Fired coaches thread

[Parfigliano]

3 hours ago, TheLeviathan said:

I was thinking about this after nick's link about Tennessee:

Has there ever been a year where more of the league's dumbest franchises have all been dumbing their way through the hiring process?  

Chicago, Jets, Raiders, Dallas, Titans, Jags.....these are some of the NFL's consistently stupidest teams.  And they are stupiding extra hard this year.

NYJ actually have competition for most dysfunctional franchise.  Usually they are the run away winners on that subject.

[nicksaviking]

Well, I'm sure the Cowboy fans are is smiling tonight knowing Jerry just punched their ticket to a championship.

 

[Danchat]

8 hours ago, TheLeviathan said:

Chicago, Jets, Raiders, Dallas, Titans, Jags.....these are some of the NFL's consistently stupidest teams.  And they are stupiding extra hard this year.

At least the Jags finally made the right move and canned Baalke... just shoulda done that before the HC interviews, not during the final round. And in the midst of begging Coen to take your job. Heh.

8 hours ago, nicksaviking said:

Also, I wonder if Slowik will find his way over to Detroit. 

Tampa Bay is the place to be, their previous two OCs have gotten HC jobs. Baker Mayfield is suddenly OC gold! But yeah, Detroit would be pretty great too. 

[gunnarthor]

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/43511119/nfl-dallas-cowboys-brian-schottenheimer-jerry-jones-mike-mccarthy

I don't actually hate this hire as much as I thought I would, which, I suppose, is a bummer. Hiring Schottenheimer, if your highest paid QB wants him, makes sense. And, while McCarthy took play calling duties, Schottenheimer was the play caller on some teams that did better than they should have, so he's not an idiot. He also has been under a bunch of good coaches so probably knows how to build a staff - he's already rumored to bring in Eberfus as his DC.

Dallas' biggest problem is the owner and he won't be able to do anything about that. But it looks like he has the buy-in of his most important player and is smart enough to bring in someone like Eberfus to replace Zimmer. That's not a bad starting spot.

Still, nepo-hire.

[nicksaviking]

47 minutes ago, Danchat said:

At least the Jags finally made the right move and canned Baalke... just shoulda done that before the HC interviews, not during the final round. And in the midst of begging Coen to take your job. Heh.

Tampa Bay is the place to be, their previous two OCs have gotten HC jobs. Baker Mayfield is suddenly OC gold! But yeah, Detroit would be pretty great too. 

Coming from Shanahan's system, I'm guessing Slowik is the type of coach who wants to feature the run game and requires the QB to fun his scheme exactly as he draws up. Maybe I'm wrong about that, but if I'm not, that sounds more like Goff than Mayfield who's way more of an off-script gunslinger.

[Parfigliano]

1 hour ago, gunnarthor said:

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/43511119/nfl-dallas-cowboys-brian-schottenheimer-jerry-jones-mike-mccarthy

I don't actually hate this hire as much as I thought I would, which, I suppose, is a bummer. Hiring Schottenheimer, if your highest paid QB wants him, makes sense. And, while McCarthy took play calling duties, Schottenheimer was the play caller on some teams that did better than they should have, so he's not an idiot. He also has been under a bunch of good coaches so probably knows how to build a staff - he's already rumored to bring in Eberfus as his DC.

Dallas' biggest problem is the owner and he won't be able to do anything about that. But it looks like he has the buy-in of his most important player and is smart enough to bring in someone like Eberfus to replace Zimmer. That's not a bad starting spot.

Still, nepo-hire.

I don't want to live in a world where the Cowboys possibly made a decent hire.  6-7 more and the might be able to negate Jerry's idiocy.

[TheLeviathan]

From Sando at The Athletic:

Jaguars: See if this sounds like a precursor for long-term stability.

Owner Shad Khan, who entered the 2024 season by declaring his roster the best in franchise history, pursued Liam Coen, a one-year NFL coordinator, as if Coen were Vince Lombardi incarnate. Khan initially retained Baalke, then fired the GM to help land Coen. According to Albert Breer, the Jaguars then kept secret Coen's second visit to the team so they could trick Raiders defensive coordinator Patrick Graham into satisfying the Rooney Rule for them. They did all this to land a coach with one season of coordinating experience and question marks on his resume.

Coen left the NFL to become Kentucky's offensive coordinator in 2021. He returned to the NFL in 2022, then rejoined Kentucky as offensive coordinator in 2023, then returned to the NFL in 2024. This past week, Coen interviewed with the Jaguars, withdrew from consideration, accepted (but did not sign) an offer from Tampa Bay contingent upon not re-engaging with Jacksonville, then met with the Jaguars secretly and accepted their offer without keeping the Buccaneers apprised.

[gunnarthor]

1 hour ago, TheLeviathan said:

From Sando at The Athletic:

Jaguars: See if this sounds like a precursor for long-term stability.

Owner Shad Khan, who entered the 2024 season by declaring his roster the best in franchise history, pursued Liam Coen, a one-year NFL coordinator, as if Coen were Vince Lombardi incarnate. Khan initially retained Baalke, then fired the GM to help land Coen. According to Albert Breer, the Jaguars then kept secret Coen's second visit to the team so they could trick Raiders defensive coordinator Patrick Graham into satisfying the Rooney Rule for them. They did all this to land a coach with one season of coordinating experience and question marks on his resume.

Coen left the NFL to become Kentucky's offensive coordinator in 2021. He returned to the NFL in 2022, then rejoined Kentucky as offensive coordinator in 2023, then returned to the NFL in 2024. This past week, Coen interviewed with the Jaguars, withdrew from consideration, accepted (but did not sign) an offer from Tampa Bay contingent upon not re-engaging with Jacksonville, then met with the Jaguars secretly and accepted their offer without keeping the Buccaneers apprised.

I suspect the Jags will have a new coach in three years and won't have won 11 games in that span.

I really hope the league penalizes them for violating the Rooney Rule.

[TheLeviathan]

1 hour ago, gunnarthor said:

I suspect the Jags will have a new coach in three years and won't have won 11 games in that span.

I really hope the league penalizes them for violating the Rooney Rule.

Agreed.  Graham should be suing too.

Circles back to our black coaches conversation.  The next time a black coach with such a sparse track record as Coen gets this much love/money will be the first time.  

[sampleSizeOfOne]

On 1/8/2025 at 5:16 PM, Aggies7 said:

There apparently have been 34 one and dones in NFL history.

https://www.profootballnetwork.com/list-of-first-year-nfl-coaches-fired/#:~:text=HomeEvergreen-,One and Done NFL Head Coaches%3A Antonio Piece%2C Jerod Mayo,NFL Coaches Fired Throughout History&text=Although not common%2C there have,of coaching throughout league history.
 

Had absolutely no idea that Lou Holtz coached the jets in 1976 😂 apparently he resigned and wasn’t fired. But his quote was gold “god did not put Lou Holtz on this earth to coach the pros” 😂😂😂There are some real bums on that list. 

Lou Holtz won the little brown jug, didn't he? With Rickey Foggie and Darryl Thompson? (and is he still the only one to have a 200 yard rushing game against them?)

[nicksaviking]

Kliff Kingsbury is declining the Saints offer to interview for the HC job. So did Joe Brady, and Aaron Glenn declined to take the !Jets! job.

Most probably wouldn't have pegged the Saints as the most un-wanted job, but I dig it. Screw the Saints. 

[Vanimal46]

24 minutes ago, nicksaviking said:

Kliff Kingsbury is declining the Saints offer to interview for the HC job. So did Joe Brady, and Aaron Glenn declined to take the !Jets! job.

Most probably wouldn't have pegged the Saints as the most un-wanted job, but I dig it. Screw the Saints. 

No young coordinator is going to touch that job. That’s a 2 year minimum sentence in cap hell. Expensive, average at best QB and a core of players in their 30s. By the time that team is ready to compete the coach will be fired and go back to a coordinator job for 2+ years. 

[Danchat]

28 minutes ago, Vanimal46 said:

No young coordinator is going to touch that job. That’s a 2 year minimum sentence in cap hell. Expensive, average at best QB and a core of players in their 30s. By the time that team is ready to compete the coach will be fired and go back to a coordinator job for 2+ years. 

Looks like Kellen Moore is gonna be the hire. Feels like a post-hype candidate after his stock was high a couple years ago. He might not ever get another HC offer again so he might as well take it.

[nicksaviking]

30 minutes ago, Danchat said:

Looks like Kellen Moore is gonna be the hire. Feels like a post-hype candidate after his stock was high a couple years ago. He might not ever get another HC offer again so he might as well take it.

Moore has really spun some magic this year though. Saquon Barkley was a bum before he got to Philly, and Moore invented the tush push I believe. And all behind that god awful offensive line too. Jalen Hurts also very nearly threw for 3000 yards, which my 1958 Sports Almanac indicates would have been a record!

[nicksaviking]

Ken Dorsey was fired by the Bills last year and the Browns this year. The Cowboys are interviewing him for 2025 though. LOL.

[nicksaviking]

Wow, the Lions are losing coach after coach after coach. 

They still have a ton of player talent, but talented players don't always lead to an equitable record if your missing the proper leadership. I'm predicting that next year the Lions are going to be the Bengals. Super stars putting up awesome numbers everywhere but too aimless to do make it amount to anything.

[Vanimal46]

Chip Kelly is now making $6 million a year? What a world we live in. 

[nicksaviking]

1 hour ago, Vanimal46 said:

Chip Kelly is now making $6 million a year? What a world we live in. 

Well, it was a nice run by the Chiefs. Pointless in arguing with the Raiders long history of impactful coaching decisions though.

[Mike Sixel]

It's certainly a choice.

[TheLeviathan]

21 hours ago, Vanimal46 said:

Chip Kelly is now making $6 million a year? What a world we live in. 

This is why I joked that Marty Schottenheimer has a chance....with a little necromancy.....at another coaching gig.  It ain't out of the question.

[gunnarthor]

Jags hire our assistant quarterback coach/assistant offensive coordinator, Grant Udinski, to be their offensive coordinator. Udinski is 29 years old. Liam Coen will still call the plays in Jacksonsville. 

https://www.dailynorseman.com/2025/2/6/24360070/jacksonville-jaguars-hire-grant-udinski-offensive-coordinator-minnesota-vikings

As someone in the comments section of this article noted, I was a bit surprised that Udinski is the only coach we've lost and that folks like Flores, McCardell, and McCown were not hired. I think the Jags/Coen want to say they are grabbing an up-and-coming offensive genius.