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  1. old nurse
    They know that fans come with winning baseball.
  2. old nurse
    The agents and clubs have to work together again so neither party is going to throw much shade on the other. Contracts are negotiations, not a one and done bid. The Twins have a known bid. Nobody said they wouldn’t do higher. That point is lost. The contract ultimately negotiated is higher by far than any other SS contract. How did it get negotiated to that point. Granted logic flies out the window in free agency this year, but the final contract did not come out of nowhere. People also do not know if the Twins dropped out or were dropped. Carlos Correa said all the right words, interacted with team mates in all of the right ways. Still in this day and age it feels like you have to treat everyone like a used car salesman. Given an option there are players who want to be in certain areas. Ohtani mentioned it, Wheeler mentioned it, Mad Bum mentioned it It exists. Why would Correa want to move on from Minneapolis? He stated about when he walks into the Dior Store. There isn’t one here
  3. old nurse
    Every year teams sign players to fill out the AAA roster. Nothing to get excited about, which rarely happens. No reason for anyone to complain, yet ……..
  4. old nurse
    My point was about the process. Yes if the Twins offered 360 million blah blah blah. And more blah. At some point the negotiation stopped. It is pointless to try to explain it once again, you are seemingly unable to either understand my point or just unwilling to accept the possibility. 60 million over what was the highest shortstop contract is not foreseeable.
  5. old nurse
    Oh come on yourself. The point I made still stands. Yes the money offered by the Twins was far less than San Francisco. It was not far less than the top contract signed this year by a similar player at that point in time. Which of the two is better is an opinion, not a fact. You don’t know if the Twins ever had a chance to match the offer or if negations were ended there. Because one or the other party ended there
  6. old nurse
    That does not change that they took a team friendly deal rather than eventually the arbitration system. Even if free agency players have taken less money to be with a team
  7. old nurse
    They all are team friendly deals. All are deals based on past work and future potential just like a free agent contract. Just like a free agent contract, not all worked out as planned. Just ask the most expensive AAA player Mr Dobnak
  8. old nurse
    10 and 285 is one less year than Turner got. It is not far off the benchmark of that contract when many to most evaluations put Turner ahead of Correa. What is not known is what happened between offer and signing. No party is going to say anything that shows the other party in a bad light. They will all need each other again.
  9. old nurse
    Most anybody sees through insincerity Explain the why Buxton, Pplanco, Kepler and Sanyo all signed team friendly deals
  10. old nurse
    What a team with 60 million more in revenue is the problem. If you look at career numbers Correa, Turner and Bogarts are all close on fear. The teams that can put out the 300 million dollar contracts are limited. There was one more than what was expected. The thing is at a shorter contract of 10/285 were known to be possible perhaps the Dodgers and/or Yankees would have started to consider. Did Boras use the Twins. Yes. It is prudent to have a fallback plan. Did the FO here know that? Likely, it is Boras. Did the FO miss out of anyone who would have, could have or was worth that money? Nope For whatever reason the aging curve on middle infielders is not good. Drop off at around age 32 with an occasional year where the player finds the fountain of youth. The analytics people have more than likely dissected this. Should they have offered Correa a 10 year contract last year for the 300 million or so like Seagar got? Hindsight is so clear
  11. old nurse
    A bird in hand comes to mind. The 359 in hand is far better than 305. You bet on yourself in your 20s, not 30s. Buxton bet on himself and won. Polanco, Sanyo, and Kepler took the money. 2 out of the three probably won. With Polanco’d injuries, he may also have won
  12. old nurse
    The difference is not having a good player for maybe 3-6 years versus 6-10 years. Option 1 can be managed, option 2 cripples the team
  13. old nurse
    The Correa deal only makes sense if the Giants are intent on keeping under the tax threshold, think he will still be elite at 35 and sill have a little value at 40. That is a high risk move. They Giants are a little desperate to win. Forbes had them at $185 per fan in revenue. The million less in attendance from their heyday puts a lot of pressure to win. I would not be surprised if Rodin gets a deal with them. As far as the Twins and money goes, they cannot buy their way out of the middle. Spending with caution. 10/285 is caution. They cannot afford to not be. Somewhere visible there must be a picture of Bill Smith hanging to remind them of that. I think there is also a picture of Matt Capps to remind them of trades
  14. old nurse
    Mocking what is viewed as stupidly ,mimicking it, or being iit The internet decision strikes again
  15. old nurse
    Cohen may get his championship and let the team wither, Loria spent and won. It will be interesting to see what happens if the Mets continue to fall just short
  16. old nurse
    This front office will likely be gone when you can say wether or not the aggressive spending of a team like Texas worked. Year one resulted in no change in attendance from pre-pandemic times and no change in record. It is really easy to say a team should be doing something differently Really hard to say what the right way is with free agency. Aggressive signing of free agents is an opinion. You can argue the Dombrowski method works, but that is 2 WS wins in a 25 year career and a team in disarray when he leaves
  17. old nurse
    Texas starting pitchers last year pitched almost as few as the Twins, They did not have any problems signing 3 pitchers. Interesting that you have to come up with an artificial scenario in your theory
  18. old nurse
    I think anybody without a no trade clause is available if the return is right. I think sometimes you have to put a little buzz out there. If the team gets an offer on anyone that has some level of replaceability the team will listen. If they come out ahead, bye bye player. The real question is who would anyone want? A league average outfielder, a reigning batting champion. If the FO thinks it is rebuilding time, starting pitching. I would not be surprised if a SP would be dealt if they liked what SWR or Varland showed last year. I would add that I don’t think any trades happen until Correa signs somewhere. That will be 2 months of angst for Twins fans if not 3
  19. old nurse
    According to Forbes the average revenue per fan is $54 Statistica says average ticket price is $22. Before anyone says anything similar to “$60 million !” Remember that revenue is shared after expenses. The $26m in gate is split somewhere in half and the $34 in merchandise and food has material and people cost to it. Those revenues are also shared after expenses are paid. Accountants and support staff cost money.
  20. old nurse
    Vazquez is considered 2nd best catcher on the market. When first best signs for 5/87 contract his agent is going to want close to that. That would be why he has suitors but no contract. 2/20 seems like a more reasonable number, but the agent has to hold out for unreasonable.
  21. old nurse
    Batted ball location would suggest that Kepler will benefit from the 2b no longer being able to be in short right. What the Twins have had to play in the outfield the last 2 years would indicate not the greatest outfield depth. The multiple injuries over the last 2 years show the need for depth If Miller is more than a back end starter as a ceiling the Mariners are not going to trade him for Kepler. Unless you think that Seattle is desperate enough for an OF. That desperation might not show itself until spring training
  22. old nurse
    Swanson had a career year in a contract year. A one year contract would be just fine. Not many middle infielders continue to produce past 33. Jeter was great until 35. I really can’t for the long term see them signing anybody for what Boras will demand
  23. old nurse
    Nearly all the trades proposed are not going to get done. Miami would be more likely to trade Lopez and prospects for a better RBI bat than Arraez and prospects. On the interesting side, Lopez is why you trade for low level prospects when your team is not doing well. He was part of a package for a reliever having a decent season. I really don’t think the Twins will trade Arraez unless they get a very good package back. He is available for a good price. If they intended on moving him for any other reason they would have kept Urshela
  24. old nurse
    IfArraez may well be what he was last year for 5-10 years. People are saying that he may have peaked. That Lopez is at the same point in his career the same be true for him. If a team was going to overpay Miami for a pitcher I would go for Max Murphy
  25. old nurse
    Arraez may well be what he was last year for 5-10 years. That Lopez had a career year last year also begs the question is that a peak for him? My bet would be Arraez over Lopez
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