howieramone1406390264 Verified Member Posted November 23, 2013 Posted November 23, 2013 I would see if King Theo would take Berrios and Thorpe for Starlin Castro. It looks like they are moving their ETA to 2016 and a salary dump may be attractive.
twinscowboysbulls Verified Member Posted November 23, 2013 Posted November 23, 2013 I'm guessing that would be a no-go from Detroit, but i'd do it in a heartbeat.
Bark's Lounge Verified Member Posted November 23, 2013 Posted November 23, 2013 Angels probably should have adhered to your trenchant analysis. They've come away with David Freese instead. Trenchant is way to kind, but I thought Bourjos had more value than that. Bourjos and Grichuk to the Cards for Freese and Salas... WTF? But what the hell do I know?
Kwak Verified Member Posted November 24, 2013 Posted November 24, 2013 Could we convince the Cardinals to take Plouffe for some useful starting pitching?
Parise11 Verified Member Posted November 24, 2013 Posted November 24, 2013 I'm guessing that would be a no-go from Detroit, but i'd do it in a heartbeat.Tigers are said to be shopping A-Jax. Can't imagine we would have to add too much. A-Jax had a down year (mostly due to injury) and Perkins is one of the final pieces for them and is on a sweetheart deal.
Bark's Lounge Verified Member Posted November 24, 2013 Posted November 24, 2013 In a Glen Perkins to the Detroit Tigers trade I would request Porcello and Rondon. If they scoff at that, I walk away from the table. If I am trading an All-Star to a division rival, it is necessary to get absolute full value and it doesn't matter to me if he is a relief pitcher. Take it or leave it.
kab21 Verified Member Posted November 24, 2013 Posted November 24, 2013 I like the Perkins for Webster deal. Or Henry Owens. I also like matt Barnes quite a bit 9as a 2nd piece). The whole point of trading Perkins should be to bring in someone that is under contract longer than Perkins. Jackson and Porcello are FA's in 2 years.
twinscowboysbulls Verified Member Posted November 24, 2013 Posted November 24, 2013 The Blue Jays are putting together a package for the power-righty from the Cubs. What could we offer in a deal to get him outside our top 3? I'd propose something like this as a starting place. Hicks, Rosario, May, Gibson, Vargas, Hudson Boyd for Samardzija and Castro.
kab21 Verified Member Posted November 24, 2013 Posted November 24, 2013 Quantity doesn't trump quality.
twinscowboysbulls Verified Member Posted November 24, 2013 Posted November 24, 2013 Quantity doesn't trump quality. Touche.
Guest USAFChief Guests Posted November 25, 2013 Posted November 25, 2013 Quantity doesn't trump quality.What if we add Duensing?
stringer bell Verified Member Posted November 25, 2013 Posted November 25, 2013 What if we add Duensing?You beat me to it, Chief! Failing to include Duensing to the Cubs, how about Duensing to the Reds for Hanigan?
Winston Smith Verified Member Posted November 25, 2013 Posted November 25, 2013 Trade all the guys we have that aren't very good, and we have plenty of those, for a bunch of guys that are good! Should be easy enough!
mavman102 Provisional Member Posted November 25, 2013 Posted November 25, 2013 Arizona gets: Glen PerkinsMinnesota gets: LHP Tyler Skaggs
Linus Verified Member Posted November 26, 2013 Posted November 26, 2013 I would showcase Willingham, Doumit (yes, start him at catcher), Correia and Burton. As soon as any of them heat up, trade them for max value. In any event, all need to be gone by next trade deadline (would not trade Willingham this winter however). I would also pray that Plouffe runs into a few cookies and deal him for the best pitching prospect we can get. I don't think he will ever be consistent as a hitter and he has no position (he's equally bad no matter where you put him) - get rid of him as soon as you can get something for him.
JP3700 Provisional Member Posted November 26, 2013 Posted November 26, 2013 The A's are the team I would be talking to. They're in win now mode. Unfortunately for them, they don't have much in their farm system and can't afford to spend big on free agents. They do have a surplus in several areas that match up with the Twins. Their team is very balanced, but their needs include the back of their bullpen, a veteran starter and a RH bat in the outfield. We have some good arms in the bullpen and Aaron Hicks would be attractive as the heir apparent to Coco Crisp. He could also serve as their RH bat in the outfield and as a defensive replacement in 2014. I'd be inquiring about Brett Anderson. He's the type of high upside guy they should be looking for. He's only 26 (younger than Kyle Gibson) and has front of the rotation stuff. He just can't ever seem to stay healthy. They have Parker, Gray, Griffin, Straily and Milone so they could afford to move him and save $8M to spend elsewhere. He also has a $12M option in 2015, so the Twins would get two years of control. The A's also have three catchers, two of them being LH batters. John Jaso is a monster against RH pitching, but he may no longer be able to catch. He suffered a concussion midway through the season last year and never came back. So, I'd have to be assured that he's healthy. He has two years of team control left and his bat is good enough to be a part time DH and backup 1B. The key is if he can catch 50 games or so. He and Pinto could form a nice platoon. I'd also ask about Alberto Callaspo. He's going to be a $5M backup on the A's and they just signed Nick Punto. He's a good defensive 3B and is blocked by Josh Donaldson. I'd see if I could get him for cheap to be an upgrade over Plouffe until Sano is ready and perhaps move him again mid-season for some returned value. Plouffe could then serve his more suited role of LH masher.
Hosken Bombo Disco Community Moderator Posted November 26, 2013 Posted November 26, 2013 I would also pray that Plouffe runs into a few cookies and deal him for the best pitching prospect we can get. I don't think he will ever be consistent as a hitter and he has no position (he's equally bad no matter where you put him) - get rid of him as soon as you can get something for him. Gosh I hope so. Too bad the secret's out he can't field worth a… It's definitely possible he could get on a streak and at that point get anything you can get for him.
Thrylos Old-Timey Member Posted November 27, 2013 Posted November 27, 2013 Word is that the Mets are shopping Daniel Murphy to move Chris Young to his natural second base position. They need 2 OFs this off-season. Murphy is a LHB who started his career as a 3B but has been a super-utility guy playing all IF positions other than SS and LF. He will be in his second arbitration this season and is looking for about $4M or so. 108 OPS+ last season. I am thinking the Twins send Willingham and a position player prospect (other than the top 10) to the Mets for Murphy. He can platoon with Plouffe at 3B and play LF occasionally. Willingham's bat will be fine at Citi Field.
Riverbrian Old-Timey Member Posted November 27, 2013 Posted November 27, 2013 Word is that the Mets are shopping Daniel Murphy to move Chris Young to his natural second base position. They need 2 OFs this off-season. Murphy is a LHB who started his career as a 3B but has been a super-utility guy playing all IF positions other than SS and LF. He will be in his second arbitration this season and is looking for about $4M or so. 108 OPS+ last season. I am thinking the Twins send Willingham and a position player prospect (other than the top 10) to the Mets for Murphy. He can platoon with Plouffe at 3B and play LF occasionally. Willingham's bat will be fine at Citi Field. How Bout Doumit instead? Many may disagree with me. But... The Twins need Hammers Potential power. He is the only experienced potential 30 homer guy. It's a Contract year for him. He could rebound and a rebound from him would help and if he rebounds and it doesn't help. The Twins could benefit from the increased trade value.
johnnydakota Verified Member Posted November 27, 2013 Posted November 27, 2013 How Bout Doumit instead? Many may disagree with me. But... The Twins need Hammers Potential power. He is the only experienced potential 30 homer guy. It's a Contract year for him. He could rebound and a rebound from him would help and if he rebounds and it doesn't help. The Twins could benefit from the increased trade value. Agreeing, Unless we are going to sign 2 front of the rotation pitchers and some power, we will need a bounce back year from Ham,and a couple break out years from the Kids,Just to get to .500
kab21 Verified Member Posted November 27, 2013 Posted November 27, 2013 Word is that the Mets are shopping Daniel Murphy to move Chris Young to his natural second base position. They need 2 OFs this off-season. Murphy is a LHB who started his career as a 3B but has been a super-utility guy playing all IF positions other than SS and LF. He will be in his second arbitration this season and is looking for about $4M or so. 108 OPS+ last season. I am thinking the Twins send Willingham and a position player prospect (other than the top 10) to the Mets for Murphy. He can platoon with Plouffe at 3B and play LF occasionally. Willingham's bat will be fine at Citi Field. First - edit that to Eric YoungSecond - Eric Young is not a capable starter at any position regardless of what the rumor says. I have no problem with Daniel Murphy but this move doesn't make much sense for the Twins (unless you just want to dump Willy and include a prospect to do it). Murphy's only real value is if he is playing 2B or 3B and the Twins already have Dozier/rosario at 2B with Sano coming up midseason (hopefully) at 3B.
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