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I would agree that trading Lopez would trigger a clear full sell off reload/rebuild approach. Trading Ryan less so if you keep Lopez. The main issue is that Lopez is the leader of the staff, and even with the young guys he is the type that would lead them. Now, depending on return it does not mean we cannot compete, but it really would be the young upstarts no one expected to compete type thing. Similar to Baltimore and KC a few years ago.

Larnach should 100% be non-tendered. He is average all around, does nothing elite, and we know who he is. Sure, has he had some stretch of above average offense, yes, but every guy can get on a hot streak from time to time. We have too many prospects that should be able to replace him for much cheaper. Even if they cannot, you can find average corner OF all the time.

Baseball is a business, and the fact that fans expect owners to be willing to lose money on it to me is crazy. The writer also talks about trading Glasnow and Meadows in same as Cole, but they were not similar type trades. Cole was traded because it was clear he would not resign and they wanted to get something in return outside a single draft pick. Glasnow and Meadows were traded in an effort to help win then as it win now move, that failed terrible. The pirates have been a terrible run organization for years, not just because the owner is trying to max out profits, but because they never seem to have a clear direction. They trade prospects for vets, but then trade vets for prospects. They have also failed at developing hitters for several years too.

No way will Twins sign either Bichette or Story. Bichette has mostly been All-star level SS and will demand some big bucks in FA. We will not fork that over when we have hopeful short stops in the wings. Story could be had for a shorter contract for less annual, but he still will be costly. My guess he will be looking for another 3 to 5 year deal, and at his age his defense could fall off the cliff at SS, as it already has dropped. He also has many history of injuries causing us to go for backups anyways.

Not that I have any say in manager, but I personally think someone that can adapt is important. Not someone that is all analytics or all anti analytics. I felt Rocco, and it may have been driven more by the FO, was almost all analytics in his decisions and made the game a math problem. If you are playing a purely probability driven game, it makes sense to always go with odds, but analytics in baseball are based on history, not predictive. The fact that there are other influences on outcomes always going by the odds based on history may not be the best decision in the moment. For example, the 3rd time through the line up stat. Yes, many pitchers do worse the 3rd time through, but there are times a guy is just dealing that day and appears to be unhittable. The hitters and missing, not hitting anything hard. Then we get to the 3rd time through and Rocco would pull the guy despite low pitch count nothing hit hard no walks because he was expecting everything to change. Maybe it would have, but sometimes you need to give the pitcher a shot if they are doing well.

If we cannot find an upgrade from Clemons on this roster, I am very worried for next year. Outside of a few very hot stretches he was terrible. Even with those hot stretches he was below average hitter. He will be 30 next year, there is no reason to expect he will be able to repeat even what he did overall, let alone his hot stretches. The FO better not say well we have him for 1st base so we are set there. To me, you non-tender him, sign him to minor league deal with spring invite, or he can walk. Nothing about him says he must get a roster spot next year.

One comment on the payroll stat, is that is a little loaded stat. The lowest 5 payrolls normally are low because the team has decided to do a full tear down rebuild and going with youth, who will always have a low payroll. The bottom 15, which the bottom 5 are in, so lets got with 6 through 15 has 4 in the playoffs, for 40% of that 10. They are in the come up type group or the hanging around group, or mid-markets that are at top of allowed payroll by owners, and they are competing, and a few games here or there made the difference. The top payrolls are expected to be competing, but it still takes more than their high payroll guys too. How often in history have you seen a single big name signing make all the difference for a team? Almost never. Do they have a big impact sometimes, but they still need a team around them. I am not saying going out and having top paid guys will not help a ton, but the state Gleeman shows is a bit loaded, because high paying teams will not spend on trash, and rebuilding teams will have a natural low payroll. Things shift very quickly for some.

In both Detroit in 2024 and Cleveland this year, it took collapses of the leading team for them to come back. Additionally, it was hot pitching for the most part. For the Cleveland this year, outside of 2 players their offense is average. Only Ramerize and Kwan had higher than a 2 bWAR. They had 1 good starting pitcher overall, Gavin Williams, but their pen was above average, and they won a lot of low scoring close games. The Twins starting pitching started to erode away, with having injuries, eventual ineffective starters and pens. Our offense was boom or bust normally and could not find way to get runs in when needed. Cleveland did better hitting in high leverage situations, than the Twins who were about the same. Twins offense was slightly better than Cleveland overall. If the Twins did not sell could they have made a push, maybe. Would the players that came in to replace those traded done better or worse, who knows, different situations. There is not much to clean from hot runs and huge collapses other than there is a reason they play 162.

This is a Buck call. He said no to being traded mid-season. It is possible he will change his mind during off-season when you have more time to plan and work out deals with teams and not just go by the quick decision. Reports are he intends to build his dream home back in GA, which makes it easier for him to go to different teams as his long term plans is return there either way. I am sure after this season his trade value is as high as it has been in years, and I am sure the Twins would love to cash in, go more with the youth movement they are doing. However, Buck holds all the cards, so it is up to him.

I personally wish it was all calls, but I get why they did it this way. Then you ease it into the game, and players need to think about when to use the challenge. The clear wrong calls will get challenged all the time, but the boarder ones will be a lot more of a question I expect the catcher or hitters will be instructed to hold off until big situations. Ones that would end an inning when runners are in scoring position, or ones that would have ended an inning when runners in scoring position, or clearly ending the game. You should not see a player challenge a 0-0 count call leading off an inning, unless it was way off. However, an 0-2 count with runner on 2nd or 3rd and 2 outs, later in game in close game, if a boarder line pitch called ball may be worth challenging, but not early in game. It will be fun to see it play out.

Simply to ease it into the game. Many players, and umpires were against it, and some fans. It will become full time in the future, but you need to ease it in.

I need to disagree about Fedko being the most ready to challenge for a spot next year. Personally, I think Jenkins will be top to challenge, as he can play any OF spot, has most upside. The only reason he will be held back is his injury history and that they may want to manage his service time for an extra year of control. Beyond that, I think Gonzales, on the list mentioned, has the next best shot to break camp, but I doubt that will happen. Cullpepper is next on my list as someone who has a shot, mainly because SS is thin position for us right now. Then I would put Fedko because he is older and AAA. The issue with him is he has no prospect status until this break out year. Maybe he has legit power, maybe he does not. I would not over react to his current season. We have seen it with many in his position late round or undrafted college kids that have some break out year in mid-20's and we clamor for him to get a shot. Only to see why they were held back. Kersey and McCusker are two recent names. There is a reason Fedko was never on a top prospect list, was drafted 12th round, just as the other guys similar in his position has lingered in minors with brief chances at bigs only to fail quickly. Is it possible he is an exception and comes out of no where and suddenly found a power stroke that was never there before? Sure, but it is also possible this is his peak. The best thing he has going is that his k to walk ratio is good for the power breakout he showed.

I would move Clemons to the not likely area, or the bubble. This was by far a career year for him. In addition he was super streaky, April he was unplayable and DFA to us. May he was crazy hot, then June he was unplayable. July he had a few hot stretches. August he was unplayable, and Sept he got on a couple of hot stretches again. Overall he is replacement level guy, and outside of a career year in power, in big spots I would agree, he was an end of the lineup hope he can do something bat. He can be replaced by Martin, or others.

I am sure he was worried about pulling his hamstring again early when he came back. I think that affected not only his running but his hitting as well. If you do not have your legs hitting you have nothing.

It is not just about the Twins bringing him back, but they have to deal with the players union for intentionally not playing a guy. It was not a service time issue, but a numbers issue. If the Twins do not play a healthy player the union would have a fit, because Lopez will be looking for another contract and if they tried to use well look at how low your numbers were in 2025 season, they union would be like well you did not play him. Also, not sure if there are incentives in his contract he could have tried to reach.

What it does is make him relevant going forward either on our team or as part of a trade. He would not net anything huge, but being he has shown he can get on base and has some speed. Some teams will value this. The Twins have so many options at the corner OF, and 2nd. I personally expect he will stay with Twins and they will DFA/non-tender Clemons. They play the same position, basically utility guy, but Clemons showed some power from time to time, but outside of that he was negative hitter.

In terms of the pitchers taken in the trade deadline, you need to give them time in the organization. This winter and spring will be a big sign on if they can adjust. We are hoping that when the Twins coaches have time to work with them they will make that extra step.

I know the article was about Rocco and his ranking, but I want to comment on Gardy. He was overrated as a manager and should have been fired sooner than he was. He was not bad when he first came into the league, but was way to old school and the game passed him by very quickly. I feel he was the "by the book" guy and just about anyone could have filled in for him and had similar success. I say this for a few reasons. First, in playoff series he clearly had no way to manage a single game, he never wanted to "over manage" like some get accused of these days. Sure, there are times managers these days go too extreme the other way, like Rocco might, but Gardy would be overly stubborn the other way. He also contradicted himself on decisions plenty of times. A few examples, in a playoff game, where the Twins had a chance to go up 2-0 against the Yankees in the 2004 series. He decided to start rookie Jason Kubel at DH, which I liked Kubel, nothing wrong with playing him. However, he looked way over matched all game. We tied it up in the 8th against Rivera and with 1 out runners on 2nd and 3rd, just needing a fly ball to tie it Kubel came up. We had Lew Ford on the bench, who had his best year of his career by far that year. Gardy stayed with Kubel because of the lefty matchup, but Rivera has better career numbers against lefties. However, by the book Gardy says you have a lefty hit against righty when you can despite the long know career reverse splits for Rivera. Kubel strikes out and then Guzman grounds out ending the inning. Going forward in game, Nathan pitches the 10th, 11th, and rookie Jesse Crain, who was having a good rookie year was warmed up to come in if game was tied. But we took the lead, and Gardy left Nathan for a 3rd inning, something he had not done all year. Nathan was cooked and gave up the lead after walking 2 of the first 3 batters and ground rule double after that. Then new pitcher gave up sac fly and we lose game. After the game, Gardy says after they took the lead he was not going to put the rookie in that situation trying to get a save, but he had no problem leaving a rookie in trying to hit off the best closer of all time with a reverse split issue, when all you needed was to put ball in play. There are many other examples I could give, like when he would bring in his "8th inning guy" to pitch when the hitter he was facing had a history of destroying him, only to have it happen again, and he would say well he is our 8th inning guy. He would never look at advanced stats or think outside the box. He was fine getting wins in regular season, but I feel he did not do anything special, he was just the guy there, and he would never think of how can he do better and just say well lets play by the book. Maybe, playing by the book was the right move at the time, but when he would need to make hard choices in short series he would cave.

This is how the game always goes for players. Hitters come up and if they crush right off the bat pitchers start to try something new. Then the hitter needs to adjust to them, and so on it goes. We have seen it with a lot of hitters in their rookie years crush, only to struggle the second year, it is because pitchers and scouts had all winter to figure out how to pitch to them. Lets hope he makes the adjustments.

The question of are they hurt or injured for baseball sometimes is a very fine line. In baseball, being hurt can affect you so much more than being injured. Little pains here or there that you can "play through" really can affect your output so much more. When fractions of inches on your swing can mean the difference between a hit and an out, little things can add up to big issues. I am not saying injuries had a huge impact, but when a couple of your guys you are really counting on have soft tissue issues can have long term effects.

I wrote that this offseason will be telling on what the FO thinks of Martin and not being a power hitter going forward. For years the FO clearly sought the 3 true outcome guys and wanted more pop from everyone, if they could get it. It does seem like they may be looking for some better base running guys that can steal and get on base. I have always been one you need a balanced line up, not to many pure HR guys and not too many just .OBP guys.

I would agree that Wallner has more value between him and Larnach, but neither will have much value in my opinion. Waller has the 'if he only could' thought. If he only could not get overpowered by high fastballs, or if he only could not look lost against lefties, which this year he actually has, but he has been worse generally against righties. I could see them looking to trade Wallner and have him get on some hot streaks and reading all the comments on here about how terrible it was to let him go, see Spencer Steer and CES comments from past. However, I think at this point Wallner will not develop more than he has, he is 27 now, will be 28 all of next season. This means he is already on the wrong side of the prime years. Yes, someone who has his power can have a longer career, but he has shown that he is like Plouffe. He can hit HR when they do not really matter, when pitchers are not really trying to get him out. Put guys on base and the pitcher is more dialed in to get him out and he fails. However, when you have back end pen guys, or position players throwing to him he crushes like it is a slow pitch softball game. Personally, I think it is time to move on from both guys, let Jenkins, E-Rod, Gonzales and others get their shots.

Why LF, and not RF? He has a cannon still, I think shifting to RF he would have more value there.

SWR is the only one on that list that I keep on 40 man over the offseason, unless there are other moves that get made. Miranda has fallen way off depth, Julien has fallen off and not shown any growth, Outman is just a no. Clemons showed a flash, but outside of that he is a no. He is the only one worth maybe keeping.

2nd base is always one of those interesting positions. When you have a great defender there it is nice, but normally the 2nd basemen are the guys that could not cut it at SS and lack the arm for third. However, rarely do you have a guy that is elite hitter and defender, at any position, but how often will you have an elite defender at 2nd, that can hit well too. Most of the time, if they are elite at 2nd they can defend SS. Then you need to decide how much value does an elite 2nd baseman add versus having an average to below average, which is subjective because if all the teams have poor defenders at 2nd are they below average? 2nd base has become similar to how 1st was looked at before, you can try to hide the weak defenders there if they have a bat.