sampleSizeOfOne Verified Member Posted May 19, 2021 Posted May 19, 2021 2 minutes ago, bighat said: C'mon Shoe just get outta the 5th tied please. This walk just now puts two on base. This is exactly the type of pitching that has been killing the Twins all year. Instead of putting a team away, a pitcher walks a guy with 2 outs and now if the Sox get a big hit the Twins could be down by a few. That do?
sampleSizeOfOne Verified Member Posted May 19, 2021 Posted May 19, 2021 Alright, let's grab Shoemaker a lead just in case he doesn't start the next inning.
Mill1634 Verified Member Posted May 19, 2021 Author Posted May 19, 2021 Said it yesterday, will say it again. I've seen enough of Kyle Garlick against RHP
bighat Verified Member Posted May 19, 2021 Posted May 19, 2021 I don't see how the Twins can put Shoemaker out there for the 6th and expect to win. I also don't see any other attractive options. We're watching a microcosm of the Twins pitching problems play out in real time here as we speak.
wavedog Verified Member Posted May 19, 2021 Posted May 19, 2021 At this point I think I would rather see some Refsnyder rather than Garlick. I think Refsnyder plays a better defense as well. Garlick always seems very slow to get to the ball.
sampleSizeOfOne Verified Member Posted May 19, 2021 Posted May 19, 2021 Rortvedt! I spelled it right, i think. I also like spelling Refsnyder.
Mill1634 Verified Member Posted May 19, 2021 Author Posted May 19, 2021 Normally I think you pull Shoemaker. Under these circumstances, I think you send him out for the 6th until (if) there is a baserunner.
Danchat Old-Timey Member Posted May 19, 2021 Posted May 19, 2021 1 minute ago, Mill1634 said: Normally I think you pull Shoemaker. Under these circumstances, I think you send him out for the 6th until (if) there is a baserunner. Well that didn't take long!
Mill1634 Verified Member Posted May 19, 2021 Author Posted May 19, 2021 And that is the risk with putting him out there. Still think it was the right call. Gotta pull him now, though
shortround81 Verified Member Posted May 19, 2021 Posted May 19, 2021 4 minutes ago, sampleSizeOfOne said: Rortvedt! I spelled it right, i think. I also like spelling Refsnyder. It's like spelling Mientkiewicz!
Danchat Old-Timey Member Posted May 19, 2021 Posted May 19, 2021 5 minutes ago, bighat said: I don't see how the Twins can put Shoemaker out there for the 6th and expect to win. I also don't see any other attractive options. We're watching a microcosm of the Twins pitching problems play out in real time here as we speak. 100% agreed, this is when Rocco would normally pull him, but since the pen's been so bad, he must keep him in. And he'll likely give up at least a run here...
sampleSizeOfOne Verified Member Posted May 19, 2021 Posted May 19, 2021 More extra innings practice. We sure need it.
sampleSizeOfOne Verified Member Posted May 19, 2021 Posted May 19, 2021 Just now, shortround81 said: It's like spelling Mientkiewicz! Which is how come i use his nickname so often... Good ol' Douggie baseball! (and the ball that broke the bambino's curse...)
wavedog Verified Member Posted May 19, 2021 Posted May 19, 2021 How can you walk that bum? Give me a break
Mike Sixel Old-Timey Member Posted May 19, 2021 Posted May 19, 2021 I'm glad I don't have to choose between leaving him in, and bringing in someone from this bullpen....
bighat Verified Member Posted May 19, 2021 Posted May 19, 2021 Rocco Baldelli: always playing for tomorrow, never for today. He's always willing to lose today just to save some guys for tomorrow. Day after day we see this stuff.
sampleSizeOfOne Verified Member Posted May 19, 2021 Posted May 19, 2021 1 minute ago, wavedog said: How can you walk that bum? Give me a break It wasn't easy. It took 4 balls.
Danchat Old-Timey Member Posted May 19, 2021 Posted May 19, 2021 I think it's about time we're done with Shoemaker. There is no need for a mediocre veteran #5 starter on the worst team in baseball.
bighat Verified Member Posted May 19, 2021 Posted May 19, 2021 Once you see a guy like Shoe is no longer competitive, you have to pull him. Rocco's always trying to get *one more guy*.
sampleSizeOfOne Verified Member Posted May 19, 2021 Posted May 19, 2021 On the other hand, it was worse yesterday...
Danchat Old-Timey Member Posted May 19, 2021 Posted May 19, 2021 Just now, bighat said: Once you see a guy like Shoe is no longer competitive, you have to pull him. Rocco's always trying to get *one more guy*. Huh? Rocco always get accused of pulling his starters early, and rarely keeping them out there too long.
Mill1634 Verified Member Posted May 19, 2021 Author Posted May 19, 2021 That was the worst pitched 2 run, 6 inning outing I've ever seen. Smoke and mirrors to the max. That start probably buys him another start (or 2 or 3), but it really shouldn't
wavedog Verified Member Posted May 19, 2021 Posted May 19, 2021 Wake-up Offense and answer that run - someone besides Cruz do something productive.
Danchat Old-Timey Member Posted May 19, 2021 Posted May 19, 2021 1 minute ago, Mill1634 said: That was the worst pitched 2 run, 6 inning outing I've ever seen. Smoke and mirrors to the max. That start probably buys him another start (or 2 or 3), but it really shouldn't Right, I forget that this counts as a quality start. Of course, the offense being bad plays a factor here, as this wouldn't seem so bad if we had scored a couple more runs.
Cap'n Piranha Verified Member Posted May 19, 2021 Posted May 19, 2021 4 minutes ago, bighat said: Rocco Baldelli: always playing for tomorrow, never for today. He's always willing to lose today just to save some guys for tomorrow. Day after day we see this stuff. I disagree with this. Rocco consistently runs his best bullpen pitchers into the ground because he pitches them any time it's a close game. He continues to pitch Rogers on back-to-back days despite the statistical reality that that is a bad idea. He kept playing Buxton, even when Buxton was hurt, which may have contributed to the more serious injury.
Mike Sixel Old-Timey Member Posted May 19, 2021 Posted May 19, 2021 5 minutes ago, Danchat said: Huh? Rocco always get accused of pulling his starters early, and rarely keeping them out there too long. Doesn't matter what he does, people here will rip him for it.
wavedog Verified Member Posted May 19, 2021 Posted May 19, 2021 Good Job Polanco - you didn't swing at Ball 4 like last time
Mill1634 Verified Member Posted May 19, 2021 Author Posted May 19, 2021 Haven't really seen this mentioned anywhere...but Arraez has been horrible for the past month. Split G GS PA AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS TB BAbip 2021 Totals 33 32 136 117 17 32 2 1 1 14 0 0 15 14 .274 .360 .333 .694 39 .298 Last 7 days 7 6 28 27 2 6 0 0 0 2 0 0 1 1 .222 .250 .222 .472 6 .231 Last 14 days 8 7 33 31 2 7 0 0 0 3 0 0 1 3 .226 .242 .226 .468 7 .241 Last 28 days 18 17 76 67 10 17 1 1 0 6 0 0 6 7 .254 .329 .299 .627 20 .279 Last 365 days 65 63 257 229 33 68 11 1 1 27 0 0 23 25 .297 .362 .367 .729 84 .325
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