VIKES @ STEELERS in Ireland 9/28/25

[Mike Sixel]

Just now, Parfigliano said:

Reichert from 67 to tie?

If they can, you know, pass block and pass....

[Aggies7]

Just a killer taking that grounding penalty 

[Mike Sixel]

Just now, Aggies7 said:

Just a killer taking that grounding penalty 

At least there is no QB controversy.....

[Aggies7]

Absolutely bungled by wentz

[TheLeviathan]

For ****'s sake get the play in.

[Parfigliano]

O line big big problem

[Aggies7]

Just now, Mike Sixel said:

At least there is no QB controversy.....

Yeah, we don’t have a good one 😂

[Aggies7]

Given a million chances and couldn’t cross mid field. Seen enough of wentz 

[TheLeviathan]

This is why we don't have conversations bout JJ not starting when he's healthy.

This season is about developing him, not thinking Carson Wentz is another miracle.

[Aggies7]

Absolute masterclass in bungling that last drive 

[Aggies7]

Just now, TheLeviathan said:

This is why we don't have conversations bout JJ not starting when he's healthy.

This season is about developing him, not thinking Carson Wentz is another miracle.

Still, would not want to see the young guy behind this line with the schedule coming up.

[TheLeviathan]

Just now, Aggies7 said:

Absolute masterclass in bungling that last drive 

Agreed with you before, it'd almost have been better for him to just take the freaking sack than ground it.  

They had a chance and bungled it totally.

[TheLeviathan]

Just now, Aggies7 said:

Still, would not want to see the young guy behind this line with the schedule coming up.

Agreed, but KOC needs to scheme around that then.  You can quick hit people to death if you're willing to.

[Aggies7]

Just now, TheLeviathan said:

Agreed with you before, it'd almost have been better for him to just take the freaking sack than ground it.  

They had a chance and bungled it totally.

And to top off the delay of game penalty too

[nicksaviking]

1 minute ago, TheLeviathan said:

This is why we don't have conversations bout JJ not starting when he's healthy.

This season is about developing him, not thinking Carson Wentz is another miracle.

Right, Wentz could be better than McCarthy, but it doesn't matter. Have to keep trying the young guy, and if he doesn't show what we need to see, you try again in the draft in the next couple years.

[Mike Sixel]

Just now, Aggies7 said:

Still, would not want to see the young guy behind this line with the schedule coming up.

Definitely a concern. But you have to play him..

[nicksaviking]

1 minute ago, Aggies7 said:

Still, would not want to see the young guy behind this line with the schedule coming up.

The Eagles will be dancing on his tattered corpse.

[Parfigliano]

Pittsburgh sure tried to let Vikes tie or win it.  

[TheLeviathan]

Here's a bold call....but I think this game was truly lost on that third quarter drive that started at the 10, drove down and was moving the ball, then did two cutesy ass plays on the Steelers 40 before a tipped interception.

That drive is the one that tipped the game.  All they had to do was keep using Mason and the quick throws and instead we try a bunch of screens with a line already struggling to protect.

[Aggies7]

Biggest takeaway from this game is at least Mike tomlin isn’t our coach. He still coaches like it’s 25 years ago 

[Parfigliano]

1 minute ago, TheLeviathan said:

Agreed, but KOC needs to scheme around that then.  You can quick hit people to death if you're willing to.

With this O line Wentz or JJMc  Vikes have to quick hit every pass.

[TheLeviathan]

Just now, Parfigliano said:

With this O line Wentz or JJMc  Vikes have to quick hit every pass.

I would hope KOC could watch the first drive and see that it works.  JJ had 4 catches and like 50 yards and never once was his QB holding the ball too long.

This can be done.

[Mike Sixel]

2 minutes ago, TheLeviathan said:

Here's a bold call....but I think this game was truly lost on that third quarter drive that started at the 10, drove down and was moving the ball, then did two cutesy ass plays on the Steelers 40 before a tipped interception.

That drive is the one that tipped the game.  All they had to do was keep using Mason and the quick throws and instead we try a bunch of screens with a line already struggling to protect.

This is the part KOC needs to work on. He needs to change his ways until they have an OL and experienced QB. 

[Parfigliano]

Maybe Rocco can win his last ever TC game to ease the pain

[Aggies7]

Just now, Parfigliano said:

Maybe Rocco can win his last ever TC game to ease the pain

Wishful thinking on your part 

[nicksaviking]

1 hour ago, TheLeviathan said:

I would hope KOC could watch the first drive and see that it works.  JJ had 4 catches and like 50 yards and never once was his QB holding the ball too long.

This can be done.

Also the last TD drive in the 4th quarter. That late game drive was most encouraging to me since it wasn't scripted all week in practice. Compare that to the chaos that occurred in the final drive when they were forced to push it deep and to the sidelines. I think they can make the quick read passes work.

The biggest obstacle is that this kind of play style lends itself to lots of screen passes, something this franchise has not been able to do since KOC took over. I really don't think the pulling lineman know who to block, they just stand around often facing the wrong direction.

[TheLeviathan]

13 minutes ago, nicksaviking said:

Also the last TD drive in the 4th quarter. That late game drive was most encouraging to me since it wasn't scripted all week in practice. Compare that to the chaos that occurred in the final drive when they were forced to push it deep and to the sidelines. I think they can make the quick read passes work.

The biggest obstacle is that this kind of play style lends itself to lots of screen passes, something this franchise has not been able to do since KOC took over. I really don't think the pulling lineman know who to block, they just stand around often facing the wrong direction.

Will Fries getting flagged for being down field too soon and then, on replay, watching him mosey around doing jack squat was depressingly hilarious.

[gunnarthor]

Hi all. Missed the game chat, sorry. I had a few thoughts.

1) KOC is a really good coach. This team was not in the game yet somehow the team stayed in the game, got the ball back and probably should have stolen a win. That's really incredible. This team doesn't quit. Whatever this coaching staff has done has really worked. The players think they can win, even down late. Amazing culture they've created. Honestly, Zimmer Vikings would have been destroyed. 

2) KOC still is struggling on play-calling. I love his offense and, when the o-line is blocking, it can be devasting. But he still gets too cute and takes too long to adjust to challenges from the defense. He needs to get better. Still, love him as a coach. Really think he'll win a super bowl for us.

3) Seen enough of Wentz. McCarthy is the starter when he's healthy. 

[Mike Sixel]

27 minutes ago, gunnarthor said:

Hi all. Missed the game chat, sorry. I had a few thoughts.

1) KOC is a really good coach. This team was not in the game yet somehow the team stayed in the game, got the ball back and probably should have stolen a win. That's really incredible. This team doesn't quit. Whatever this coaching staff has done has really worked. The players think they can win, even down late. Amazing culture they've created. Honestly, Zimmer Vikings would have been destroyed. 

2) KOC still is struggling on play-calling. I love his offense and, when the o-line is blocking, it can be devasting. But he still gets too cute and takes too long to adjust to challenges from the defense. He needs to get better. Still, love him as a coach. Really think he'll win a super bowl for us.

3) Seen enough of Wentz. McCarthy is the starter when he's healthy. 

agreed on all 3. Other than the SB....no idea, and a lot of luck is needed. 

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