Trade or stand pat

[USAFChief]

He looks like Johnny Damon minus the wheels.  I'd be happy if he have Damon's career.

Reminds me more of Paul O'Neill.

[drjim]

Thought Shawn Green, but might be a little light.

[Mike Sixel]

For those interested in trading, there are some interesting stats in this post:

 

http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/the-yankees-and-the-stanford-marshmallow-experiment/

 

I don't agree with the premise that only succeeding 25 of 70 times means never try. It means teams are probably spending too much capital in trades, because they aren't properly assessing odds. OTOH, that's the market price of making trades, so maybe they are...

[jokin]

 

Thus far in the season, 25% of Kepler's plate appearances have come against LHP.

 

He's getting his reps against lefties but not to the detriment of the team.

 

Still would rather like to see Kepler play at least 154 games.

[Darius]

This is team is way too flawed to even consider making a run at a World Series. I don't think adding one starter will change that.

 

The season isn't a quarter of the way over, and we're a half-game up of the struggling defending AL champs, in arguably the worst division in baseball, with 8 wins against one of the worst team in baseball. Let's not get carried away, here.

 

This team's roster is set up to make a serious run a couple of years from now. Some of those prospective pieces are still in the minors (Gordon, Burdi, Romero, Gonsalves, etc).

 

Who do you trade for a SP rental? Gordon? Any other prospect close to scratching any top 100 lists are currently hurt, or returning from injury. Not sure you can just go out and get a legit SP that easily.

 

I don't want to mortgage a potential powerhouse in a couple of years from for a pipe dream now. I'd still like to see them try and get some young starting pitching for guys like Santana, Dozier, Grossman, etc. Then, get aggressive in free agency, and really load up for 2018-19.

[drjim]

A decent primer from Heyman, thinking for both buying and selling.

 

https://www.fanragsports.com/mlb/inside-baseball-70-players-hit-trade-block/

[Richie the Rally Goat]

For those interested in trading, there are some interesting stats in this post:

 

http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/the-yankees-and-the-stanford-marshmallow-experiment/

 

I don't agree with the premise that only succeeding 25 of 70 times means never try. It means teams are probably spending too much capital in trades, because they aren't properly assessing odds. OTOH, that's the market price of making trades, so maybe they are...

I think it makes a case for a balanced approach.

 

http://www.fangraphs.com/community/success-rate-of-mlb-first-round-draft-picks-by-slot/

 

According to the article trading players and drafting players have pretty similar success rate. While you have more chances in the draft, it takes much longer.

[drivlikejehu]

You can't directly compare draft picks to trade pickups, because the latter method requires trading away prospects who haven't 'busted' yet.

[Brandon]

Just a reminder that Sano is a free agent in 4 seasons including this one. I would trade anyone in A ball and below and be choosy about certain AA or AAA players depending on what we get back. Also why trade Santana since he will be here for 3 more seasons. Next season we get May back to go with Berrios, Mejia, Santana and ?, Sledgers, Gonsalves, and Romero and possibly Vanderbuilt pitcher could be in the rotation next year. So i am fine with a rental starter. I think Neshek is someone we should target. I would trade Haley and low A prospect for him. Not sure on starting pitchers but i would rather not wait.

[Otto von Ballpark]

Just a reminder that Sano is a free agent in 4 seasons including this one.

Actually 4 seasons after this one. 2016 was Sano's first full MLB season. 2017 is currently his second.

[Brandon]

So he wasnt on the roster when he had TJ? Good

[Trevor0333]

They absolutely have to go after a 5th starter and bullpen help. You don't have to give up Kepler for that.

 

I'd try and move a package combo of Kyle Gibson, Kohl Stewart, Zack Granite for a 5th starter and reliever or 2.

[Mike Sixel]

 

They absolutely have to go after a 5th starter and bullpen help. You don't have to give up Kepler for that.

 

I'd try and move a package combo of Kyle Gibson, Kohl Stewart, Zack Granite for a 5th starter and reliever or 2.

Teams don't make trades until July.

 

Who is trading for any of those players right now?

[yarnivek1972]

 

Teams don't make trades until July.

 

Who is trading for any of those players right now?

 

 

Maybe a GM who has amnesia and thinks this is 2015?

[USAFChief]

Teams don't make trades until July.

 

Who is trading for any of those players right now?

There's a list of June trades at MLBTraderumors up right now.

 

They do happen.

[Mike Sixel]

 

There's a list of June trades at MLBTraderumors up right now.

They do happen.

 

Fair, is it June yet?

 

But, seriously, who is trading for Kyle Gibson right now?

[Otto von Ballpark]

 

There's a list of June trades at MLBTraderumors up right now.

They do happen.

Thanks for the tip!

 

From their list, Shields and Norris were dealt last June, with pretty dreadful results for their new clubs.  In 2015, Bronson Arroyo was traded in June, but he was hurt so it was pretty much a cash component.

 

I'm guessing those are the kinds of guys on offer right now too.

[Mike Sixel]

 

There's a list of June trades at MLBTraderumors up right now.

They do happen.

 

wow, that's mostly a sad list. but thanks for letting me know, it was a good(?) read.