Tyler Duffey Got Screwed Out Of A "W" Last Night

It happens where if a relief pitcher faces only one batter he does not get the win, even if the final lead change happens when he's on the clock.

It may not be right, but it happens.

Didn’t Duffey get a Win in a similar matter a few weeks ago?

Second time Duffey came in and did his job without getting the win.

Didn't Trevor May get one out (on 1 pitch) last week and get the win? It was pretty much the same scenario.

Do we care about wins now?

Dufffey may have gotten a win in a similar situation, but recently there was a discussion about who was awarded the win for the Twins' win against the Yankees at Target Field. That win was awarded to Thorpe and Duffey also was a candidate for the W.

That game was a little different because the starter did not go 5 and treated differently in the rule book. It is similar because Duffey was the pitcher of record when the Twins took the lead. He came in and put out the fire at a critical moment in the game. Thorpe was awarded the win though Duffey in that game had a much better WPA.

Duffey also does not get credit for a hold for either game though he left with the Twins leading and the lead was never relinquished. He was effective and did his job both times. If your effective and leave with the lead you deserve the win.

Dyson at one point in time pitched in Texas. Texas scorekeeper was making the decisions??? IDK but it just happens that way

Not that this matters, but I just looked it up on Google, and official scorekeepers make 150 dollars per game? I kinda figured MLB would do them a little better than that?

This brings up a question: has a pitcher ever got a Win without throwing a pitch? Same situation as Duffey, but before the first pitch, he picks off a runner. The rulebook would seem to say that's a win.

Not that this matters, but I just looked it up on Google, and official scorekeepers make 150 dollars per game? I kinda figured MLB would do them a little better than that?

I mean, $50 an hour for a relatively unskilled job is a pretty good side gig.

Not that this matters, but I just looked it up on Google, and official scorekeepers make 150 dollars per game? I kinda figured MLB would do them a little better than that?

$150 for at most 5 hours work. Do you make $30 per hour?

This brings up a question: has a pitcher ever got a Win without throwing a pitch? Same situation as Duffey, but before the first pitch, he picks off a runner. The rulebook would seem to say that's a win.

This isn’t the only time and I’m not sure if it is even most recent.

Alan Embree picked a guy off without throwing a pitch and got the win. It was one of his last appearances before retiring.

https://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/COL/COL200907070.shtml

Stan Williams pulled off a win without throwing a pitch for the Twins. It was in April of 1970 or 71.

Before he threw a pitch he picked the runner off of 2nd in a tied game in the top of the ninth. Twins scored in the 9th to win.

This brings up a question: has a pitcher ever got a Win without throwing a pitch? Same situation as Duffey, but before the first pitch, he picks off a runner. The rulebook would seem to say that's a win.

Hell, a pitcher could “pitch” a perfect game without throwing a pitch!

I mean, $50 an hour for a relatively unskilled job is a pretty good side gig.

Actually, the job requires skill and loads of baseball-watching experience.

I agree that Duffey has been scrod out of a win. That said, relief pitcher wins are among the most unimportant stats in the game.

I don't want to argue, but I don't ever recall a situation like this and I've been following baseball since the early '60s. Can you supply any examples?

Um, no, I won't dig through box scores to find examples.

However:

1) We have had this conversation on this website before, but on the opposite side, with me arguing someone else should have received the win and everyone else here saying "so what"

2) Consider the possibility that others were paying more attention

This is something I first noticed in the 70s and have been thinking about it a long time.

Pitchers who pitch 1/3 or 2/3 of an inning can get shafted. It happens.

It sometimes happens when the scorer takes a nap for an inning or so, so when s/he comes to, the pitcher remembered gets the W. It happens.

Actually, the job requires skill and loads of baseball-watching experience.

The keyword in post was "relatively" unskilled.

As in relative to other jobs that pay $50 an hour.

I can't imagine that MLB teams have any shortage of well qualified people who would love to earn that much in a side job that involves watching baseball for money.