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  1. I guess I’m not a scout but it’s a small sample size and for Berrios I’m just not impressed yet with the return. Maybe he becomes the best pitcher in mlb. But his track record makes me wonder and I’m not sure I pull that deal at this time.
  2. I’m not sure it does but if my package is Allen, Dominguez and Megill or even add Mauricio in there for good measure. If that’s the package for Berrios I’m keeping Berrios for next year. If they keep him you know they’ll get offers for him over the winter and next year. It’s just that he’s more valuable right now. So if his value is at its height and that’s the package I’m getting I’m saying no and taking my chances. That’s what I’m saying. This package is very underwhelming
  3. True, but are we really getting excited over an Allen, Dominguez, Megill trade for Berrios? I’m not. I’d take Berrios in ‘22 and let him walk for the comp pick in that scenario.
  4. I just don’t see a trade scenario where the Twins get true immediate value for next year. Out of all the teams that could conceivably be in on Berrios the Mets are probably at the bottom. It’s nice to have them in the bidding war but really you’re hoping the Jays, dodgers and Padres get into a bidding war for him. That’s the ideal scenario I think
  5. On baseball trade values I just threw in your guys you stated on here and a few others and it’s still miles apart. Could you hope you catch lightning in a bottle with this group? Sure! But unless you put Rocker in there as a ptbnl there’s really no one in their system that says it’s a no brainer. Unless magically we get Syndergaard already signed to a super team friendly deal included in there. I’m not keen on trading with the Mets unless they literally offer the whole system dang near haha
  6. We’ve all known it since the rumblings years ago about extensions not being done with Berrios. This guy is betting big on himself and that’s fine. This guy needs to be traded and we need to get some legit prospects for him. His value will never be higher than in the next week. Let’s stop thinking he’s staying and let’s take the haul and hope we hit on 50% of the prospects we get back
  7. I’d take the dodgers trade. With San Diego I’d replace Hassell with Gore. I don’t care how he’s pitching right now. He’s a stud and that’s who you want. If I can’t have Gore then I want Abrams. The twins absolutely do not need another outfielder. Especially one who’s so far away at this point. If I’m having to trade Berrios and Rogers I don’t want an outfielder as the centerpiece. You’ve either got to have a potential elite SP or the potential elite SS. If we get the SS Royce Lewis goes to centerfield. If we get the SP Lewis still goes to CF. Cause let’s be honest. That’s his destiny. Unless Buxton signs the long term deal in which case Lewis is still playing half the season there anyways
  8. I’ve gotta think that if it’s even close to a reasonable deal with all the incentives Buxton has to take the deal. Unless he’s willing to push all of his chips on the table and believe that he’s gonna A. Play more than 120 games next year. B. Play even close to what he has this year in limited action and C. Convince a team that he’s got say 6-7 seasons left of 25+million worth of value left in his body. All based on the menial number of games he’s played this year and years before. He’s gotta take the twins deal. Maybe like I said he’s seriously pushing everything into the middle for next season.
  9. Cruz is a fit here! Why in the world would we target Deichmann? We don’t need more outfielders we need pitchers. What about Puk? Seems like he’s faded as well. Another good reclamation change of scenery guy with electric stuff. If nothing else he slides to the bullpen as a shutdown guy. A good fit in a Cruz only trade I believe! It’s one of those rare win win scenarios
  10. Personally I love Arraez and think we need him on this team. If I had to part with anyone and let’s assume Donaldson is staying I probably part with Polanco to keep Arraez in the infield. At this point I don’t think you part with a 24yo with his hitting and OBP skills. He should be part of this team going forward. As for Miranda. He can be groomed for 3rd. Arraez should be at the keystone every night with Gordon as the utility.
  11. I posted in another thread the trade simulator and if I remember correctly a Berrios and Rogers package would line up with a package of Pearson, Woods-Richardson or Manoah and a couple low level lottery tickets. That’s a pretty good haul. I believe Berrios alone nets at least Pearson and Kloffenstein. That’s the real value for value. Hard to say no to that if we’re looking for impact pitching
  12. Exactly!!! Let’s remember what was In place before the Falvine era. Terry Ryan and a bunch of guys still flying off the late 80’s and early 90’s way of doing things as the league was undergoing a massive shift. I remember a quote from a front office guy from another team saying the twins were far behind in the analytics/modern way of baseball scouting and development. It showed!!! I’m surprised they’ve changed the culture as fast as they have. I think we forget how bad the twenty teens were. A Pohlad fired a Ryan and a Gardenhire. Guys who were immortals in the day.
  13. It’s a tough call. I think Berrios is going to test FA no matter what from the sounds of where extension talks have run. So I think the twins will have to massively overpay him for an extension. If that’s the case you ask one question. If Pearson or Gore are on the table would you prefer 6-7 years of either one of them? Or would you like 6-8 years of Berrios at $25-$30M? Also, if we take the latter we’re talking about a smaller pitcher who’s never really had an ACE season venturing into his 30’s at the back end of that contract. Personally I’d take my chances on trying to overachieve next year with an eye toward 2023 and beyond with what hopefully amounts to a stud pitcher rather than holding the bag after 2022 and hoping to stay competitive past that. If we sell high on these guys now and get back some really good pieces there’s no reason we can’t surprise teams next year and have a really solid team going forward. There’s pieces in place. This team is not like the ‘11-‘15 clubs that were destined for 100 losses every year. This is a crossroads for sure!
  14. Absolutely!!! Heck, why don’t we take one of each. Gavin Williams with the first round pick and then a prepster who falls or has good upside with their next pick. Seems legit to me!
  15. The Twins need to start drafting pitchers in the first 2 rounds period! Kohl Stewart was the right choice when he was drafted. You don’t win the lottery if you never buy a ticket.
  16. We need pitchers!!!! College pitchers preferably who can be up in 2-3 years. Load the system like KC and Detroit have done. Enough outfielders. Enough with drafting 1st basemen with average power. If we’re simply gonna draft outfielders to supply the rest of the league with our over supply how about we skip that step and let them draft them. We need to take that mentality to pitching. How about we supply the league with our over supply of pitching? We need to be drafting pitchers!!!! Rant over. Haha
  17. This is very true but to this point neither Berrios or Buxton have been willing to sign extensions. Maybe Buxton does after realizing he’s probably not getting his huge payday in FA due to the fact that he can’t stay healthy for more than 100 games and takes the guaranteed money from the twins rather than gambling on having another big year next year. Berrios on the other hand is going to FA. That’s apparent at this point. As for Rogers. Relievers on the other side of 30 tend not to fair well and if we can get a haul for both Berrios and Rogers you do it! Imagine if we would’ve traded hunter, Cuddyer and a few others instead of getting a load of CB picks which literally amounted to nothing. This team isn’t that far off and reloading with some near major league talent instead of lottery tickets makes this go faster. Let’s remember that KC and Detroit are developing some strong pitching and we need a lot more!!!!
  18. Pearson and Woods-Richardson for Berrios, Cruz and a throw in.
  19. As much as I’ve questioned his moves I think you give him next year if we’re retooling for ‘22. He needs an experienced bench coach next to him and we need a new hitting coach.
  20. I’ll take the first 2 deals hands down. Rogers is getting old and we need to get something for him. Remember Glen Perkins ‘13-‘15? Would’ve been great to have some extra fire power in ‘17, ‘19 and ‘20 from a Perkins trade from his peak years. What could’ve he brought in? Anyways, Rogers is in the same spot here and so are the twins. Who knows, maybe we still compete next year with or without him with what we get back in our July trades this year. Retool. Not Rebuild
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