New moderators?

[ashbury]

I saw that ... and wrote to him and asked him about it. And I really liked his reply, which is why I bumped this post and reiterated my nomination.

Similar thought process then - either a warning point, or sentenced to moderator duty.

 

The two you nominated aren't really prolific posters, which only affects my thinking in terms of how often they look at the site, but they've been steady, and both post in a way that doesn't make me dread it.

[Squirrel]

 

Similar thought process then - either a warning point, or sentenced to moderator duty.

 

Uh, neither. His post did not comment on moderator action, so it wasn't point-worth, at all, imo. Not sure why'd you think so. And not sentenced to moderator duty from that post. But, as I said, when I PM'd him, I liked what he said in return.

[Squirrel]

 

 

The two you nominated aren't really prolific posters, which only affects my thinking in terms of how often they look at the site, but they've been steady, and both post in a way that doesn't make me dread it.

I'm not looking for prolific as a prime characteristic ... or at least, I don't know your definition of prolific. I see them on here enough and participating. And how they participate ... tone, humor, smarts, etc ... again ... quality over quantity. Yeah, if someone only had a couple hundred or less posts, I might think twice about it, but I had very few posts by comparison to all of you when I started. Sometimes you have to look beyond quantity and I think we may be disregarding someone who  might otherwise be good.

 

But, as I've said before, I think we all have a different list of qualities we are looking for that makes it so we have little consensus in the who. Except for spycake, I don't think we've had any agreement, other than begrudgingly.

[diehardtwinsfan]

I need to pay more attention to Han Joleo.. But I like Swain, and I think the suggestion of twinssporto should get some merit too. 

[Brock Beauchamp]

 

Update?

Have we contacted Spycake?

If so, response?

Okay, finally looping back around on this.

 

No answer from spycake so he's off the table. I don't find his non-response terribly out of character, to be honest. Which is fine, but we need to move on.

 

I'd like a list of up to three people you'd like to see as moderators. After most of us contribute, we can narrow down the list. I haven't compiled my own list yet but will start putting one together as I think about it more.

[Squirrel]

Three?

 

In no particular order:

bighat

Sconnie

SwainZag

 

Honorable mentions:

Jorgenswest

Han Joelo (I'm less and less convinced of this one even though I thought he'd be great once upon a time.)

[diehardtwinsfan]

I'd consider Wsnydes... 

 

 

I'd second SwainZag and Jorgenswest. Dont' know bighat, Sconnie or Han Joelo that well (not opposed eithr, just don't know them).. 

[Riverbrian]

Swainzag is impressive... After Spycake... he's the next obvious choice.  

 

Sconnie is consistently level headed. 

 

I don't have a third name... just a recommendation. Pick someone who is consistently active in the minor league forum. The best of the prospect inclined if you will. 

 

[Squirrel]

 

I don't have a third name... just a recommendation. Pick someone who is consistently active in the minor league forum. The best of the prospect inclined if you will.

 

Goulik

[ashbury]

These names are pretty good, and I'm not good at remembering long posting histories anyway so I doubt I can give Brock an independent 3-name list like he asks.

 

I have a vague recollection of Sconnie being a little thin-skinned at times, perhaps in the presence of "negativity". And an even vaguer recollection of our having to take mod action against bighat in the very early going. I'll try and remember to do some vetting/research in the next day or two, to provide more specifics.

 

How about milldaddy?

 

Brian makes a good point about minor leagues, I guess as a way of gauging commitment to the site. I also like to see how well candidates do in game threads - sometimes you have to "take a punch" there and roll with it, which is IMO a key consideration for being a mod. Maybe I'll take an unwarranted swipe at one during a coming game, something unfair even , and see what they do - although, people do react differently to the mods so that's probably not a fair test.

[Squirrel]

These names are pretty good, and I'm not good at remembering long posting histories anyway so I doubt I can give Brock an independent 3-name list like he asks.

 

I have a vague recollection of Sconnie being a little thin-skinned at times, perhaps in the presence of "negativity". And an even vaguer recollection of our having to take mod action against bighat in the very early going. I'll try and remember to do some vetting/research in the next day or two, to provide more specifics.

 

How about milldaddy?

 

Brian makes a good point about minor leagues, I guess as a way of gauging commitment to the site. I also like to see how well candidates do in game threads - sometimes you have to "take a punch" there and roll with it, which is IMO a key consideration for being a mod. Maybe I'll take an unwarranted swipe at one during a coming game, something unfair even , and see what they do - although, people do react differently to the mods so that's probably not a fair test.

Just so you know what my process was ... I went through a couple of very lengthy threads and wrote down a bunch of names of posters whose posts I liked (not necessarily agreed with) and who seemed engaged. I had a list of about 8-9 names, but Brock said three. So then I searched for their names mentioned in this forum and read what I could about whatever. Then I thought about who here would pushback on some of the names I had. That’s where I came with my list. It wasn’t simply posters I liked. I didn’t really get into the thought process of ‘Would they make a good moderator’ because quite frankly, I’m not sure what that would entail anymore. But in my research, I didn’t eliminate someone who caused an incident back in 2013-14. I think where they’ve come in understanding what is expected is more important than something they did as a new member 5-6 years ago.

 

Just so you know some of the other names I had but eliminated for one reason or another:

 

Hosken

GCTF - while he can be edgy at times, I think he’s a great poster. I think he is ‘Snepp-like’ and has good snark. But I thought several here wouldn’t appreciate what that quality would bring. But I think he could bring needed personality in what we do, but then, not sure, as I said, what would make a good moderator.

Howeda7 - Not sure how prolific he is

mikelink45

 

goulik - the name I just threw out there when Brian wanted someone who hangs out mostly in the minor league forum is someone who used to do AAP pretty steadily. I really haven’t followed his posting lately, but it just came to mind. Not sure I’m really sold on him, but he is a really nice guy as we had a lot of PM exchanges the couple of years I helped set up and run AAP.

[Squirrel]

Oh, and I’m very so so on milldaddy.

[Riverbrian]

Lot of this is going to be our individual impressions. 

 

I'm against both Milldaddy and Bighat.  I don't hate them or anything like that but they have rubbed me the wrong way at times. 

 

Jorgenswest is a good guy but... for lack of a better word... he seems robotic or inflexible. 

 

Sconnie has been around a long time. He's had plenty of chances to turn over apple carts. If he's turned one over I don't remember it but that's a pretty good ratio when you consider how long and often he has been here. Sconnie has my vote. 

 

Swainzag has my vote period. Extremely sensible and measured. 

 

I could also get behind Wyndes but I think an active minor league forum guy makes sense.  

[Squirrel]

 

 

 

I could also get behind Wyndes but I think an active minor league forum guy makes sense.  

If you're going to get behind someone, you need to at least spell their name correctly.

 

My objection to wsnydes is that he just doesn't ... well ... stand out to me in any way, good or bad. I want someone who can stand out and stand up because that is necessary. Okay, now I'm starting to think about what I think would make a good moderator. I don't think I had a good first impression of bighat. I think he was kind of a negative nellie when he first started posting. But then he started doing a few game threads, and I had some PM exchanges with him, and see where he's at today now that he's been on the site a while, I like him. I also don't want to fill the moderation crew with 'happy and positive.' I actively thought about personality after I made a list. I want someone that can bring a little edge from time to time.

 

I'm also big on doing some research and paying attention to where posters are now and not keeping them corralled in my first impression pen. You might miss out on someone good that way. Or, you might be right all along and keep them there.

[Riverbrian]

 

goulik - the name I just threw out there when Brian wanted someone who hangs out mostly in the minor league forum is someone who used to do AAP pretty steadily. I really haven’t followed his posting lately, but it just came to mind. Not sure I’m really sold on him, but he is a really nice guy as we had a lot of PM exchanges the couple of years I helped set up and run AAP.

 

I don't spend a ton of time in the minors forum. 

 

I'd trust ya with your description of goulik. 

[Riverbrian]

I look for measured responses...Level headedness and that's about it. 

 

Posivitive, Negative, personal views on positional flexibility don't matter that much to me. I'm trying to just consider level headedness. 

 

Spycake, Swainzag and Sconnie are at the top of that list in my opinion.

 

Wyneysydstyyndes is also up there. 

 

After that... even those I didn't express favorable opinions on, are still good suggestions. 

[Squirrel]

 

I look for measured responses...Level headedness and that's about it. 

 

Posivitive, Negative, personal views on positional flexibility don't matter that much to me. I'm trying to just consider level headedness. 

 

Spycake, Swainzag and Sconnie are at the top of that list in my opinion.

 

Wyneysydstyyndes is also up there. 

 

After that... even those I didn't express favorable opinions on, are still good suggestions. 

We still need posters who are able to address other posters, so at the very least, I want someone who has a little 'more' than just level-headed posting. I want someone who can also stand up and stand out a little.

[stringer bell]

SwainZag—yes. Maybe consider Bighat and Don Walcott.

[Squirrel]

Bottom line for me ... I'm just looking for posters who are willing and able (both in time and ability) to stand up and stand out and actually do the work.

[nicksaviking]

I still like Blake in terms of both frequency and personality, but you guys are all much better at this stuff than I. I still struggle to put names to past infractions and incidents in the electronic world. Where Blake is concerned, his recent game thread contributions are what stand out most to me. However, I’d really prefer to defer to you guys.

 

Though maybe I shouldn’t, knowing the misstep you made in your last mod selection.

[ashbury]

Though maybe I shouldn’t, knowing the misstep you made in your last mod selection.

Believe me, we are all haunted by this.

 

 

 

[Riverbrian]

Blake is a good guy

 

My impression is that I'm not sure he is strong enough. 

[ashbury]

Blake is a good guy

 

My impression is that I'm not sure he is strong enough. 

I keep thinking of what should be a list of qualifications, and when I write them down an awful lot of them can be acquired by On the Job Training.

 

For example: a sense of fairness, a willingness to be out front or act decisively when it's called for, an ability to articulate one's reasons, a knack for (the phrase I keep coming back to) taking a punch gracefully when that's called for, the capacity to re-evaluate and even say "I was wrong" when need be.

 

Also: can they help us construct the next list of candidates? That should be Job One.

 

Probably decisiveness is the hardest of these to learn, and it also may be the most difficult to detect with certainty just from reading posts, game thread or otherwise.

 

A complete absence of one of these characteristics becomes visible with time; I think we've weeded them out instinctively, in the candidates discussed. OTOH none of us is perfect in these, and we've probably all improved in them over time.

 

So I think we have a lengthy list in this thread already of candidates who can be good, and who haven't been eliminated by the above traits, and the key becomes more to do a good job integrating whoever we do pick. Which also means we can be arbitrary about who we do pick, among this crop.

 

 

[ashbury]

I don't recall member "Nine of twelve" being mentioned in this thread yet. Some style to the postings, a la Carole's wish. I think the views are usually well thought out. Any black marks come to mind?

 

And if posting frequency isn't a high priority, how about "ChrisKnutson"? Got a few dozen posts in the month of July, and seems solid.

[glunn]

What about the guy who has Nickpunto in his name?

[twinsnorth49]

Personally I like Hosken Bombo Disco's style. He has good content, is knowledgeable, on the site frequently and has some edge to him at times. He has a pretty dry wit, which I like when a point needs to be made sometimes. 

 

Not sure about Blake, I like him but he's a bit flaky at times. I think he might take things a bit personal. Don Walcott seems ok to me. Nine of Twelve might be an option. I'd like to see some more of his posts first. Not sure he's strong enough either. 

[Brock Beauchamp]

Upon further consideration, I’d like to put an emphasis on people who would both make good moderators and appear regularly in game threads, if possible.

[Squirrel]

 

Upon further consideration, I’d like to put an emphasis on people who would both make good moderators and appear regularly in game threads, if possible.

Okay ... well ... I'm going to have to go through some game threads and get a better sense of this. But I know bighat is a game thread participant so I'll leave him on my list. I think game threads is where he found is way into the site.

 

And SwainZag does jump in from time to time.

[ashbury]

 

What about the guy who has Nickpunto in his name?

MVP Nick Punto. I'll throw in a criterion I haven't seen mentioned yet, but I think of him as kind of a lightweight. When the participation is game thread only, that means I don't really know how the member puts together an idea. (I hope to goodness we perform our usual cleansing of the mod forum, when the new person is added. )

 

OTOH, you are probably thinking of how he did invest time to express to the Cleveland kid why he was getting a bad reception from the game thread participants. That was nicely moderatorial.

 

Not sure if that is enough, though. Unless, we are looking specifically for game thread policing. (I think I'm not.)

[glunn]

 

MVP Nick Punto. I'll throw in a criterion I haven't seen mentioned yet, but I think of him as kind of a lightweight. When the participation is game thread only, that means I don't really know how the member puts together an idea. (I hope to goodness we perform our usual cleansing of the mod forum, when the new person is added. )

 

OTOH, you are probably thinking of how he did invest time to express to the Cleveland kid why he was getting a bad reception from the game thread participants. That was nicely moderatorial.

 

Not sure if that is enough, though. Unless, we are looking specifically for game thread policing. (I think I'm not.)

You are correct. I liked what he did in that game thread Maybe he would be good for the positivity team?