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Twins Minor League Transactions (2023-24)
jorgenswest replied to Seth Stohs's topic in Twins Minor League Talk
Milwaukee made a wise decision. His BABiP was .203. His walk rate was 13.5%. That BABiP wasn’t going to continue and his walk rate would not work. The ERA looked good but virtually worthless projecting forward in season. I wonder what happened to the strike outs last year. The had been dropping slightly (28.1, 27.9 and then 27.2% in 2022). Last year in AAA it was 15.2% and 9.9% in the majors. The arm with the 27-28% has some promise as long as the walk rate can drop considerably. -
Farmer fits better on the Twins better than anywhere else because he complements Julien so well. Farmer has always hit left handed pitching well above league average. He is a league average defender. Would you start Julien over Farmer against a left handed starter in order to give Julien at bats against left handed pitching? It can’t just be an occasional start if they are going to move the needle with his ability to hit lefties. Julien isn’t on the short side of the platoon. He has significant value to any team leading off against right handed pitching. He doesn’t ever need to hit left handed pitching well to be really valuable. If he can get his defense to league average then they can probably afford to playing him more against lefties. Until then he really needs to sit against lefties. That’s OK. There aren’t that many left handed starters and they are often out of the game by the 6th inning.
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I think DeSclafini is the only starter they would move short of being blown away. They don’t have the depth to trade someone in their starting rotation. I don’t think a Polanco plus prospects package gets them to move one anyone from their rotation. Do the Twins want Gilbert? Offer Royce Lewis. Do they want Miller or Woo? Offer Brooks Lee and hope the Mariners believe in his readiness. I wouldn’t do those deals.
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When We Could See Top Twins Prospects Debut in 2024
jorgenswest replied to Ted Schwerzler 's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
The Rice myth is getting tiresome. I believe the roots of the reputation for pitchers and injuries starts with the 2004 draft. Rice had 3 pitchers drafted in the first 8 picks and all 3 suffered arm injuries early in their professional careers. Their manager, Wayne Graham, was also Canterino’s manager in 2 of his 3 seasons. There have been several other pitchers drafted in the first 50 picks in Graham’s era. Ken Baugh missed his second professional season due to injury. Jon Skaggs was injured after 1 professional start and then missed his second season. Neither made it to the majors. Matt Anderson was the first overall pick in 1997. He did suffer an injury in 2002. He tore a muscle in his arm pit and some connect it to the pregame octopus throwing promotion that he had participated in with another Detroit pitcher. He never pitched well again. It seems unlikely that Rice is to blame here. I don’t see injuries to Joe Savery, David Aardsma, Norm Charlton or Bryan Price early in their professional careers either. The Twins have drafted two other of his Rice pitchers. J.T. Chargois suffered injuries. Tyler Duffey was healthy. Both were relievers while at Rice. Pitcher injuries happen. It seems unlikely that the workload at Rice is the cause and I wouldn’t blame the Twins for drafting a good arm that happened to pitch for Rice. I do think they should avoid having their pitchers participate in octopus throwing promotions.- 118 replies
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When We Could See Top Twins Prospects Debut in 2024
jorgenswest replied to Ted Schwerzler 's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
I would have exchanged Camargo and Severino. Any catcher injury and he is starting at least twice a week. As for Gordon, it is hard to put out of our minds the struggle in centerfield when he was thrown into the position at the major league level. In 2022 he had a O RAA and was more than adequate. Martin may not be as ready. He also had a -1 RAA at 2B. He is a utility player. ZIPS had an OPS projection of .721 for Gordon.- 118 replies
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Mariners Still Looking For Additional Infielder
jorgenswest replied to Brock Beauchamp's topic in Minnesota Twins Talk
Kyle Farmer for Anthony DeSclafini An underwhelming trade but doesn’t it give both teams more depth for a position where their roster is thin? -
ZIPs is more useful than using 2023 statistics but that is a pretty low bar.
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The risk in Polanco or Farmer is that they will decline in performance due to age or injury and the Twins will not be willing to cut loose their salary. Farmer is a risk for decline. His numbers look good last year they almost look like he improved over his previous year. It is the illusion of his use. In 2022 he was a regular and he faced a greater ratio of right handed pitching. In 2023 when the ratio shifted it appeared he improved when in reality the numbers had an increased ratio of at bats against lefties as compared to 2022. Last year his OPS+ against right handed pitching actually dropped from 92 to 87. I suppose that level would be OK if he were a plus defensively at SS but his DRS, RAA and UZR all are on the wrong side of zero over the last two years. There really isn’t space for more decline from his role of short side platoon utility player. He turns 34 in August and decline should be expected. Polanco is a risk for injury. They do have some depth so if they handle the injury by putting him on IL. They also might handle it by having him work through the injury on the roster. I think the bigger risk with injury is not the lost playing time but the poor play while working through the injury on the roster. If the Twins don’t trade either I would expect both to be on the roster all year no matter how they perform. The Twins will not let go of either salary quickly. If Farmer declines while Martin or Lee are showing readiness in AAA, I will be joining @Riverbrian in his recalling of Logan Morrison and the Twins unwillingness to cut him loose and provide an opportunity for younger players.
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Am I crazy? SP Trade proposal.
jorgenswest replied to Joe A. Preusser's topic in Minnesota Twins Talk
I picked 18 because he was 18 but expand it from 16-20 over those 5 year and you will find some impactful players. It might be about a 1 in 5 chance. There are a lot of failed prospects and mediocre players in that group. Luzardo is already an impactful player. Three years of control of a impactful player should be very expensive and the Marlins should look for the single best player they can get. They can do better than a package headlined by Lee. -
Mullins got his first opportunity at age 23. He was up and down for three years until he ran out of options. It was his fourth opportunity at age 26 when he had run out of options before he posted a season with a wRC+ above 100. Weren’t the Orioles quite patient with his at best poor to average performance while waiting to be rewarded that 4th major league season? As for Altuve the guy crushed it in high A (169 wRC+) and AA (153 wRC+) to earn his opportunity half way into his AA season.
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Am I crazy? SP Trade proposal.
jorgenswest replied to Joe A. Preusser's topic in Minnesota Twins Talk
I think the headline of the deal is critical and Pasquantino is a better headliner than Lee right now.. Brooks Lee was ranked 18th by MLB last year. We should be hopeful but here is some perspective. Look at the number 18s in the 5 year span 2014-2018. By now these players will have exhausted rule 5 status and options. Only one played in the majors last year. 2014 Alberto Almora (3.3) 2015 Blake Swihart (-0.3) 2016 Nomar Mazara (1.2) 2017 Lewis Brinson (-3.6) 2018 Alex Reyes (2.7) Reyes is the only one left playing. It is encouraging to have a number 18 prospect but most of these guys don’t have an impactful career. Until Lee shows solid success in the majors or destroys AAA pitching, Pasquantino is a better bet to have an impactful career. Lee’s wRC+ of 120 in AA and 78 in AAA don’t suggest an impactful career. -
For perspective I go back 10 years and look at the top 10. By now the players will have entered rule 5 status and exhausted options. The Yankees in 2014 paid a huge tax to go way beyond their bonus pool. The amount they paid in bonus and tax was close to the Astros entire major league payroll for that year. The top 10 from MLB Underwhelming would be an overstatement. Huascar Ynoa, Luis Gil and Brusdar Graterol were among Twins international signings that year.
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Am I crazy? SP Trade proposal.
jorgenswest replied to Joe A. Preusser's topic in Minnesota Twins Talk
I think the Marlins will get a better headliner in the deal. Pasquantino is better than any of the 4 the proposed Twins offer. The Twins need to do better than Lee. -
Aren’t Miller and Woo part of the Mariners projected 5 man rotation? Wouldn’t Hancock be the 6th starter in AAA? Ray might be ready later in the summer. I don’t see their pitching depth. Last year 13 pitchers started a game for them. I don’t see them trading from those top 6 to get Polanco or Kepler. Maybe I am missing someone.
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They need someone. He was reasonably effective in a true long relief role after starting May 10 last year when his ERA was 7.96. I wouldn’t dismiss it. If they can’t find a better solution in trade, Manaea would be worth consideration.
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Ranking Twins Players By Regression Risk in 2024
jorgenswest replied to Cody Christie's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
Of your examples, I think Jeffers best fits regression. I also expect regression to the mean from Gordon.- 15 replies
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Would You Double Down on Donny Barrels?
jorgenswest replied to Cody Pirkl's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
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I think the outfield defense as a whole is better with him in RF and has been for a while. A few years ago Nick Gordon was playing CF at an adequate level with 0 RAA. Kepler wouldn’t be that much better but he would be much better than the alternative in RF. Overall the team defense is better with him in RF.
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The Pirates received 5 players for Musgrove including David Bednar and Endy Rodriguez. It is just hard to believe that the Twins had an opportunity to get him for Larnach and failed to do so.
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I read it several times and don’t see any information other than a writier suggesting a deal much like the many deals we see on the Twins Daily site. I don’t see a report of the Pirates even being engaged in talk with the Twins much less making an offer. This is the same author that suggested Priester for Kepler and Polanco. Neither was news. Is it possible that the Larnach/Musgrove was never real?
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The Dylan Bundys of the World
jorgenswest replied to Greggory Masterson's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
Bundy received Cy Young award votes in 2020. He was a reasonable risk. He had a good April over 4 starts but by his 10th start in early June it should have been clear that it was time to move on. The mistake wasn’t signing him. It was not being willing to let him go.- 19 replies
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I will acknowledge that there isn’t a linear correlation between strike outs and runs scored. There does seem to be a benefit to balance. Sort the teams in the AL last year by strikeouts and then look to the average line. You will find the two teams that scored the most runs on each side of the average line. In the NL it was the second and third ranked teams surrounding the average strikeout line. Teams that strike out too often need more balls in play to move runners. Teams that don’t strike out and put balls in play too often don’t have the power to bring those runners in. A balanced line up or at least a line up that avoids the extremes seems conducive to scoring runs. The Twins disrupted that balance last year replacing Arraez with Gallo at first base. They did rebound in the second half but that coincided with less time for Gallo. Are they working this year to achieve better balance?
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I would do a Mahle type trade again given an opportunity this summer. The Santana trade was bad from the start. They didn’t get anyone that was the headline of the deal. We see those kinds of suggested deals often on this board where several Twins are offered for a single very good player. A bunch of 1-2 WAR players do not replace a 5+ WAR player. The Capps deal was a terrible trade. He had saves and ERA in his favor but the peripherals behind those suggested a mediocre pitcher.
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Is it also fair to say…? “If Twins Don’t Trade from Offensive Depth to Get Pitching Help, They'd Better Be Right”
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