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I would argue this was the perfect game for Pagen to come in for two innings and close the game out and not waste Lopez and Stewart in a 8 - 0 game, but what do I know.
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He was averaging 12 pitchers per inning, if he goes one more he is still under 100 pitches. Is that the absolute limit? if so that is sad, the other starter threw 102. My observation of the game was, the offense finally came though when needed. Maybe give Buxton and Correa another day off. As for pitching two complete opposite approaches one pitcher ran his pitch count up, lasted 4.2 innings recorded 13 outs of which 8 were K's. The other pitcher was way more efficient lasted 7 innings but only had 5 K's. Give me the more efficient pitcher every time, Maybe Gray could learn a thing or two about not trying to strike out every batter.
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This FO has had 8 drafts and not one star? Maybe Lewis but 7 years later, possibly Lee but he is still in AA? Getting stars in other way? who might that be, besides a massive contract(s) for Correa? Maybe Duran but as of now he has all of89 innings. I will add isn't it the FO job to hire coaches? Now, they could turn this season around and win a playoff game or two or possibly a series and I would say they deserve another chance, but if not clean house, starting at the top. Remember they were handed future stars all over the diamond (Berrios, Pressly, Rogers, Dozier, Escobar, Sano, Polanco, Arreaz, Buxton, Kepler, Rosario, Miranda, AK, Garver, Gordon, and few mid tier pitchers) and turned it into 21, 22, and a 23 season going downhill. I am not saying everything they have done is bad, they have made some good to great signings and trades, but as whole besides 2019 and a flukely 2020 season call me disappointed so far in their tenure.
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Question for you (because I 100% agree with what your said) As of today has this FO done enough in 7 years to keep their job going forward. (I understand there is a long season to go to change everybody opinions) My two cents without at least a playoff win, I say no.
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It's Okay to be Impressed by the Twins
TwinsDr2021 replied to Matt Braun's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
My prediction was 90+ wins, with this starting pitching and my thought was the offense would be a bit better than average, not this Sh!t show they are running out everyday. As for the youth movement, this is the 7th year of this FO and after the last two anything less than a playoff win is unacceptable to me and it seems they are thinking the same. I thought Ober or Varland should have been in the rotation to start (youth), and that Julien started the season in the majors again slowly implementing the youth, with the hope of AK and Lewis would be coming up.- 39 replies
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It's Okay to be Impressed by the Twins
TwinsDr2021 replied to Matt Braun's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
Can we please stop with the ridiculous comparisons like this . These things should be celebrated; we should be shouting from the roof that their fifth starter is Louie Varland—a 25-year-old who throws 95, has 60 major-league innings under his belt, and still owns a better xFIP than Gerrit Cole. Varland (Who I like and has been great) has pitched all of 34 innings, Cole has pitched 73.2. That is like saying Gray who is second in the majors in ERA but only has 4 quality starts and is 46th in the majors in innings is in the top tier of pitchers in the league, he has been good but every inning he doesn't pitch before the 8th leaves a way less pitcher trying to win the game.- 39 replies
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Short Start - Check More than 10 strike outs - Check 6 or less hits - Check 2 or less runs - Check Seems like a pretty standard day at the park for the Twins.
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Roster Crunch? Who stays, who goes?
TwinsDr2021 replied to stringer bell's topic in Minnesota Twins Talk
Varland has made 6 starts and only twice went less than 6 innings, which is way better percentage than Gray. Not sure how the Twins justify sending him down. Way different scenario than Wallner. He doesn't need any more minor league innings -
Not saying it would affect these type of players. What I was trying to say was if teams could manipulate those young players by having more years of control early and then though the arbitration years, I believe they would. IDK, maybe that is what they are doing with them now, if they don't scream superstar they have them spend more time in the lower minors in hope other teams won't take them?
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I don't get this argument, back in the threads about a new labor agreement most everybody was backing the players, this rule would totally not be in the players best interest to change, teams are already manipulating the players and there time. For example Ober, Wallner, Ryan, Varland, Julien all got late starts and thus will probably lose out on getting more than one big contract (if event that), Compared to guys like Buxton and Correa who got an early start. As for this guy he is in low A at age 22, to me that isn't much of a prospect unless he gets to at least AA this year. Otherwise he is just another mid 20's guy taking up a 40 man spot.
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Blue Jays 3, Twins 0: Time to Do Something Else
TwinsDr2021 replied to Steven Trefz's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
By all means lets give this FO another chance to rebuild, I a mean 7 years can't possibly enough time evaluate this FO.- 77 replies
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Not saying any other manger would have gotten more wins out of that team, but, he showed IMO in 2019 he didn't have what it took to be a successful manager, wins aren't everything when it comes to a manager. I thought he made a ton of mistakes, got out managed, was bailed out by the Bomba squad and played one a super easy schedule. and IMO he wasn't the type of manager that was going to lead the Twins to the World Series. (Maybe that changes this year or next and I am wrong, I really, really hope I am wrong but as of today I am not)
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Well besides a flukely 2020 season (which they didn't win a playoff game in ) I have been way more right than wrong.
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I would have fired him after 2019, to me it was obvious he wasn't ever going to be a great manager IMO. I also said in 2016 the Vikings should fire Zimmer (only took the Vikings 5 years to see what I seen) If the Twins don't make the playoffs and win at least one game I would fire this FO and Manager.
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To me this is more than Pagen, it is the mid 20 and older pitchers on the 40 that are injured, aren't good or they don't trust. SWR, Winder, Sands, Henriquez, Headrick, Canterino, Balazovic, Alcala. With little to no other top prospects on the horizon. Prielipp (4 innings in A+), Raya (14 innings A+), Festa (5.58 ERA AA) So the Twins cut him, who do we get more of? the list above? Another 30 year has been or never was? The thing this FO needs to admit is that can't identify or groom top end talent, they are great at identifying role players and middle relief pitchers.
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Giants 4, Twins 3: As Bad As It Gets?
TwinsDr2021 replied to Steven Trefz's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
The last two loses, SP - 10 innings, RP -8 innings (8 pitchers), on top of an unwatchable offensive it is going to be tough to win games with that formula. -
Not sure that is possible, does any team have that? You do need at least 3 and up to 5 would be awesome. The problem isn't who Rocco puts in (IMO) it is the idea of using a pitcher for just 1 innings, Which works great like in the begging of the season when the starts were all going 6 innings, but when you have a couple of starters falter you have to change that up and let some guy go longer. For example Monday's game down 5 - 2, Stewart only goes 1.1, then basically it was going to be a 1 inning guy each of the next innings, which might have been fine but it went 12. Down 5 - 2, they should have brought a pitcher in that they expected to go at least 2 innings, probably 3, even if they give up a run or two who cares, you can't blow up your pen for one games, because it ends up costing you in others as well.
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Expecting 5 clean innings from mediocre relief pitchers is crazy. After only getting 4 2/3 from Lopez in game 1, and then using your 5 best relief pitchers in a loss, you had to see this coming. Ober did a great job of giving 6 innings and giving the pen a rest, but instead of getting a real rest, they used 3 more relief pitchers. Last nights game was set up for Gray long day, and if not things weren't going to go well the good guys, because of the previous days bullpen usage. This team isn't really all that hard to figure out, most of what they do isn't all that hard to figure out.
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You left out Alcala (27) and for the Now, Really only Ryan has proved himself, I believe Varland, Ober, Jeffers and Duran are real close, AK and healthy and if you want to include Jax. Ages of the players you listed Now; 25,25,25,24,28,27,24,24,26,22,23,27,26,28 Soon: 24,22, 23,23,26, 23, 26, 27 What I see is two possible better than average offense players, Lewis and Lee, (Maybe Julien as well), Maybe two starting pitchers Festa and SWR. and a bunch of fill ins and relief pitchers (both which are important)
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💯agree he needs to be stay in the minors and develop and improve, keeping guys in the minors until late age 23 early 24 or later as worked amazing well so far all the other prospects, I mean they are filling in the holes and succeeding on the major league level right? I am mean look at all the names on the Twins roster that this FO has developed, too many to list or maybe not enough to list, not sure. I am not saying he should be called up, by why not call him up stick him at third for a couple of weeks and see how it goes, he may never see the minors again or he may need more time back in the minors to learn a few things. But the one thing he won't be is a savior and that shouldn't be expected, but now is the perfect time, Miranda is back in the minors Lewis isn't ready yet. There is plenty of trash on the 40 man so I am not worried about. Just an FYI there are more guys in the majors that are younger than him, then there are guys on the Twins this FO has drafted and it isn't even close.
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Who Have Been The Luckiest and Unluckiest Minnesota Twins Batters in 2023?
TwinsDr2021 commented on Matthew Taylor's article in Twins
I also would prefer the Twins had more Hall of Fame players on their current roster.- 8 comments
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Carlos Correa Doesn’t Deserve Boos at Home
TwinsDr2021 replied to Melissa Berman's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
"Slumps are a part of baseball. They come and go, and everyone goes through them." What Carlos is going though isn't a normal slump, that is 10, 20 , maybe 30 at bats, he is at 147. So were people booing him 100 at bats ago? Not that I have heard, have the fans been booing Gordon or Gallo? As a fan what other way is there to tell a player we aren't happy with the way you are playing right now? I don't get to tell him I just dropped a half of my week's salary to bring my family to watch the game and you played like garbage and have been playing like garbage. This is what they signed up for when they decided to make a career out of a game that people have to pay to watch. With that said they didn't sign up for or deserve to be ridiculed out side of the playing field. -
Byron Buxton Making One Dimensional Work
TwinsDr2021 replied to Ted Schwerzler 's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
Is good, good enough? His oWAR after 34 games is .8, in 92 last last year it was 3.2, in 61 games in 21 it was 3.5. It 39 games in 20 it was 1.0, and in 87 games in 19 it was 2.1. In my quick view, it looks like this year is his worst hitting year since 18, now I understand worst is relative. If my math is correct and he plays the same amount of games the rest of the year that will put him at 148/149 and if he stays the same his oWAR will end up a hair under 3.5. I guess I was hoping that this DH role would allow him to play more games but still hit like he was the last two years. -
What should the Twins do with Jose Miranda?
TwinsDr2021 replied to Hunter McCall's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
My point was referencing how you create room on the 40 man, and IMO this is a legit way (both seem fairly low on the Twins depth chart), saying two of the worst teams in the MLB don't have room for guys that are good enough to help a team compete for a division title but aren't good enough (with lots of control left) for a last place team seems like a interesting take. Does this happen often? I don't know but I thought this FO was supposed be a thinking outside the box FO.

