Trade Rumor : What would it take to land Ohtani

[Game7-91]

This from LA Times, lending more intrigue to this year's deadline.

What would it take for Twins to competitively bid an Obtani trade?

https://www.latimes.com/sports/angels/story/2022-07-18/shohei-ohtani-future-with-the-angels

 

[RpR]

Gordon, Kirilloff, Miranda, Larnach and ... Jake Cave.

[Vanimal46]

Lol. Anyone they want in the organization. Including FO and owners. 

[ICTwin25]

34 minutes ago, RpR said:

Gordon, Kirilloff, Miranda, Larnach and ... Jake Cave.

Including Jake Cave actually made me lol, well done. Hate that dude, kudos

[Vanimal46]

In all seriousness, the Angels have one of the most unique expensive problems in MLB history. The worst case scenario for them and anyone in baseball is head to an arbitration hearing with Ohtani. He will qualify as a top hitter and top pitcher in baseball, and make $40+ million easily with the arbitration rules. 

[ICTwin25]

17 minutes ago, Vanimal46 said:

In all seriousness, the Angels have one of the most unique expensive problems in MLB history. The worst case scenario for them and anyone in baseball is head to an arbitration hearing with Ohtani. He will qualify as a top hitter and top pitcher in baseball, and make $40+ million easily with the arbitration rules. 

Yep, they bet big on Rendon and Syndergaard and both have failed miserably for them. Rendon hasnt ever hit 10 home runs for them...how crazy is that?

[KScott]

I was just thinking this exact question.

I did some playing around on baseball trade values. If LA wanted to get back to contention as fast as possible, they want major League ready talent, and it would have to be someone that would hurt to lose, and I don't think there is anyway the Twins don't lose Lewis in the trade, so he is included in all Trades.


Below are 4 groupings of players that the Twins currently have redundancy in and could loose one from each group and not miss too much (especially given that they would be getting Ohtani in return)

Group A ) Polanco, Arraez, Miranda
Group B ) Larnach, Kirilloff, Kepler
Group C ) Steer, Martin
Group D )  Ober, Winder, Paddack, SWR, Canterino


Both of these scenarios are for just Ohtani (107.6 trade value):

1) If you took the highest value of each group that would be: Larnach, Lewis, Ober, Polanco and Steer (122.7 Trade Value)

2) If I were the Angels the trade I would want from this would be: Arraez, Larnach, Lewis, Steer, Winder (Trade Value)

I do think the Twins could lose 2 from Groups B, C and D, without missing much. At the same time if the angels wanted another prospect not on the list I would not hesitate to make a 6 for 1 trade. 

What do you all think? Would that be too much to lose?
 

[Monkeypaws]

That would be the definition of going all in with your pants down: Correa, then Ohtani. Wouldn't that be fun? As I recall, the Twins were a finalist on him, no?

[umterp23]

Wouldn't come cheap, but would be okay with losing Arraez instead of Polanco.  Miranda wouldn't want to part with at all.  Would agree to Larnach, Lewis, Arraez, Winder, Ober and Sano.  would think the Angels would want 2 pitchers coming back, so threw Ober in