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Good deep dive into some pitch level numbers. The statline of his debut in Detroit looks ok, but Woods Richardson almost got knocked out in the first inning in that game. You could say he settled down after that, but he also continued to give up a lot of hard contact. I will stay out of the prediction business, but I am confident predicting he won't be as good as Berrios.

No, it was in games, and no, I'm thinking it does not happen routinely. So yeah that would be my question, too. I had only read he tops out around 90. What happened to the velo? He might have a better chance to stick if he can get back into the mid to upper 90s

Kirilloff had multiple cortisone shots and a wrist surgery already, prior to the surgery in 2022. It's unfortunate for him, for sure, and for fans and the team. If I recall, one of those cortisone shots was while in the minors so that might have been a warning flag. But you could also say that it went from minor concern heading into 2021 to career-threatening concern in a blink of an eye. He might have had some trade value prior to August 2022, but at this point I would say not. I don't think the front office needs to come out point blank and say, "We will be lucky to get much from Kirilloff anymore, from this point going forward." That would be worst case, obviously, and I think that can be left unsaid. My own hope for Kirilloff is that he has some good stretches at DH. I don't know if catching baseballs affects his wrist or not or if keeping him out of the field would save some aggravation. You hate to ask a player to play through that pain.

Agree - I felt like it took Joe Mauer about a year and a half to become a really good first baseman. Also, thank you for becoming a Twins Daily caretaker!! If others haven't yet, click here

On the contrary, the Mets had no problem telling national reporters what their secondary offer to Correa was after the Mets rejected Correa's ankle scans. To translate this into Corporatespeak: "Dear Twins or other mystery team, here is our new offer to Correa: 6/157. Please beat it and release us from this negotiation." Transparent as a sunny day. The Twins not only beat that offer (for a player no other team really wanted that much), they beat it by 25%. It certainly is.

Very nice article. I was in the game thread the night Arraez broke up Dylan Cease’s no-hitter, and if I recall, there was some brief back-and-forth about whether Cease should pitch around Arraez and walk him, or earn the no-hitter by retiring Arraez for the last out. Arraez being Arraez, lofts a single to right center. This is a huge, huge loss, and it’s impact will be both seen in the standings and also felt in the hearts of fans who care more about the team than the cold calculation of player values generated by a computer program somewhere.

Seeing this pic in my feed of a young Burrow in a GOAT jersey tips the scales, and I’m pulling for the Bengals.

This gossip on Arraez's knees reminds me of the conversations we had about Bailey Ober's fastball. Or maybe it was Joe Ryan's. So Joe Ryan throws a 90-91mph fastball, but the Twins coaching staff can usually add a couple miles per hour to that, so really it's more like 92-93, but actually his deceptive delivery has the effect of adding a couple more mph, so really it's more like 94-95, and when he really wants to crank it up, he can add another couple mph on top of that. So basically it's more like a 96-97mph fastball than 90-91. If this thread goes long enough, we can get Arraez into knee replacement surgery and out of baseball in no time!

And then that last play lol

Reminds me of a Christian Ponder two minute drive. Some check downs, throwaways, and you’ve spent 45 seconds going 20 yards.

Yeah im really interested in seeing how Purdy comes out in the second half. Good overall, didn’t ask much of him, but a little bit of a mental error waiting to get rid of that last pass.

San Francisco leading Dallas 9-6 at half. Feels like the San Fran offense is just playing rope a dope. They might end up winning by three touchdowns, we will see. I’m really hoping we see a Maher FG attempt. Another missed extra point that he’s lucky was blocked.

What’s the Twins record on team-friendly extensions? How have those players done?

I mean, in another thread before the trade took place, you were telling me that trading away Arraez for Lopez wasn’t worth it, because Lopez was only a #3 and only had two more years of control. But now you are changing your tune. The minor leaguers Miami threw in are so far away that I find it hard to believe they tipped the scales for you that much.

“Terry Ryan, the former Twins general manager, used a 2-through-8 system to have his scouts evaluate players”

Close? I’d also rate Chicago’s rotation better, though I’d definitely give the edge to Minnesota’s bullpen with Hendricks going down. All the other teams in the Central also have a clear young Number #1 emerging, better than whoever the Twins number one is, although I think Skubal had a setback but Detroit isn’t going anywhere anyway. Pablo Lopez will help the Twins pitching staff, as long as his shoulder holds up. I don’t think anyone is arguing otherwise.

This feels like a one for one deal to me, too. Arraez was under control through the end of 2025 and I am wondering how much value you think Salas will provide to the Twins in that time?

Same

Another way to put it is that .314 is actually Arraez’s second worst season batting average. Are hits overrated now? Interesting. Well what about hits plus walks? Arraez is 14th in MLB in OBP since his debut in 2019. For context, the top of that list includes guys like Trout, Judge, Bryce Harper, Freddie Freeman, Juan Soto, who are the top five. Arraez is in the next tier with Goldschmidt, Betts, and other guys like that. Correa ranks 32nd in OBP since 2019. Granted, OBP is not the only hitting tool, and Correa is a better overall hitter than Arraez. But OBP is extremely important, it’s the “not making outs” tool that I remember people on this site used to make a big deal about. (until now)

You are not wrong. We had Dick & Bert calling games on TV locally for a long time. You only need to listen to the out of town broadcasters on those rare occasions when the Twins were on a national telecast to know that outsiders don’t know the teams and markets as well as the locals. So, same with the national baseball press. They are going to make up an opinion of the trade without knowing particulars and without caring how it turns out or being invested in its success or failure. If they turn out to be wrong, no one is going to come back and hold them to it or ask them what they did wrong. Because they have moved on to having an opinion on the next big thing they don’t really care about. Not that the local press is without their own faults…

I knew you’d come around :)

Having no opinion generates no mouse clicks, so nobody quotes the guy who says he will reserve judgment. Cheers to not knowing. 🍻

Well that’s Fangraphs, but MLB has Salas as a 45 player, which in other words, is just another half-decent minor league player. (I’m sure he’s a great kid personally.) Top prospect, no. I don’t know if the Twins Daily writers are doing their own checking around, or just using one source and taking that source at face value, or where they are getting all this enthusiasm. From Fangraphs, I guess. MLB has Brooks Lee as the 10th best shortstop prospect. https://www.mlb.com/prospects/ss/

Good comment. I consider myself both a hardcore fan and a casual fan… As a hardcore fan, no I do not actually understand this trade. It’s like robbing Peter to pay Paul. The pitching side gets better, but the hitting side gets worse. Potentially much worse. Guys like Arraez don’t suddenly lose their bat-to-ball skill. If someone is going to claim that Arraez’s knees are going to affect his performance, then that same someone should be consistent and admit that Lopez has a flaky shoulder himself, and that Salas’s stats look pretty ordinary, and the third guy they got is not old enough to shave yet. Some people here are really low on Lopez too. I don’t know; I guess I like him? but I will just say that I noticed that his shoulder problems have correlated fairly closely to his trade to Miami several years ago and subsequent increase in velocity. If the Twins want to keep Lopez dialed up at mid-90s and also keep him healthy, then maybe the philosophy of five innings and done will actually be a benefit to this particular guy. Less chance for wear and tear every fifth day if you pull him out after 5. The front office just signed Correa, overpaid for Correa. Why burn that goodwill? The front office made their lineup much better by signing Correa, then made it worse by trading Arraez. So no, as a hardcore fan, I don’t really get it on a rational level. Your second part about me also being a casual fan, however, is correct. All that said, I am glad there are people who like this trade. The Twins need you and Twinsdaily needs you! Stick around and talk about it!!