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  1. TwinsDr2021
    One of your best, pretty deep SCSU reference (I like it) wonder how many will get it.
  2. TwinsDr2021
    If we are being honest the current FO does a pretty decent job of moving guys fairly quickly, so I really have no complaints about that. What they don't do well is drafting pitchers that stay healthy, they do seem to have an eye for talented pitchers to their credit. Plus when you are drafting college seniors they have to move pretty fast, because they start off on the old side of prospect lists. For example Steer is almost 25, don't mean it to be bad but if they moved him slower, how old would he before debuting. Comparing the twins to the braves is probably not fair, because the Braves had a pretty constant steam of extremely young guys breaking into the majors (the ones mentioned plus, freeman, Acuna, Albies, Riley, Swanson, Wright, Fried, Conterras, Soroka, Anderson, Wilson) I would guess more teams are like the Twins than the Braves.
  3. TwinsDr2021
    I am calling BS on this </s>, it could not have happened. Strider pitched 12 innings in 2020 in college, 94 in 21 and is up to 120.2 there is no way a team would increase the innings that much and risk injury. Next you are going to say he threw 103 pitches in 6 innings last night. Harris as a 18 year old played 53 games in 2019, 0 in 2020, 101 at A+ in 2021, 43 at AA, no team would bring up a player that quickly after only hitting .305 in AA. Rumor has it they also brought up Vaughn Grissom this year at age 21 who was drafted in the 11th round in 2019. He only played 44 games at age 18 in 2019, 0 games in 2020, and 74 at A+ and 22 in AA this year.
  4. TwinsDr2021
    You know what amazes me is how the Twins don't have one Spencer Strider type, a 23 year old pitcher that has started at lest the 6th inning in 11 of his 15 starts and was drafted in the 4th round of 2020. Or how 12 pitchers just yesterday went a minimum of 6 innings, don't these teams know about pitch count, batters faced and TTO? The last time a Twins pitcher went 6 innings was August 26th. and since then the Twins starters have given up 3,3,4,2,5(Mahle), 5,8,5,9,6, and 1 hit (Gray 5 innings). And the worst 4 were wins.
  5. TwinsDr2021
    Well I wrote that bad or you misinterpreted what I wrote, nobody expects this team or any team to have all 5 starters go the distance or even 6,7,8 innings every game, but I do expect a FO to be able to have one at least maybe two that on good days can get deep into games, then a guy or two that can get you into the 7th, and your 4 and 5 starters hopefully get 5 decent innings and maybe more on good days. But if you throwing out a starter that basically has little chance to even get you 5 (or you are going to pull after 5 no matter how well they are pitching), then maybe try something different with them. NO where ever I have said the standard for any SP is to complete a game, I have never even said the standard for a pitcher is to pitch 7 innings every game. Do I expect somebody your traded a first round pick for to have more than 1/3 games be a minimum of 6 innings, yup I do. As for your last paragraph you are just making stuff up, why I have no idea. Edit - I hate no pitchers not even Pagan or anybody that hasn't been good, I wish them all well even if I don't want them pitching in the majors for my favorite team.
  6. TwinsDr2021
    Did Megill spit in your water or something? Going into the Yanks series he had a 3.58 ERA, after having an ERA of over 8 with the Cubs?
  7. TwinsDr2021
    I don't remember the exact number, but I head that the Twins have ended the game or at least their last at bat with a fly ball to track 7 or 8 times, which seems like they are trying to hit a homer even if a single would score 1 or 2.
  8. TwinsDr2021
    The only way this strategy works is to have a lot of cheap talented pitchers, so far the Twins only have the cheap part. Because no matter how much baseball has changed at the end of the year you still have to pitch around 1458 innings. Currently it looks like the Twins have pitched a hair under 1200 and Ryan, Gray, Bundy and Archer have pitched just 37% of those innings.
  9. TwinsDr2021
    Is this first two paragraphs satire? We are now blaming the fans for FO's roster construction and minor league teachings? I would ask the question, does anybody on this site expect 5 pitchers to be able to complete games? I assume that answer is no. (or at least should be )Do the fans expect 5 starters to even go more than 5 innings? Again I would assume that answer is no. Do the Fans expect a couple of starters to be able to finish a couple of games a year or even pitch into the 8th a few times a year? I think that answer is yes. Do fans assume a pitcher that has given up 1 hit and no runs in 5 innings to come out for the 6th? I think that is a reasonable expectation. Do fans assume some games a guy is going to have a high pitch count after 5 innings and be pulled, again that is going to happen to all pitchers so it is going to happen. Do fans generally hate "starters" (yes) do we understand it is going to happen for whatever reason, I believe so. Do fans hate being lied to? Yes And every time somebody claims that what the Twins are doing is exactly what everybody else is doing is lying. And if the response is well the Twins just don't have good pitchers, Then lets stop talking about batters faced, pitch count, innings and blast this FO for putting the team in this situation, because it is getting sickening reading/listening to people run cover for this FO.
  10. TwinsDr2021
    Could Duran be added to this list?
  11. TwinsDr2021
    "Four pitchers have made the vast majority of starts for the Twins this season. Among them, Sonny Gray is the only one you would even consider for a top spot or two in a good rotation. Joe Ryan, " That is the most important and maybe accurate thing written. What year are we in with this FO? and this is what they have to show for a starting rotation?
  12. TwinsDr2021
    I find it very confusing on what the hell the Twins are doing. I would have been fine with Varland being taken out after the 5th with Judge coming up, but if you bring him out for the 6th let him f'n pitch.
  13. TwinsDr2021
    To be honest there has been so many it is hard to believe this team is where it is at. Bullpen, Sano, AK, Laranch, to me Gray has been a disappointment he might get to 130 innings? Polanco, Correa, Buxton (really more of a top of the lineup things for long stretches) the list goes on and on. But the biggest has to be the injuries to the pipeline or just pitchers in general. Pagen isn't a huge disappointment to me, didn't think he would be more than a middle relief guy, it is a bigger disappoint that he is still on the team and that isn't on him.
  14. TwinsDr2021
    Dobnak's story is pretty amazing, but that doesn't change the fact his career WAR is negative. And if this front office wants to call that a success congrats to them, I mean with that standard there can be no failures right? Sure 2019 was a great 28.1 innings, very similar to the first three starts of Andrew Albers another huge success right? I am sure the front office appreciates you having their back.
  15. TwinsDr2021
    If they didn't really want Cruz, who is to say he wouldn't have been? He was on their 40 and had just gotten back from the Olympics, the twins got him sent him to pitch in St. Paul for 2 short starts and brought him up.
  16. TwinsDr2021
    Seth are you jockeying for Randballs stu's job? Ryan pitched 9 innings in the Twins minor leagues, he is no different than Odo, Maeda, Gray and any of trade they have made. If anything him staying healthy makes this FO looks worse with all the other injuries to pitchers. Duran is a successful bullpen arm and Jax the same, is that that the level of success the Twins and us fans are looking for? Winder and Ober haven't done jack yet, they should and could, but as of now both have barely pitched and gotten hurt and have been glorified long relievers. Ober in his 27 career starts has qualified for a win 15 times, meaning in just over half of his games has he even went 5 innings. (I know and understand why that is, but until that number turns into quality starts he is no success story as a developed major league pitcher, on a personal level it is a huge success story for Bailey and he should be darn proud of what he has done and overcome.) If that is all we are looking for why did they ever get rid of the last FO, I mean names like Rogers, Pressly, May, Perkins, Gibson, Berrios, Duffey, Duensing, Swarzak, Guerrier, Diamond, Albers, Hendriks, Liriano, Blackburn, Baker, Slowey,
  17. TwinsDr2021
    I give Kudos for him facing Arraez, but I disagree it cheapens a no hitter, does Eric Milton's no hitter basically against a minor league team mean less? In high school I pitched my only no hitter in my life, and with one out in the 7th I unintentionally/intentionally walked the other teams best hitter (an all metro player) to face a kid that couldn't touch my stuff that day or any other time I pitched against him, he weakly hit a ball back to me and we turned a double play and I don't feel it means any less. A no hitter is always better than a one hitter no matter how you got there.
  18. TwinsDr2021
    It might not make sense, but history shows this to be true true statement, maybe the next few years will prove different (because of Covid) or asking so much less from starters in the past then now may change this as well but asking a older (in terms of baseball) pitcher to do something he hasn't done in the past usually is setting up failure. Maybe only asking these guys to go 5 or only face a lineup twice will greatly improve their odds of being major league pitchers or give them time to get their feet wet to become somebody that can go deeper. Some of these guys aren't much younger than Stephen Gonsalves and haven't done what he did in his early twenties in the minors and he is 28 pitching in AAA. I hope this group of Twins pitchers break the overwhelming odds, I am just not going to get overly excited about them doing it, am I cheering for that absolutely. Hopefully Varland can come up this year and do great in each 5 inning start and next year go further and in 24 he is top pitcher consistently pitching in the 7th or later. But if forced to bet real money, I am betting against all of them being anything more than a bullpen or 5 inning pitcher.
  19. TwinsDr2021
    In the last 12 games the longest he has went is 5 1/3, he isn't winning any games alone, let alone big games, but what he is doing is giving the twins 5 mostly decent innings and handing the second half of the game to the bullpen to finish it out. (Just over half of the time it is with 2 runs or less which is good) The Twins are 11 - 13 in his starts, which is better than Archer's 8 - 16 so there is that. It is kind of crazy that the two FA signings have the Twins at 19 - 29 and somehow they are still 3 games over .500 As for the 3 mentioned I agree with Theilbar and Urshela, not sure how a guy playing like Celestino would be underappreciated unless of course we are talking about how he is available to play everyday because he isn't hurt and not being hurt on the Twins seems like a pretty big deal.
  20. TwinsDr2021
    Congrats Mr. Varland, hopefully this is the start of long prosperous career.
  21. TwinsDr2021
    I was all in on the Mahle trade and still have hopes for it next year or fingers crossed in the playoffs. But I think it fair to say at this point in time the trade sucks, they have gotten one good game out of him and at this point I don't care about the prospects given up, someday in the future people can figure out how it worked out in the end, but as of today (9/5) it sucks, simple as that. I was hoping for a guy that pitched the last 11 games for the Reds. 100 pitchers, 6 plus innings, instead the twins have gotten 16.33, which means more bullpen innings and lesser starters pitching.
  22. TwinsDr2021
    Did he show those stats to be predictive? Or just to show how the Twins got to their record? I took it as how they got to be 3 games over .500, maybe I missed it, is he trying to say because 23 of the last 30 are against the central or only 10 of 30 are against better than .500 the Twins should be fine?
  23. TwinsDr2021
    The Huge difference here is that Blyleven pitched 267 innings, Viola pitched 251.22 for a total of 518 1/3 innings. To be honest Straker (debuted at age 27), Smithson (debuted at age 27) and Niekro were ahead of their time averaging about 5 innings a start but mostly because they were generally not all that great because when they were on they all pitched 7 plus inning games. And Reardon pitched 80.33, Berenguer 112, Frazier 81.33, Atherton 79.33. They basically pitched the heck out of their best pitchers and rode them to a world series. So far Ryan 118.33, Bundy 118.33, Gray 104.66 and archer 95.66 have combined for 436.98 (the 4 might just get over what the the top two did), this years club is trying to ride and I use that world loosely about 20 pitchers Th 87 twins had 4 guys with over 28 homers, this years club so far 1 with over 16, in the day and age of hitting homers to score that isn't good. The 87 Twins had 4 players (3 catchers) under .238 BA, the 22 Twins have at least 10-12. 87 stole 113 bases this year 27. So I agree comparing the two teams isn't worth trying they were nothing alike, other than in a crappy division.
  24. TwinsDr2021
    My post wasn't suppose to be a concern, but in the recent history (like last 30+ years) very few starting pitchers that debut after the age of 24 turn out to be top of the rotation starters (Nick Blackburn and Mike Clevinger debuted at 25 for example), lots of dominant bullpen guys debut at that age or later, so in general if you have an arm in the minors that hasn't debuted by age 25 the overwhelming odds say that guy will pitch out of the pen or have just a couple of decent seasons as a starter at best. Next year the Twins will have a 25 year old Varland, 26 year old Winder and 27 year old Ober fighting to just make the team in the pen with one maybe getting a starting job (Gray, Ryan, Mahle, Maeda and Paddack coming back) Now I think the Twins might looks to trade Gray for example which might open up a spot or even Mahle if he isn't happy here (not saying he isn't but if he is not), but I also see the Twins bringing in a Bundy/Archer type for depth. And While these guys are getting older the next group of younger, shinier guys will be here in no time, hopefully, fingers crossed. Nelson Cruz debuted at 24 but wasn't full time until he was 28 but was suspended at age 32 for role in the Biogenesis drug case so maybe not the best example?
  25. TwinsDr2021
    There ages don't matter, I was just pointing out at their ages shouldn't they dominate the minors? Varland is and Winder minus a few homers and if healthy probably would be in the big leagues. But I guess my comment was also about this "Must be fun being a Saints fan. " The Saints are under .500 with all these players, not sure how well that bodes for the Twins.
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