Article: Pitcher And Catchers Report On Day 2

[CharacterGroove]

Yep, getting a post presence was necessary this draft.

[Otto von Ballpark]

I know this is a worthless exercise -- the only thing worse than college stats might be college stats without context -- but I checked anyway, and very similar age-21 college seasons for these two:

 

Stuart Turner Baseball Statistics

 

Drew Butera Baseball Statistics (2003-2013)

 

Turner: .381/.452/.533 with 5 HR (.152 isolated power)

Butera: .325/.434/.481 with 5 HR (.156 isolated power)

 

Similar K/BB ratios too.

 

In Turner's defense, he posted similar stat lines in his age-19 and age-20 seasons, albeit at junior college, whereas Butera was more or less a zero power guy before his age-21 season:

 

2012 LSU Eunice stats

2011 LSU Eunice stats

[B Richard]

Are there any expected signability issues with either Gonsalves or Slegers?

[Monkeypaws]

Man, 4 pitchers and a catcher. BPA and need seem to be converging here.

[heatbeat]

Are there any expected signability issues with either Gonsalves or Slegers?

 

I don't think Slegers will be an issue considering he had a career healthy year, and he probably would want to cash in on that. Gonsalves doesn't sound like it will be an issue either.

[Otto von Ballpark]

Interestingly, the leading hitter on Turner's LSU Eunice teams was Dalton Herrington, who did not adapt well to NCAA baseball in 2013 at Louisiana-Monroe, in perhaps a less talented conference than Turner's too:

 

ULM - Season Statistics

 

Meanwhile, Turner basically replicated his junior college season at the NCAA level and was the leading hitter on his Mississippi team. Also, Butera was NOT the leading hitter on his college team, but there were a number of players drafted from it, suggesting good team/conference quality.

[nicksaviking]

Between Slegers and Meyer the Timberwolves are probably jealous.

[nicksaviking]

Another catcher?

 

Edit: Not complaining, just curious. Only catchers and pitchers thus far.

[DaveW]

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[TD=class: comments]6'02" 200lbs DOB: 12/29/94 | http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/components/events/draft/y2012/draftcaster/images/vid_icon.pngScouting videoIn a Draft class fairly deep in high school catching, it would be smart not to forget about this Florida prep standout. Big and strong, Navarreto has the chance to hit for both average and power, with bat speed and loft. He has a good plan at the plate and makes adjustments well. He has a strong arm that he's not afraid to show off from behind the plate and is fairly athletic. He's the kind of strong competitor teams like to see at the position as well, giving him the chance to maximize his solid all-around tools.There are other high school backstops who will go ahead of Navarreto, but he shouldn't have to wait too long to hear his name called.

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Class: HSHeight: 6'02" Weight: 200Bats: R Throws: RComments: In a Draft class fairly deep in high school catching, it would be smart not to forget about this Florida prep standout. Big and strong, Navarreto has the chance to hit for both average and power, with bat speed and loft. He has a good plan at the plate and makes adjustments well. He has a strong arm that he's not afraid to show off from behind the plate and is fairly athletic. He's the kind of strong competitor teams like to see at the position as well, giving him the chance to maximize his solid all-around tools.There are other high school backstops who will go ahead of Navarreto, but he shouldn't have to wait too long to hear his name called.

[DaveW]

Another catcher?

 

High upside.

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Haha, I actually called this one before the draft! 2/6. BA has him 185

[PseudoSABR]

Well it's a battery draft!

 

It's not a bad idea to pair catchers and pitchers to come into the minor leagues together, and maybe move up as well together. Got a HS and College catcher, and surely plenty of pitchers to come from each.

[B Richard]

I actually really like Navarreto's profile for a 6th rounder, but do we think we can sign him?

[DaveW]

I actually really like Navarreto's profile for a 6th rounder, but do we think we can sign him?

 

Only one way to find out!

[Otto von Ballpark]

Finally, a little more context: Turner's University of Mississippi program has turned out a number of notable MLB players over the years, while Butera is only Central Florida guy to get more than a cup of coffee.

[B Richard]

I'm really firing off questions here, but what's the penalty for going over the 5%? Is it something like hanging up the GM by his toes?

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I'm really firing off questions here, but what's the penalty for going over the 5%? Is it something like hanging up the GM by his toes?

 

Lose of next years 1st round pick. So yeah.

[Otto von Ballpark]

From a quick Google search for Brian Navaretto:

 

Bench-clearing brawl, racial slurs mar high school baseball game (Video) - USA TODAY High School Sports

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I actually really like Navarreto's profile for a 6th rounder, but do we think we can sign him?

 

Yeah, Navarreto is a great pick in the 6th round IMO. From my knowledge there shouldn't be any problem signing him.

[James]

I'm really firing off questions here, but what's the penalty for going over the 5%? Is it something like hanging up the GM by his toes?

Penalties for exceeding the Signing Bonus Pool are:

Excess of Pool Penalty - (Tax on Overage/Draft Picks)

* 0-5% - 75% tax on overage

* 5-10% - 75% tax on overage and loss of 1st round pick

* 10-15% - 100% tax on overage and loss of 1st and 2nd round picks

* 15%+ - 100% tax on overage and loss of 1st round picks in next two drafts

 

Source: Changes to the new CBA that affect the MLB Draft

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Tigers have gone 7-7 for pitchers. Most have been relief guys. Interesting.

[Seth Stohs]

Navarretto was one of Jeremy Nygaard's Personal Cheeseballs!

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Brian Gilbert 495 on BA's board. Callis said if he develops his slider could be a 7th/8th inning relief pitcher. 6'1 RHP

[gil4]

I'm really firing off questions here, but what's the penalty for going over the 5%? Is it something like hanging up the GM by his toes?

 

Different part of the anatomy.

 

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0%

None

Up to 5%

75% tax on overage

Up to 10%

75% tax on overage, loss of next season's 1st round pick

Up to 15%

100% tax on overage, loss of next season's 1st and 2nd round picks

> 15%

100% tax on overage, loss of 1st round pick next two seasons

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MLB 2012 Draft: What Are the Penalties for Exceeding Slot Budgets? - Twinkie Town

 

You only get the budget for the picks you actually sign. If you think a pick will sign for under slot and you use that excess elsewhere, you could be in trouble if the projected under slot guy changes his mind.

[John Bonnes]

Navarretto was one of Jeremy Nygaard's Personal Cheeseballs!

 

Here's his writeup:

 

Twins Daily - Draft Preview: "Personal Cheeseballs" (Hitters)

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From Nathan Rode:

 

#Twins pick Seton Hall RHP Brian Gilbert, 495 on #BA500. Plus FB, secondary needs tightening, but has improved.

[Reginald Maudling's Shin]

Are the Twins planning on signing all picks in the top 10 rounds? Usually that's been the case. I don't know if the new CBA affects that strategy at all.

[Siehbiscuit]

The pool of money only applies to the first 10 rounds, correct? If the "unsignable" guys are still available do the Twins (and others) start looking at them again to pay them what they want?

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The pool of money only applies to the first 10 rounds, correct? If the "unsignable" guys are still available do the Twins (and others) start looking at them again to pay them what they want?

 

After the tenth round you only get 100k per pick so guys who were unsignable before will be even more unsignable.