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Rosario has gotten passed by on the prospect list by many. He will not likely make MLB as a Twin. My guess they either leave him off 40 man this year or try to trade him. He has been good, but he plays corner OF so he is easy to replace.
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I am all for offering a contract that locks him up for 7 to 8 years at a locked number. You have risk of injuries or poor development, but he seems like the type it may be worth it. You can have him break camp and not play the service time thing, which I know can sour players against teams when they do that. If you do it now, you can save a little. However, on the flip side the player may decide to bet on himself long term too and say no. It is hard for a player to turn that kind of money, because you are locked in no matter what. Sure, you may leave 10 to 20 mil on the table at the back end, but so much can go wrong in 5 to 6 years. We all thought Lewis was the truth and was going to be MVP level years going forward. Hopefully he bounces back, but it is possible he never does. We say other young guys on other teams take off like a rocket only to have years later regress to average or below average.
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I see no point in comparing Skenes pick to the other 4, but the other 4 will long be compared as they are all OF. 2 college 2 HS. Personally, I like HS bats over college bats for upside, and college arms over HS. I think Clark and Jenkins will be compared more to each other as both HS and Langford and Crews will be compared. So far, it looks like the last taken, making the Twins pick easy, might be the best. Still too early on all 4, but Crews, the first taken, is looking like the worst. Clark is moving slowly and nothing to say bust yet, but nothing to say top future star either. Langford has been good, but if he is just corner guy with average just above average offense and average defense his value will be much lower.
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Whom Could Minnesota Twins Trade This Offseason?
Trov replied to Cody Christie's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
The only way you trade both Ryan and Lopez is if you decide next year is just about development. I do not think that is the path the team wants too go. We may have starter depth of possible guys, but no one has ran with their chances this year. I doubt either are traded in off-season and either or both could be traded at deadline, assuming health. Both would still net a good return at that point. Jeffers to me is most likely to be traded, unless the team has no plan at catcher. He would be the type of guy that if a team needed an offensive catcher away from getting them over the hump teams could overpay. Wallner, is interesting because he has power will be a good platoon fit for teams. He is the type that could take off in power, or he could be Joey Gallo and take off in strike outs.- 46 replies
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The Pohlads May Still Be Planning to Sell the Twins
Trov replied to Cody Christie's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
This article makes sense, with the broadcasting contracts up in the air, and CBA expected to be a big issue, not many people would want to drop the kind of money it would take to buy the Twins. I have a feeling how both of those situations work out will really reflect the value of a team. -
I do not see Baltimore trading him at the low end of his value. If Baltimore is doing a sell off maybe they would just try to get something, but as pointed out if he can regain is prior offense he is extremely valuable. We trade for him hoping that, and Baltimore would sell him hoping he does, or expecting he would not.
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BREAKING: Twins Promoting Top Prospect Walker Jenkins to AAA
Trov replied to Jamie Cameron's topic in Twins Minor League Talk
Cleary due to his lost time early in season they want to get him more at-bats. No other real reason to call him up to AAA this late in year outside of a few more games due to AAA playing a few more games. I bet he is early call up next year to give 1 more year of control, unless they do the MLB deal doing 7 year deal then he will break camp. -
I think his next step will be to have a better plan at the plate when he goes up there. Where he seems to struggle the most is when he looks like he has no plan at all and he takes half swings at pitches on the edges or out of the zone. I think this year he was trying to get his swing right again, now he just needs to have a better plan up there. That is something I have been impressed with Keashal when I have seen him hit. He is less see ball hit ball, but has a real idea of what he is looking for a plan to execute it.
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Who is the star on the Brew Crew right now? Stars can for sure help, I would say Buck is a star, but also the biggest star in baseball the last decade has only made playoffs 1 time and lost first round. Having a good team is what wins not just having a star or two. I mean the Angels had most likely the two biggest stars in the game for several years, how did they do?
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At 17th round if he even sniffs the majors he was a success. He will not make a prospect list until end of next year if he just crushes all year and jumps up to AAA quickly.
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Who are you taking off the 40 man to put him on it? He is not on it now, so "keeping" him on it not a question but is he worth putting on it. We either need to 60 day IL someone or DFA someone to give him a shot. As great as his AA time was he did what he does and regressed at next level. St. Paul is where he should have been crushing as much if not more. He did not fall apart, but I was hoping he would run away with a possible 1st base job and have a few good years. My guess Twins will leave him off 40 man and if a team wants to take him in rule 5 go for it. He may actually be a minor league FA next year not sure.
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I doubt there was much offers for Stewart. Yes, he had some good innings with us, he had some bad ones, but overall he spent more time in the trainer room than in the pen. Fans here overvalued him due to his what if he stays healthy upside he showed for us. His track record was that he never will stay healthy. Any team that traded for him was not going to give a legit prospect, or their FO would be attacked by fans like ours was for the Dyson trade. Keep in mind we really did not give up much in that deal either but people act like we gave up a huge prospect.
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Pretty sure the trade was more about Rojas not Roden. The article seems to imply that it was Varland for Roden, but it was more like Varland for Rojas and Roden for France.
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These are all very SSS and the players that are not rentals will be measured what they do next year or years to come. For the most part only a few of the players we got in return are expected to help us out, most are just depth guys at best.
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That is kind of my point, that they have no big bashers top guys that earn the mega deals, but they have a lineup of slightly above average guys, and getting the most out of guys like Vaughn who was doing terrible until they took him.
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I think one of the main thing to take from the trades mentioned is they were proven guys that were about to get expensive and they got rid of 2 very good pen guys and a very good to great starter. Our FO made a trade of a few very good pen guys, one with a lot of control still, and fans are super upset. If we trade Ryan or Lopez this offseason fans will be more upset. However, what Brew Crew this year, and Rays in the past have shown is not investing big in single players can actually help if you can flip those guys for more prospects that you hope a few will work out and raise the floor of our team. For example, we are hoping huge things on Jenkins right now, but he could become not very good, we see it happen all the time for top prospects. If we have no other options down the road we get a huge set back. Fans were upset when we kept drafting SS, well you need plenty of options. I think the Twins should adopt more of the type of strategy from the Brew Crew too, Have guys that can get on base, run the bases, and not just look to go yard 1-9.
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Bringing people to invest alone will be terrible for fans. No one will invest in a team and willing to just break even with hopes of a payoff at the end. They are going to try to scrape by to see a return on their investment.
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Yes, they went on a 11 game win streak to jump to top team in the league, and we even went on a 12 game win streak early in the year. However, they are at 75 wins, 5 above the next best teams. When I think of the Brewers there are not too many names that come to mind. When you look they do not have a single player in top 10 in bWAR. Even when broken down by position players or pitchers they still do not. They are not a crazy good defensive team. I looked and they have one starting pitcher that is pitching well, but his FIP is still a 3.73. Their bullpen is doing well overall so that must be a big reason. Isaac Collins, by OPS+ has been their best hitter this year, you know that 27 year old rookie former 9th round pick that no one heard of outside the Brewers organization. Yelich is next on the list and leading the team in HR. Overall the players are just slightly above average hitters most around 110 to 120 OPS+. Andrew Vaughn since coming to Brewers has gone off in 27 games, but before he got there he was terrible for the Sox. So it begs the question how are they doing it? What really seems to jump out to me is that many of their players are having above average seasons for them. They have a balanced line up and no huge holes. They are getting production they were not expecting.
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For those who do not know, the 5 tools are Hit, Power, Run, Arm, Field. They are the areas that scouts will give players grades to determine how well they expect a player to eventually become. However, not all 5 tools are, or really should, be weighted equally in my opinion. I would rank Arm the lowest. If a guy is great at many other things but has a poor arm you can put him in areas to do well, like LF, 2nd, or 1st. 4th I would go Run, it can be helpful on both sides and for many positions, but just because you are fast will not mean you can get on base or actually field a ball. There is a reason track stars do not convert to baseball. 3rd I would put Power, I know some may disagree, but when I am thinking of important tools I do not care if you have light tower power if you ability to make contact is almost 0 and you cannot play a position well on defense. The 1 and 2 I would say may depend more on which position you are grading, but for overall I put Field in 2nd. Having good defense is important, as if you cannot get off the field to hit you will never win. Of course there are more important fielding positions but having good defenders all around is a good thing. Hit to me is the number 1 tool. It is said hitting a baseball is one of the hardest things to do in sports, even the best only get hits 3 out 10 times generally. This means if you can find guys that can do it well that is very important. Hits can be strung together, it may not be the preferred method of scoring, and I am not saying throwing a team of no HR high single hitting players is the correct way to form a team, but power can be learned much more than making solid contact can. I am not saying that any of the tools should be ignored, and if the hit tool cannot overcome low other tools that is an issue as well.
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A Way-Too-Early Look at the 2026 Minnesota Twins Roster
Trov replied to Eric Blonigen's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
I see no reason Larnach is on this team next year. He should be traded for international signing money or DFA. We have too many guys that can do what he does, younger and slightly cheaper.- 64 replies
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It will be interesting to see out of the 4 OF taken in that draft, all touted as 1-1 in their own drafts will pan out with Jenkins. We got the left overs, but possible we got the best of the best. Crews the first OF taken has been the worst so far. Making majors but playing below replacement. Clark, the first HS taken has done fine, but compared to Jenkins, Clark is not as productive. Langford, the pick right before Jenkins is having best MLB careers so far, bWAR 7.1 in his 1.5 season so far. He could grow more power, 16 HR last season and 16 so far this season, but Jenkins sure looks like he could leap them all. That would be amazing for us.
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I expect the FO of have both start in AAA but both be a quick call up, unless they want to push for that extra pick, but my guess they would rather have the extra year of control. Both will hopefully help the MLB team next year though.
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I personally find the narrative that he is a reason the young guys were doing poorly. He may have had a different leadership style, but that is on the team for not stepping in to help the younger guys and asking CC to do it. CC was not a bad signing at first, but he really fell off lately and was a risk long term. He should not be a villain though.
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Five Ways the Twins Can Salvage 2025
Trov replied to Eric Blonigen's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
Larnach is getting non-tendered/DFA this offseason. His time is up in this line up. He is a replacement level player at best. Waller offers better power, and most players offer better defense and most likely offense. Roden does not need to worry about out playing Larnach, he needs to worry about Jenkins, E-Rod, and Gonzalez leaping him. I could really see by this time next year, assuming Buck is healthy some combo of Buck, Jenkins, E-Rod, Gonzalez, or Wallner in the OF. This assumes health of them.

