stringer bell Verified Member Posted October 3, 2021 Posted October 3, 2021 Most likely scenario is Yankees and Red Sox win today and clinch their spots. New York would then go to Fenway for the wild card game. I'd love to see a three-way or four-way playoff for the last spot or spots. Go Jays, Mariners, Nats and Rays.
Otto von Ballpark Old-Timey Member Posted October 3, 2021 Author Posted October 3, 2021 The Nationals may have the tallest order today. Not only do they have to beat Sale, the Nationals starting pitcher is making his MLB debut, with only 3 games at AA and 1 at AAA. He's not a top prospect either -- only 40 FV at Fangraphs, 22nd in the Nationals org (also 22nd at MLB.com).
Otto von Ballpark Old-Timey Member Posted October 3, 2021 Author Posted October 3, 2021 538 has game-level odds, which take into account the starting pitchers, home field, etc. I don't know how good they are, but here are the relevant games for today: TEAM CHANCE OF WINNING STARTING PITCHER TEAM RATING STARTING PITCHER ADJ. TRAVEL, REST & HOME FIELD ADJ. PREGAME TEAM RATING Rays 49% Wacha 1578 –14 0 1564 Yankees 51% Taillon 1551 –2 24 1573 Padres 36% Knehr 1518 –16 0 1502 Giants 64% Webb 1561 14 24 1599 Red Sox 58% Sale 1521 26 0 1547 Nationals 42% Adon 1478 –7 24 1495 Orioles 31% Zimmermann 1411 4 0 1415 Blue Jays 69% Ryu 1545 –12 24 1557 Brewers 31% Anderson 1542 –33 0 1509 Dodgers 69% Buehler 1611 17 24 1652 Angels 42% Detmers 1488 –17 0 1471 Mariners 58% Anderson 1499 4 24 1527
stringer bell Verified Member Posted October 3, 2021 Posted October 3, 2021 Here we go! Everyone starts at the same time.
stringer bell Verified Member Posted October 3, 2021 Posted October 3, 2021 Jays way up, Sox down 2-1, TB & NY no score and Mariners down 4-2.
stringer bell Verified Member Posted October 3, 2021 Posted October 3, 2021 Also the Gigantes are poised to clinch the NL West, up 7-1.
stringer bell Verified Member Posted October 3, 2021 Posted October 3, 2021 8 hours ago, Otto von Ballpark said: The Nationals may have the tallest order today. Not only do they have to beat Sale, the Nationals starting pitcher is making his MLB debut, with only 3 games at AA and 1 at AAA. He's not a top prospect either -- only 40 FV at Fangraphs, 22nd in the Nationals org (also 22nd at MLB.com). And the Nats are ahead in the 6th. Except for Twins-Yankees, you never know in baseball.
Squirrel Community Moderator Posted October 3, 2021 Posted October 3, 2021 Bos-Wash game is tied at 5; TB-NYY are tied in the 9th at 0; Jays still crushing the O's and Mariners are lagging behind the Angels
Squirrel Community Moderator Posted October 3, 2021 Posted October 3, 2021 ooops ... and Yankees just won ... 1-0 ... so ... they are in. BOOOOOO! If the Red Sox win, then it's set ... if they lose and the Jays win ...
stringer bell Verified Member Posted October 3, 2021 Posted October 3, 2021 Sox score two in the ninth to take the lead. I don’t hate them as much as NY and I’m glad they would host the Yankees if they win.
lecroy24fan Verified Member Posted October 3, 2021 Posted October 3, 2021 The lack of actual chaos is disappointing.
tony&rodney Old-Timey Member Posted October 4, 2021 Posted October 4, 2021 The Mariners were fun to watch but certainly outplayed their expectations and it was really disappointing to have the Blue Jays fall just short of the playoffs. Although I preferred both of the prevously two mentioned teams we have to hand it to Boston and New York. Boston would seem to be on the verge of collapse repeatedly and rise up again. The Yankees keep churning out pitchers like Peralta, Holmes, German, Luetge, King, Abreu, Cortes, and Loaisiga. These unsung pitchers kept the Rays at bay until the big boys finally scratched a run across on a fielder's choice. The games were tight and ended in dramatic ninth inning fashion, a baseball fan's delight. It would have been a travesty to have the playoffs decided by Manfredball's ghost runner shenanigans. Fenway is a classic but, yah, I wish the Blue Jays and Mariners had gotten into the playoffs.
Otto von Ballpark Old-Timey Member Posted October 4, 2021 Author Posted October 4, 2021 16 hours ago, lecroy24fan said: The lack of actual chaos is disappointing. It's interesting, most seasons have some chaos potential in their late stages -- and higher-percentage two-way ties too, not just longer-shot 4-way scenarios. But it all seems to sort itself out by the season's regularly scheduled end, and even mild chaos is generally averted. 2012 saw the introduction of the second wild card, theoretically expanding the potential for tiebreaker chaos, but we've only seen 3 tiebreaker games in that time: 2013 AL Wild Card #2, and one each for the 2018 NL Central and West. (And 2018 wasn't particularly chaotic, as the 5-team NL playoff field was set after game 162. The two game 163 losers just had to match up in the wild card game, like a little double-elimination tournament.) Additionally, the last single wild-card season (2011) had both the AL and NL wild card races go down to the wire but both were sorted (in dramatic fashion) on the season's final day. I wonder, do most teams in that range either rise to the occasion or falter before tiebreakers are actually necessary?
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