the ML/near ML guys with Aracena and Morfe as the 2 lower level lotto tickets. Rutschman has 3 more years of control. Mayo is a beast and just needs to hit ML pitching. A high ceiling low floor guy. The rest are solid prospects. I don’t see any other teams offering ML for ML trades but the Orioles are like the Twins and might wanna shake things up.
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Add in to that that they are not gonna sign a 30 yo SP to a long term deal. If you trade him now you most likely get 2 guys that contribute this year. That supplants Ryan’s value this year and out of the hopefully 3-4 guys you get supplants Ryan’s value the next 6 years. Gives you a better chance to compete in ‘27 then Ryan does in ‘26 and ‘27. He was good this year but not Cy Young good. The bar is 4.5 WAR. Or 11 WAR over his career to this point. If you take emotion out of the equation a Ryan trade just makes sense.
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If you want something for him that can help you this season and for the next 6 seasons then you trade him. There will be plenty of suitors looking for a top of the rotation pitcher getting paid $6M. That type of pitcher gets you 2 really good prospects and at least 1 or 2 more lottery tickets. Regardless of what happened and what will happen to the Twins you trade guys like that. It’s just smart. In fact 1 or maybe both of the high level prospects bring value this season. High level value over the next 6. It may be unpopular but a mid market team regardless should almost always trade a guy like Ryan. It’s not about if the ownership is incompetent. It’s about is the FO competent? If they are they cash in on Ryan this offseason.
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Oh I totally agree. I don’t think we’ll see him until at least mid next season unless he becomes the heir apparent to Jacob Wilson. I don’t believe that will be the case because Wilson had and does have a better hit tool but I’m open to being surprised! I was just stating 24 games at low and high A won’t show what he is in the batters box but my gosh the defense plays now! Gonna need to see the ups and downs at A+ over 100 games to get any idea of what his offensive profile looks like.
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What Will Minnesota Twins Do with Matt Wallner?
TNtwins85 replied to Cody Pirkl's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
“What will the Minnesota Twins do with Matt Wallner?” play him at DH and bat him 5-9 and no higher. Never in the OF. That should be the plan. Don’t stray from this plan.- 101 replies
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In 12 games dude. Read the above comment. After playing a full 70 game college schedule with playoffs along with A ball. Literally the most he’s ever played in a season and against the best competition he’s ever faced. Yeah, he needs to work on hitting but your basing his A+ OPS on literally a sample of a sample size.
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Three Internal Options to Help Rebuild Twins Bullpen
TNtwins85 replied to Cody Pirkl's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
Nobody said they would be Aguilera and Nathan. Adams’ velocity improved when he became strictly a short stint BP guy which plays up and he’s got an assortment of pitches to go to. No he’s not Duran but neither was Duran. Laweryson had good command. Threw strikes and got some good outs for only being in the majors for a few appearances. Duran was a failed starter with terrible command. Constantly injured. Jax was one of the worst starters in Twins history, had a -1 WAR and a 6 something ERA his first year. low velocity and iffy secondary stuff, Brock Stewart was a 30 something injury plagued scrap heap guy, Varland was a failed starter who couldn’t finish guys as a 15th round draft pick out of a tiny Minnesota college. Point is you never know where the next dominant BP arm will come from and if they show any promise they could be something. Especially when they can throw strikes and spot pitches. The eye test is superior to stats when it comes to spotting relievers. ERA is irrelevant as a few bad games blows it for the year. Nathan and Aguilera weren’t world beaters either unless you’re counting saves which is as good as errors as far as counting stats. As far as Lawerysons age, if he pitches good for a season or two what does that matter?- 37 replies
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Also, being able to keep a guy like Enrique Hernandez around all year with a middling OPS and barely playable all year just to know once the playoffs come around he’ll be a nearly .900 OPS in the playoffs year in year out. Guys like that who always seem to be found and kept on the roster all year by these big teams just baffles me. But they all have them when they make those runs.
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Kinda reminds me of those 2000’s Twins teams. Always one big pitcher or one big bat short for the title run. Play the game right all season only to not have enough to push them over the edge for a true title run.
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Love this! Everyone talks about how the Twins need to spend like this team and that team. Complaining how they can’t compete. How they need to be able to spend. No, they need to create an identity, a culture. They had one. They hit HR’s. They brought in guys who could hit bombs and taught guys to hit bombs. They still bring in guys on the pitching side and develop them. They take guys who are failed starters or other teams scrap guys with upside and turn them into something. Then they tried to shift heaven and earth to bring in Correa. To bring the Astros identity in. Try to spend like the big dogs when even the Astros didn’t want to pay him. Bringing in Correa and spending, the big FA, to change the culture and identity instead of focusing on the identity. Then they switched the identity. Falvey needs to figure out who they are. The identity should last for a decade. Not a few years. In that identity you bring in guys to implement your strategy. They lost themselves somewhere between ‘23/‘24. One can blame the Pohlads but one can also blame everyone involved in not implementing the plan of their identity
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Nolan McLean, Jett Williams, Dylan Ross, Chris Suero for Joe Ryan. That is a haul for a guy 2 years away from free agency. A top guy that tends to wear down in August and September and also a guy that will be turning 30 this year. I’d also be in on Jonah Tong instead of McLean but the Mets would probably need to add a lottery ticket in with him as well. Maybe Yovanny Rodriguez. I think this is a fair and balanced trade that helps both teams and isn’t crazy.
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Three Internal Options to Help Rebuild Twins Bullpen
TNtwins85 replied to Cody Pirkl's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
As far as Laweryson or any other reliever I’ll never look at stats. It’s eye test 90% and K/BB to IP. The eye test showed he had command at hitting the corners and up and down. If he could get another 2-3mph he’s a solid reliever.- 37 replies
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