2014 Lineup

[PMKI]

If you guys had to guess what do you think the Twins lineup and pitching rotation will look like in two years? I am interested to see what everyone has to say.

[Ultima Ratio]

Dang, I thought this was for 2013, scrap the below:

 

SP

 

FA (Joe Blanton?)

FA (Colby Lewis?)

Blackburn

Diamond

PJ Walters/Hendricks/De Vries (in order of likelihood)

 

CF - Span

LF - Revere

C - Mauer

DH - Hammer

1B - Morneau

RF - Torii Hunter (If price is right; a gimmick to keep attendance up at worst)

3B - Valencia

SS - Dozier

2B - Carroll/Casilla

 

Not a bod lineup, but still a very weak SP rotation

[minn55441]

The only players currently on our roster that will remain in 2014 are Mauer and Dozier.

 

Span will be traded for pitching and to make room for our abundance of young outfielders. I think both Bennie and Plouffe will have a shot to earn spots but I don't think Plouffe will show enough during the rest of this season to make 2013's roster, let alone 2014. I hope Revere keeps hitting and will turn into an every day player for us, but I would put his chances at less than 25% for 2014.

 

As far a pitching goes, I see Perkins still in a Twin's uniform and Diamond, Walters and Hendricks all have a shot, but again less than 25%. We will see a lot of new faces next season and then in 2014 we will have essentially a whole new team.

[Rosterman]

Mauer catcher

Parmelee 1st

Dozier 2nd

Michael SS

Sano 3rd

Benson CF

Hicks RF

Revere LF

Willingham or Morneau DH

 

SP - Wimmers, Gibson, Bromberg, Diamond, Hermson, Salcedo

 

CLoser - Perkins

BP - Guiierrez, Guerra, Slama, Duensing, Hirschfield, someone

 

Bench - Hermann, someone, someone, someone

 

I see new young faces. Questions would be who ultimately plays 1st or catches

[J-Dog Dungan]

Michael would really have to start raking the ball, because I believe he is hitting something like .205 in Single-A. Rosterman, while those guys that you have in the starting rotation are guys from our system, I think that the Twins will have gotten at least one FA pitcher from another organization (not that I believe that the Twins won't have most of those guys in their rotation). Could someone enlighten me as to who Hirschfield is?

[twinsfanstreif]

I'll take a shot at 2014:

SP

Gibson

Diamond

Hendricks

Hermsen

Gausman/Appel/FA(Garza?)

 

RP

Gutierrez

Waldrop

Guerra

Swarzak

Manship

Robinson

Perkins(Closer)

 

Line Up

RF - Span

CF - Hicks

C - Mauer

LF - Willingham

DH - Morneau

3B - Sano

SS - Dozier

1B - Parmelee

2B - Michael

 

Bench

OF/INF - Plouffe

OF - Revere

C - Chris Hermann

INF - Florimon

 

Just a shot in the dark, this could probably all change if they decide to blow up the roster this summer but I'm going on the basis that they won't and won't be really active in free agency either just as the twins do.

[Ultima Ratio]

There will be continue to be significant turnover between now and the end of 2013, which makes predicting the 2014 roster impossible beyond those still under contract (Mauer, Hammer, Perkins, Span and options on Blackburn, Carroll and Yoshi... that's it, right?)

[J-Dog Dungan]

I think Hollimon beats out Florimon because Hollimon actually has power and is increasing his fielding ability whereas Florimon really doesn't have any power potential.

[stringer bell]

I think Hollimon beats out Florimon because Hollimon actually has power and is increasing his fielding ability whereas Florimon really doesn't have any power potential.

Hollimon will be 30 in two weeks. Florimon is 25. If Hollimon doesn't break through this year, he leaves this organization. Florimon has hit half a dozen homers this year between NB and Rochester. He's not a little guy--I think he'll develop some power. In summary, Florimon probably has a future with the Twins, Hollimon probably doesn't.

[PMKI]

There will be continue to be significant turnover between now and the end of 2013, which makes predicting the 2014 roster impossible beyond those still under contract (Mauer, Hammer, Perkins, Span and options on Blackburn, Carroll and Yoshi... that's it, right?)

I just think it is fun to see what people think. And by 2014 I imagine that a lot of the prospects will be up and possibly everyday players.

[Bark's Lounge]

This is my 2014 Opening Day Line-up (Starting pitcher and Closer included)

 

C - Hermann or Free Agent

1B - Morneau/Parmelee

2B - Rosario

SS - Dozier

3B - Mauer

LF - Sano

CF - Aaron Hicks

RF - Angel Morales

DH - Morneau/Parmelee

 

SP - Peabody Firefrost (The 1st overall pick from the 2013 draft - he has Strasburg's power arm and make-up, mixed with Patrick Swayze's ability to twinkle his toes while dancing.

 

Closer - G.P. Dynamite (Glen Perkins legally changes his name to this)

[Riverbrian]

This is my 2014 Opening Day Line-up (Starting pitcher and Closer included)

 

C - Hermann or Free Agent

1B - Morneau/Parmelee

2B - Rosario

SS - Dozier

3B - Mauer

LF - Sano

CF - Aaron Hicks

RF - Angel Morales

DH - Morneau/Parmelee

 

SP - Peabody Firefrost (The 1st overall pick from the 2013 draft - he has Strasburg's power arm and make-up, mixed with Patrick Swayze's ability to twinkle his toes while dancing.

 

Closer - G.P. Dynamite (Glen Perkins legally changes his name to this)

Nice... I was reading along and I actually stopped and googled Peabody Firefrost. Two points for you Bark. I'll take my usual minus one.

[Bark's Lounge]

Nice... I was reading along and I actually stopped and googled Peabody Firefrost. Two points for you Bark. I'll take my usual minus one.

River Brian, take the 3 points back. You crack me up! It is well worth the price of admission.

[twinsnorth49]

River Brian' date=' take the 3 points back. You crack me up! It is well worth the price of admission.[/quote']

 

Nice... I was reading along and I actually stopped and googled Peabody Firefrost. Two points for you Bark. I'll take my usual minus one.

 

Thank god there is at least 2 people who can mix their Twins obsession with a sense of humour. On a serious note, Bark, I like the inclusion of Rosario at 2nd although in 2014 I'm torn between him and Florimon, Rosario 2015, other than that, aces.

[Riverbrian]

With egg on my face and an admitted lack of 2012 knowledge I have to ask.

 

How do you quote multiple quotes in one reply? I hit "reply with quote" and it neatly puts it in a box for me. Adding another quote to the original quote is beyond my talents.

 

That skill could come in handy.

 

Yes... Everyone can make fun of me for not knowing this but teach me while making fun of me.

[twinsnorth49]

With egg on my face and an admitted lack of 2012 knowledge I have to ask.

 

How do you quote multiple quotes in one reply? I hit "reply with quote" and it neatly puts it in a box for me. Adding another quote to the original quote is beyond my talents.

 

That skill could come in handy.

 

 

 

Yes... Everyone can make fun of me for not knowing this but teach me while making fun of me.

See the little icon to the right of Reply With Quote? That's the multi-quote button, hit that to quote the first message you want to appear, for the next quote you want to appear just hit the "Reply with Quote" button on that message and it will appear under the first message and so on, voila.

[MWLFan]

This is my 2014 Opening Day Line-up (Starting pitcher and Closer included)

 

 

SP - Peabody Firefrost (The 1st overall pick from the 2013 draft - he has Strasburg's power arm and make-up, mixed with Patrick Swayze's ability to twinkle his toes while dancing.

 

Closer - G.P. Dynamite (Glen Perkins legally changes his name to this)

Google says that Peabody Firefrost Sid Finchs bastard child?

[jmlease1]

Difficult to project 2014 right now, but here's an idea:

 

C: Mauer

1B: Parmelee

2B: Veteran Free Agent That Many People Think is Washed-up

SS: Dozier

3B: Plouffe

LF: Willingham

CF: Revere

RF: Benson

DH: Veteran Free Agent That Many People Think is Washed-up

 

Rotation:

Gibson

Diamond

Hendriks

Wimmers

Veteran Free Agent That Many People Think is Washed-up

 

Bullpen:

Glen Perkins

Deolis Guerra

A bunch of guys we can't possibly know...yet (and that's ok)

 

I suspect Gardy hates Valencia and will run him out of town. Plouffe is enough of an enigma he won't go away, which will drive a close friend of mine nuts, so clearly he has to be in the Opening Day lineup. I 'massuming Willingham doesn't get dealt to be the "veteran slugger" and I'm actually ok with it, since his contract is reasonable and we need his kind of power. This presumes Span gets dealt, and I just pray we got something good for him and not a couple of A-ball prospects and/or a reliever. Benson looks like he has no shot right now, so I have to pick him, since someone is coming out of nowhere to make the 2014 roster. Rosario won't be ready yet (mid-season call up), so the Twins will sign a guy like Jamey Carroll to caddy for a while. the rotation is not my preference, just what i think might happen; I'd rather see the Twins drop some serious money on a front-line starter (Zack Greinke might be my top choice), but I can't say they'll do it. So I'm assuming it'll be guys working through the system with an old veteran in the back (the tradition of Livan Hernandez, Jason Marquis, etc. lives on!). Guerra should be in the 'pen by 2014; absent injury, I expect him there in 2013, with Perkins taking over as closer. The rest of the jobs should be filled as needed like we did this year: without spending stupid money on anyone, or signing guys for their name.

[Craig in MN]

SP

James Sheilds

Gibson

Hendricks

Diamond

Bromberg

 

 

RP

Perkins

Guerra

Burnett

Duensing

Tyler Robertson

Oliveros

Waldrop

 

Line Up

RF - Benson

LF - Nick Swisher

C - Mauer

DH - Willingham

1B - Morneau

3B - Deibinson Romero

SS - Dozier

2B - Pedro Floriman

CF - Hicks

 

Bench

OF - Revere

IF - Carroll

IF/OF - Parmalee

C - Butera

 

Other guys in the mix:

C/OF - Chris Hermann

OF - Oswaldo Arcia

INF - James Beresford

SP - BJ Hermsen

RP - Carlos Gutierrez

RP - Swarzak

 

 

 

In 2013, Twins trade Span for Sheilds, sign Nick Swisher to a Willingham-ish/Cuddyer-ish deal to rotate between OF/1B/DH, and a one year innings eater starter to let some of the kids develop. Revere gets a shot in CF until Benson or Hicks are ready. Parmalee gets in the mix in the interim as well. The rotation keeps playing musical chairs, but there is enough talent there to find 5 arms. Blackburn, Burton, Capps & Valencia leave after the season.

 

In 2014, Morneau has been relatively healthy and productive, but still is enough of a risk to sign cheap...a one year FA deal to stay in MN. If they can find a decent/cheap FA infielder, they might sign him, but I don't see one so they stick with Carroll. Otherwise they stay pretty aggressive in having a very inexperienced team, but with just enough veteran-y goodness. Hicks is a stretch, but Revere & Parmalee won't be good enough to keep him down. Sano, Rosario, Michael, & Morales are all in the high minors for extra depth, so the young guys all better be on their toes. The team has enough payroll flexibility to add players during the season if needed. The rotation isn't great but good enough to compete, the bullpen is solid, the defense is improved, but the offense will depend on the rookies not stinking.

[YourHouseIsMyHouse]

SP

Gibson

Diamond

Hendriks

Bromberg

Free Agent/Walters

 

RP

Burnett

Slama

Guerra

Oliveros

Robertson

Duensing

Perkins(CL)

 

Line Up

CF - Revere

C - Mauer

RF - Sano

1B - Morneau

LF - Willingham

DH - Free Agent

2B - Free Agent/Rosario

SS - Dozier

3B - Romero/Florimon/Valencia (Yuck)

 

Bench

OF/INF - Plouffe

OF - Arcia/Benson

C - Chris Hermann

INF - Chris Parmelee

[THE DFC]

SP - FA (Shiels/Gruenke), Appel, Gibson, Hendriks, Bromberg

RP - Perkins, Duensing, Waldrop, Slama, Gutierrez, Oliveros, Guerra

 

DH - Sano

C - Doumit

1B - Mauer

2B - Rosario

SS - Dozier

3B - FA/Sano/Dozier (depending on Michael/Santana)

LF - Willingham

CF - Hicks

RF - Arcia

[Bark's Lounge]

Thank god there is at least 2 people who can mix their Twins obsession with a sense of humour. On a serious note, Bark, I like the inclusion of Rosario at 2nd although in 2014 I'm torn between him and Florimon, Rosario 2015, other than that, aces.

I agree with you Twins North on Rosario being a more likely candidate for 2B in 2015 rather than 2014. His inclusion was more or less wishful thinking on my part - but you never know. On another note: I've got to get my hands on some Poutine... it sounds like a heart attack ready to happen, but intriguingly delicious!

[Guest USAFChief]

With egg on my face and an admitted lack of 2012 knowledge I have to ask.

 

How do you quote multiple quotes in one reply? I hit "reply with quote" and it neatly puts it in a box for me. Adding another quote to the original quote is beyond my talents.

 

That skill could come in handy.

 

Yes... Everyone can make fun of me for not knowing this but teach me while making fun of me.

 

You don't know how to do that?? You imbicile you!!1!

 

See the little icon to the right of Reply With Quote? That's the multi-quote button, hit that to quote the first message you want to appear, for the next quote you want to appear just hit the "Reply with Quote" button on that message and it will appear under the first message and so on, voila.

 

I knew that (he types with an embarrassed, sheepish look on his face.)

 

Edit: Holy $h!t! It works!

[Rosterman]

Free agents and trades are such a crapshoot between now and then. Pretty much have to look at who will be around and potenitally in the majors of AAA in 2014. And hope the Twins can patch their weaknesses.

 

Interesting. Yes, Hollimon would be the backup infielder today if he was on the 40-man and the Twins weren't keeping Plouffe around. I would say Florimon would be he backup in two years, but he'll be aging, same age as Plouffe today, only much cheaper.

 

I doubt Butera will be anywhere in the picture. He'll be making a million via arbitration...not worth it.

 

Oh, I forgot, Tyler Robertson is supposed to be in the future picture, I guess.

 

It's so tough rebuilding with what little the Twins do have. If you cast 2014 too young, then hey all hit arbitration and free agency at young ages and you lose them. If you spred them out (which you should be able to do normally) you lose a Pavano and replace with a Gibson, you lose a Baker and replace with a Wimmers. You lose Blackburn and replace with Wayne Hattaway.

[Riverbrian]

See the little icon to the right of Reply With Quote? That's the multi-quote button, hit that to quote the first message you want to appear, for the next quote you want to appear just hit the "Reply with Quote" button on that message and it will appear under the first message and so on, voila.

 

Hey North... Hey man Thanks... Now I can pick out the highlights of the scenery. My hands are in the river.

 

You don't know how to do that?? You imbicile you!!1!

 

 

 

I knew that (he types with an embarrassed, sheepish look on his face.)

 

Edit: Holy $h!t! It works!

 

Chief... About a 2 on the making fun of me meter but I do appreciate the effort. I gotta ask the significance of the 1 in the middle of the exclamation points. The only time I can think its appropriate for an exclamation after 1... Would be a real important countdown of sorts or a very surprising temperature reading in Tucson.

 

Look at us now... Multi quote capable. I gotta move to another thread... Ignore the topic and do this Multi quote thing somewhere else now. North is going to regret teaching us this.

[Dilligaf69]

Geez! i have no idea...too far away! but interesting nonetheless.

[stringer bell]

I actually was thinking about this before the thread was started. Here is what I came up with. C-Mauer 1B-Parmelee 2B-Casilla SS-Dozier 3B-Plouffe LF-Herrman CF-Revere RF-Benson DH-Willingham Bench: Towles ©, Florimon (UTIL), Michael Cuddyer (1B-RF), Stephen Lombardozzi. Pitchers: Gibson, Duensing, Wimmers, Diamond, Wandy Rodriguez Perkins, Guerra, Oliveros, Gutierrez, Burnett, Random Lefty, Hendriks

[PMKI]

I actually was thinking about this before the thread was started. Here is what I came up with. C-Mauer 1B-Parmelee 2B-Casilla SS-Dozier 3B-Plouffe LF-Herrman CF-Revere RF-Benson DH-Willingham Bench: Towles ©, Florimon (UTIL), Michael Cuddyer (1B-RF), Stephen Lombardozzi. Pitchers: Gibson, Duensing, Wimmers, Diamond, Wandy Rodriguez Perkins, Guerra, Oliveros, Gutierrez, Burnett, Random Lefty, Hendriks

Just wondering how you see us getting Lombardozzi. I am assuming its in a Span trade?

[Alex]

No Sano in 2014? Probably a bit early.

 

Dozier may well be starting for this team in 2014, but I don't think that will be a great sign if he is, though we don't have many SS or 2B options that look promising either. Yuck, the future of this team is even depressing.

[Shane Wahl]

(Doing this for 2014 makes me so much happier than for 2013, because Nick Blackburn won't be involved)

 

Ryan Dempster (in last year/option year of deal signed this offseason)

Kyle Gibson

Liam Hendriks

Scott Diamond

Bromberg/Wimmers/Hermsen

 

Andrew Albers, Lester Oliveros, Deolis Guerra, Brian Duensing, Matthew Hauser, Carlos Gutierrez, Glen Perkins (closer) (sub in Tyler Robertson, Kyle Waldrop and maybe a few others here for a few of these maybe)

 

Sano and Rosario are not going to be on the opening day roster in 2014. June 2014 is the earliest.

 

Anyway:

 

1. Denard Span, LF

2. Joe Mauer, C/1B/DH

3. Josh Willingham/Oswaldo Arcia DH (I don't mean a platoon)

4. Joe Benson, CF

5. Aaron Hicks, RF (though he could bat second)

6. Chris Parmelee 1B

7. Trevor Plouffe 3B/some FA RH signing 3B

8. Brian Dozier SS/2B

9. Danny Santana SS/2B or Pedro Florimon SS/2B

 

Bench: Chris Herrmann (actually gets a lot of starts), Santana/Florimon, 4th/5th OF a la Repko-Mastro or some third catcher like Lehmann, someone else like Colabello (!) or Romero (!) or hopefully a FA signing a la Thome.

 

Likely trading Morneau at the deadline in 2013, Revere at the deadline in 2013, and Willingham before 2014 starts or at the 2013 deadline.

 

I don't remember seeing Arcia in anyone's plans above. He is getting to the majors before Sano and Rosario, period. Could be trade-bait too. Also could merely be a DH platoon with a Plouffe type at RF/DH if he can't hit lefties.

 

I am guessing Angel Morales is the OF prospect to go, but hopefully after he starts playing better.

 

2012 pitcher taken at #2 will be in a position to help at some point in 2014, but not out of ST.