Seth Stohs Site Manager Posted June 7, 2013 Posted June 7, 2013 You can view the page at http://twinsdaily.com/content.php?r=1851-MLB-Draft-Day-2-Thread
cmb0252 Provisional Member Posted June 7, 2013 Posted June 7, 2013 BA's best available: Best Available After First Day Of MLB Draft - BaseballAmerica.com Christopher Crawford's best available:1. Serrano (unsignable)2. Denney3. Conner Jones (unsignable)4. Brentz5. Andrew Mitchell6. Garret Williams 7. Dustin Driver8. Myles Smith9. Will Crowe10. McPherson Keith Law's best available:1.Serrano2. Denney3. Conner Jones4. Andrew Mitchell5. Wil Crowe6. Boldt7. Bentz8. Williams9. Cord Sandberg10. Driver I predicted Andrew Mitchell at #78 before the draft and I'm sticking to it. While I prefer Denney/Boldt, Mitchell fits with what they Twins did last year.
rickyhawaii Provisional Member Posted June 7, 2013 Posted June 7, 2013 i would imagine some team will take Denney before the Twins ,but i'm hoping for him. Boldt would also be great.
howieramone1406390264 Verified Member Posted June 7, 2013 Posted June 7, 2013 Good info. I just looked up Mitchell. Looks like a good get.
AlwaysinModeration Verified Member Posted June 7, 2013 Posted June 7, 2013 Wasn't Denney considered as a possible top-15 pick?I know nothing about these players, but having Boldt and Denney in the board with only three teams picking ahead of them...I'm guessing at least one of them will be there for the Twins taking.
diehardtwinsfan Old-Timey Member Posted June 7, 2013 Posted June 7, 2013 I kind of hope they make a play for Serrano. I suppose if he's unsignable, that won't work. Their second round pick is a college guy, so I'm not sure what leverage he has. He may be Boras represnted, but that doesn't mean nearly as much as he's lacking the top tier talent that other Boras clients have. The Twins have about 700k that they can add to any pick. If they can get their first two to go a bit under slot, then they can still throw well over a million at him... That's my hope at least.
markos Provisional Member Posted June 7, 2013 Posted June 7, 2013 Their second round pick is a college guy, so I'm not sure what leverage he has. He may be Boras represnted, but that doesn't mean nearly as much as he's lacking the top tier talent that other Boras clients have. I think Eades is a junior, so he will have a little leverage with the fact that he can go back to college next year.
InfraRen Provisional Member Posted June 7, 2013 Posted June 7, 2013 Yeah I was looking at Mitchell last night too. Would be happy with him, Boldt or Denney.
InfraRen Provisional Member Posted June 7, 2013 Posted June 7, 2013 How about Chandler Eden? On BA's best available list: RHP HS Yuba City (Calif.) HS 68 IP, 119 K's, 1.83 ERA.
Mike Sixel Old-Timey Member Posted June 7, 2013 Posted June 7, 2013 I'd like some athletic middle infielders, and more pitching. I'd be shocked if a catcher does not come to the Twins in the next three picks. I don't see them taking tough signs here, as they will want more depth, not one or two more good guys. But that's just a guess based on 1 year of data with this new system, and 1 year is not a trend.
Seth Stohs Site Manager Posted June 7, 2013 Author Posted June 7, 2013 Baseball America had Ryan Eades ranked 38th in their final Top 50 Draft Prospects list yesterday before the draft. The Twins got him at 43. Do we really think Boras is going to given sort of break below slot?
DaveW Old-Timey Member Posted June 7, 2013 Posted June 7, 2013 Baseball America had Ryan Eades ranked 38th in their final Top 50 Draft Prospects list yesterday before the draft. The Twins got him at 43. Do we really think Boras is going to given sort of break below slot?No, he will sign for slot, which isn't a big deal anyways, its not like we will have to go over slot for Stewart anyways (in fact I think we can prob save a few bucks on him) Serrano and Boldt are going to cost too much anyways.
nicksaviking Community Moderator Posted June 7, 2013 Posted June 7, 2013 I'd like to see Bobby Wahl though he's another RHP. He has the stuff Ryan Eades does not. His K numbers dropped off this year but they were pretty strong in 2012 so the ability is probably there. I'd also be interested in Ryon Healy, 1B/3B out of OR. Sounds like a pretty solid defender at either corner infield spot and he can hit. His power is in question though one guy at baseball prospectus who is in love with him says the power is there. Sounds like a poor man's Colin Moran to me.
InfraRen Provisional Member Posted June 7, 2013 Posted June 7, 2013 Chat going on at BaseballProspectus right now: Baseball Prospectus | Events | Chat with Nick Faleris on the MLB Draft
InfraRen Provisional Member Posted June 7, 2013 Posted June 7, 2013 Chris Crawford @CrawfordChrisV24sGood morning. My process grades -- pass/fail style -- are up for you to enjoy. http://bit.ly/1bbxA96 #mlbdraft Minnesota Twins — Kohl Stewart was the best player on the board, and Ryan Eades has shown No. 2 stuff at times. Pretty easy pass.
CwK Provisional Member Posted June 7, 2013 Posted June 7, 2013 Chris Crawford @CrawfordChrisV24sGood morning. My process grades -- pass/fail style -- are up for you to enjoy. http://bit.ly/1bbxA96 #mlbdraft Minnesota Twins — Kohl Stewart was the best player on the board, and Ryan Eades has shown No. 2 stuff at times. Pretty easy pass. Wow great to hear!
InfraRen Provisional Member Posted June 7, 2013 Posted June 7, 2013 InfraRen (Minny): Are Ryan Boldt or Jon Denney signable at this point?Nick Faleris on the MLB Draft: I think both would need to be tabbed pretty early today to give teams enough base slot allotment to work with in order to reach the money likely needed to buy them out from Nebraska and Arkansas, respectively. Tough spot for teams with Boldt, since they are working almost exclusively off of reports from last year. Speaking for myself, I'd give either one first round money without too much concern, provided I had risk appropriately allocated otherwise with my other selections.
markos Provisional Member Posted June 7, 2013 Posted June 7, 2013 Does anyone know how much slot money the Twins have left, assuming both Stewart and Eades sign for slot? And how much can they go over before they hit the 5% limit?
DaveW Old-Timey Member Posted June 7, 2013 Posted June 7, 2013 Wow great to hear! #2 stuff? pfffffftttttt thats clown talent bro, anything besides a guy who throws 110 MPH with a killer change or a sure bet to hit 40 HR a year is a terrible pick IMO.
diehardtwinsfan Old-Timey Member Posted June 7, 2013 Posted June 7, 2013 Does anyone know how much slot money the Twins have left, assuming both Stewart and Eades sign for slot? And how much can they go over before they hit the 5% limit? The 5% is roughly 700k. Not sure what you mean on the first question... they have enough slot money left to sign everyone else at slot with an additional 700k to throw at someone. I for one would hope that their first two picks go under slot a bit so they could target a guy like Serrano, but from the sounds of it, he's going to play with his dad and come back in 3 years with a shot to be a top 5 guy...
DaveW Old-Timey Member Posted June 7, 2013 Posted June 7, 2013 Twins pick #78- Freddie Freeman, Ryan Garko, Ryan Theriot, Steve Busby.The 4 picks surround it on each side yielded: Chase Utley, Gicarlo Stanton, Marquis Grissom, Zack Cozart, John Olerud, Shaun Marcum, Curtis Granderson, Todd Hollandsworth. Next pick at #110- Players drafted 110: Ianetta, Jeff Bagwell, Within 2 picks: Brett Gardner, Dwight Evans, Chad Krueter, Nolasco, Scott Erickson, Paul Byrd,
Smcginnity Provisional Member Posted June 7, 2013 Posted June 7, 2013 Here's an impressive ranking by USA Today on Eades: MLB draft: Top 20 pitching prospects
cmb0252 Provisional Member Posted June 7, 2013 Posted June 7, 2013 Baseball America had Ryan Eades ranked 38th in their final Top 50 Draft Prospects list yesterday before the draft. The Twins got him at 43. Do we really think Boras is going to given sort of break below slot? Eades should be a slot signing. Never know with Boras though. If Eades has a long productive tourney he might pull a Gausman.
Vervehound Provisional Member Posted June 7, 2013 Posted June 7, 2013 I'd like to see Bobby Wahl though he's another RHP. He has the stuff Ryan Eades does not. His K numbers dropped off this year but they were pretty strong in 2012 so the ability is probably there. I'd also be interested in Ryon Healy, 1B/3B out of OR. Sounds like a pretty solid defender at either corner infield spot and he can hit. His power is in question though one guy at baseball prospectus who is in love with him says the power is there. Sounds like a poor man's Colin Moran to me. what "stuff" does wahl have that eades doesn't? he's another mid-rotation starter from the sec. good prospect but to differentiate between a couple of third-tier college starters is going to be scouts' work.
nicksaviking Community Moderator Posted June 7, 2013 Posted June 7, 2013 what "stuff" does wahl have that eades doesn't? he's another mid-rotation starter from the sec. good prospect but to differentiate between a couple of third-tier college starters is going to be scouts' work. I guess I just like starters with 96 MPH fastballs.
Vervehound Provisional Member Posted June 7, 2013 Posted June 7, 2013 The 5% is roughly 700k. Not sure what you mean on the first question... they have enough slot money left to sign everyone else at slot with an additional 700k to throw at someone. I for one would hope that their first two picks go under slot a bit so they could target a guy like Serrano, but from the sounds of it, he's going to play with his dad and come back in 3 years with a shot to be a top 5 guy... 5% of $14 million would be $700k. twins bonus pool is a bit over $8 mil.
Twins Twerp Provisional Member Posted June 7, 2013 Posted June 7, 2013 I've heard from my sources that Wahl is destined for late reliever, which in round 3 as a worst case scenerio, doesn't hurt my feelings. BTW my sources are random scouting reports and my almost null knowledge of scouting and baseball.
Vervehound Provisional Member Posted June 7, 2013 Posted June 7, 2013 I guess I just like starters with 96 MPH fastballs. that'd be his peak, then, which is the same for eades. wahl sits 90-94 and wasn't anything near that at the end of the year. he's harder to square up than eades, though, and throws a slider to eades' curve.
kab21 Verified Member Posted June 7, 2013 Posted June 7, 2013 The 5% is roughly 700k. Not sure what you mean on the first question... they have enough slot money left to sign everyone else at slot with an additional 700k to throw at someone. I for one would hope that their first two picks go under slot a bit so they could target a guy like Serrano, but from the sounds of it, he's going to play with his dad and come back in 3 years with a shot to be a top 5 guy... 5% of 8.2M is 410k. If the Twins are going to get one of the tough signs then I think they will need to punt their 4th and/or 5th rd picks to do it. I doubt Stewart signs for underslot and I wouldn't be surprised if he snagged a little of the extra 5%. You can make a solid argument that he needs to sign but there is an even better argument that the Twins need to sign him. I would be very surprised if the Twins took any tough to sign picks from here on out. I'm interested in which guy will be this year's Rosario, Walker, Goodrum or Morales though. At this point I don't even care what position they take. I will take anyone that has a shot at working out since 3rd+ rd picks are longshots.
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