Fatbat
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I sure like when we pick guys like this in the draft. For all the misses on the 1st rounders, we really do a great job at getting that role player talent. We do need to keep a couple of them around but what a great trade chip. Its not that we need Schoebel et al to start and develop into an allstar but dang, one of these guys will just on the law of averages. Keep the right one and sell the rest for needed assets.
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If the budget is down at 120M, we better be really bz at the trade deadline or rocking a few rookies that breakout in a huge way.
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- jorge polanco
- brooks lee
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Isn’t the payroll about112-115M range right now? Seems like there is plenty of room to pay for better pitching and a big bat. I would understand if they just play the fall back plan of bringing up a string of minor leaguers and see which one sticks. We certainly have enough that are close to mlb ready. Time is on our side so maybe we wait for someone to tank and then make a trade for a rental stud.
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- jorge polanco
- brooks lee
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Assessing the Twins' Trade of Jorge Polanco
Fatbat replied to Ted Schwerzler 's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
It’s plausible that the team finds a #2 hole guy that replaces Polo and then some. Not sure who that guy is but someone will step up. The clubhouse will not be the same tho.- 99 replies
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- jorge polanco
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Somehow by the trade deadline, yes. I believe that the FO knows they need a co ace to even have a chance at winning a 7 game series. Imagine that we go up 2-0 in a series knowing we got Ober and Ryan and then back to Pablo and Ace2. and all the potential stoppers in the pen. Pitching wins the WS. Every time.
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- jorge polanco
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Twins Daily 2024 Top Prospects: #11-15
Fatbat replied to Nick Nelson's topic in Twins Minor League Talk
This is a fun five guys! I believe Keaschall was rated anywhere from rd2- rd4 in the draft. So far he looks like a great pick! ‘24 could be a big year for Severino. How many DH ABs will he get now that polanco has been traded? June call up if he is hitting everything across the river? I keep forgetting how young Rosario is. Someone please teach him how to play RF or 1B. Something. Please.- 24 replies
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- luke keaschall
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Thats one way to look at it and I don’t disagree with you. What do say to someone that reflects back on the trade in a year from now and either wishes we had polo back for 12M or is happy the twins moved onto a guy making league minimum at DH/2B? Should the absence of that $12M option be spent? Im firmly in the camp of spending as much as they need to to win a WS. Trades like this are just fun to talk about. Doesn't really move the needle for me tho. Get me an actual front line starter. We got plenty of farm talent to fill position player holes.
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- jorge polanco
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What are the Twins Getting in Gabriel González?
Fatbat replied to Jamie Cameron's topic in Twins Minor League Talk
So he added 2” and 60 lbs in 2 years. 3 more years of development and he will likely be in MLB and on his way to a nice career. Great get for the twins!!! -
@cmoss84 and Falvey previously said the payroll would settle into the 125 to 140ish range. That would mean 12-30M more could be added in 2024 payroll. This trade is only a conduit to other moves that will improve the ‘24 roster.
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- jorge polanco
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Obviously but its an either/or. Pay 750k or 12M. Now its neither. If polo would not have been traded, one of those would have been paid. When the FO looks at the expected ‘25 budget, neither of those scenarios are there but are likely replaced by Lee’s rookie contract expense. Which was my original point. Where do you stop at the budget reallocation. How far do you travel down that road until you say the trade doesn’t have an effect on that cost.
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- jorge polanco
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I know that. You didn’t understand my point. There are many ways to talk about the dollars and the accounting of them. You should start with -10.5M for polo in ‘24, -750k possible buy out and -12M that we wont be paying polo in ‘25.
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- jorge polanco
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I agree. I just have issues with the way some justifications are stated and the way things are linked. For instance the whole 5.25M net. That includes paying the 40th guy on the roster. Why include that when we would have had to pay a 40th guy anyhow. Shouldn't that be separate? There is so many future tentacles to this deal but the pundits want to reach for a conclusion.
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- jorge polanco
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What Do the Twins Have in Reliever Justin Topa?
Fatbat replied to Cody Schoenmann's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
Based on fans in Seattle not liking Topa being traded away, it seems that he is going to be a fan favorite here. It seems he likes the high leverage situations so he might end up right next to Jax as a stopper. I am liking this trade more and more. -
You don’t see it but stated a way that it could happen. Strange. a career ending injury settlement is also possible but about as unlikely as him having a lights out season and being worth every penny. Yet here we are…
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- jorge polanco
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I know that its 5.25M. If he is gone at some point, that # goes up. there is also no $750k buyout of polo if he tanks and gets sent by Seattle and not us. If Seattle keeps him, that is irrelevant but his 12M salary for ‘25 still wont be paid by us. Thats an added benefit that is a guaranteed savings for the future.
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- jorge polanco
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If he is DFA’d, he doesn’t walk away with $12M. He gets sent down the road and the twins use the $$$ on someone else. so. The twins dont have to pay 10.5 for polo. they have the $8M in the bank now. They aren’t going to lose in this situation.
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- jorge polanco
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Joking but not joking if he is a joke. I will rant about DFA’ng if he sucks. Im starting to think this trade is mostly about $$$$. our farm can replace polo in 24. the $8M can buy Desclafanti’s replacement if he sucks.
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- jorge polanco
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Thats a good point but … 1. He may want to screw the brewers out of a QO comp pick. 2. If the Twins are rolling towards a deep run in the playoffs and have a 5 yr window to be perennial playoff team. He may want to be here.
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- jorge polanco
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@nicksaviking Burnes wants a big contract. We simply give him a 4-5 yr ext with an average of 26-28M. Defer some of it. Its a possible deal closer to july when the brew crew is 8 games down and floundering.
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- jorge polanco
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So we got 2 pitchers for the 26man roster. Prospects and cash. ALL of these as assets that Polo got us. With 4 players, polo will have tentacles for many years as these 5 assets play, and buy other assets to improve the team. It may not be a better team today but games dont really count until summer. We got a lot we can do by then because of this trade.
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- jorge polanco
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With at 115M payroll atm, Falvey has already said about 145M is a likely upper limit. Im not a smart man but I can do simple math.
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- jorge polanco
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Gonzalez is rated by MLB almost exactly where erod was a year ago. Erod is older and a year or so closer to an MLB debut so it makes sense he is rated 30 spots higher out of hundreds of prospects. On the Twins list, he is slotted in at #4 right by erod. these guys share profile similarities but also several differences. GG for sure improves our farm system but is at least 2 years away from MLB
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- jorge polanco
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Assessing the Twins' Trade of Jorge Polanco
Fatbat replied to Ted Schwerzler 's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
Watch some video on Topa, our bullpen is much better with him.- 99 replies
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