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What Was the Point of Signing Carlos Correa?
Twins GFP replied to Nick Nelson's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
Good question here Nick... It makes me wonder if the sale of the team has been in the works for longer than we think. Sign Correa, increase payroll, win a WS, then sell the team at a high point. Once that fell apart, along with the TV rights fiasco, they started cutting corners to provide better "value" to a buyer. -
The Twins Have a First Base Problem
Twins GFP replied to Greggory Masterson's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
Sorry, but I am not buying it. If the twins felt so strongly about their internal 1B options, why did they go out and spend money on a 38 yr old washed up 1B last season to shore up the position? Now... Santana was arguably the best FA signing by any team last offseason, but the signing did not reflect well on the internal options for the team. Kiriloff probably needs to be traded, as his stock in the organization is extremely down. Miranda is showing reason for optimism, but we have been here with him before and I am not yet ready to hand him the full-time reigns again. As this team will not spend any substantial money this offseason, re-signing Santana at another 1y/$6m probably makes the most sense. Even if the bat takes a dive, the glove will be there. He provides great insurance if Miranda falls off the cliff again. Also, I hope they make an early decision on Lewis this offseason, instead of throwing him to to the wolves like they did this year at 2B. If the Twins are going to give him time at 1B this year, tell him now so he can prepare for it all winter.- 85 replies
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Of all the potential trade candidates the Twins might discuss, trading Duran is the one I could get behind. I am not a huge believer in the super consistency of relievers. There are maybe 10 RPs in the league that are elite, the next level being "good to very good" depending on the year. His stuff may be electric, but Duran has shown to be very hittable at times. Putting the leadoff guy on base what... 35% of the time? Not exactly the MO of a lights out reliever. I am sure there is a team out there needing a closer that would overpay for Duran. Moving Duran for the right pieces would be the right decision.
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The ever-changing landscape of baseball is basically requiring teams to have flexible, multi-positional players. His value in being defensively solid at basically 7 positions probably outweighs most of his limitations offensively. Paying a player like this $5-6M a year is not a luxury, but a boon. Lumping the Twins with the Marlins and Athletics as the type of team discussing moving a player like this due to financial limitations is a travesty.
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Again, there is another piece to a trade like this everyone is ignoring: perception. You have a team the should have been in the playoffs last year, even basically every young player failing miserably (SWR being the exception). You go and trade any of the Lopez, Ober, Ryan, (and I am sure we will see coming articles about trading Lewis, Jeffers, Wallner, Miranda, and anybody else productive with a pulse) and the already tenuous relationship with the fanbase takes another nosedive. Not a great look when your new broadcast deal requires fans to actually want to watch the team to make an y money. Sure, all these guys can be moved. Just ask the White Sox.
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No reason to do this in any capacity except for a complete rebuild which the Twins do not need. The vitriol following this move would be insane.
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Unfortunately I have a feeling we are going to see a run of articles on players the Twins "should" sign, even though EVERYONE knows there is zero chance these players will be signed due to financial constraints... If the Twins re-sign Santana on a 1y/$5-6m deal, that will probably constitute the bulk of offseason spending this winter.
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Potential payroll flexibility is only a small part of the excitement over new ownership. The stubbornness and inflexibility of ownership has been one of the larger issues over the last few decades. Change is part of that excitement. What will the new owners do differently in hopes to win a championship and provide a positive experience for fans? Some changes seem like low hanging fruit (better marketing, better in-person experience), but others will take time. Approaches to the FO and on-field product, team infrastructure, scouting, analytics all could see changes. Good or bad, change is almost always painful.
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Macro - Change is a comin. New ownership will probably want their guys in key positions. St. Peter, Falvey down to Rocco are all currently in a state of limbo. Good or bad, it is the way of things. New owners may be "bad", but they will be different. Remains to be seen how that effects the organization. Micro - Any discussion of spending $$ this offseason effectively comes to a halt. No large contracts, no long contracts. Also, no major changes either. Until a purchase becomes public (meaning it is close), the team is currently in a holding pattern. My POV: There is zero chance the Twins will be moved. Between existing contracts, Pohlad legacy, and alternate city options, this is not going to happen. I personally would love to see a Cuban-type jump in, but the baseball old-boys network would never approve a sale to this type of owner.
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Why the Twins Might Need to Trade Carlos Correa
Twins GFP replied to Cody Christie's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
Not taking it personally 👍 As you said, it came as a surprise. The Tigers were an anomaly. Got extremely hot at the right time and carried it into the playoffs. If the Twins traded Correa specifically, or started moving their core, it could get ugly -
Why the Twins Might Need to Trade Carlos Correa
Twins GFP replied to Cody Christie's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
Correa is more than just the player on the field, more than just the clubhouse leader, he represents the Twins efforts to win. Fan Perception. We talk a lot about the Twins tanking to some degree by lowering payroll and not re-investing in salary of the team. But as long as there is the core of Correa, Buxton, Lewis, Lopez, and Ryan, there is the belief this team can be competitive. If the Twins move Correa, they might as well trade everyone. They would set this franchise back 3-5 years and lose whatever fan goodwill is left. Correa demanding a trade might change that narrative a bit, but I can't see that happening in the near future. -
Twins' Biggest Roster Needs for 2025
Twins GFP replied to Matthew Lenz's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
Call me cautious, but I would be totally fine with another year of Santana at $5m. I am not 100% sold that Miranda is "fixed" and Santana provides indirect insurance for another Lewis injury at 3B. Many comments about Martin, Lee, Kiersey, Julien, et. al getting long leashes and defined roles. A reminder that they did not perform very well when given the opportunity last season. Expecting them to serviceable next year could be setting this team up for another major failure. Lewis, Correa, and Buxton each playing 135 games would go a long way towards covering up other offense problems this team has. -
I asked this elsewhere, and I will ask it again here: As a group, where do the Twins catchers rank amongst teams in the major categories? I would bet they are top 10 compared to other teams in most of the big stats. Doesn't seem like a great reason to break up a pairing that seems to work well within the system and has been healthy (not easy at this position).
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This is a salary dump trade done by a team looking to rebuild. It would be very sad to see the Twins do this. With all this talk of how "unwieldly" the Twins catching situation is, I think the balance has been decent, with production and health. Does anyone know where the Twins (as a group) rank regarding overall catching stats by team? I would think they were top ten in the major categories. Doesn't sound like a great reason to break them up yet...
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This and the Joe Pohlad interview saying they weren't going to sign any big names. I am kind of surprised these were not on this list considering the huge impact they had in multiple ways for the team.
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What are the Twins’ Toughest Arbitration Decisions?
Twins GFP replied to Cody Christie's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
The discussion here is really about replacement value: If player X is non-tendered, would you be able to replace his value for less money. Guys like Kiriloff are cheap, have had some MLB success, and still in the "prove it" mode. Duran will most assuredly outplay his contract, even if he isn't "elite". Same can be said for Topa. Remember we are talking about 1-year contracts here. Castro will be a very interesting case. He has probably earned the $6m contract for next year, but with the Twins penny-pinching, it is hard to say what they will do. If Castro is non-tendered, or signed and traded for prospects, methinks it would be an ominous sign for the coming season.- 56 replies
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Rebuilding is nonsense. They have 3-4 solid to very solid SP, quality+ starters at arguably 5-6 of the field positions, depth at the end off the BP. What more of a core do you need to build from? Though I have zero expectation this will happen, this team needs to find a way to add at 2B, OF, and another SP this offseason. The younger guys (Festa, Lee, Martin, Matthews) showed this year they are not yet ready to carry the load, they need to be backups so they can be put in better positions to succeed.
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