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  1. This was one of the most embarrassing games played by the Twins offensively that I have ever seen. Shawn Armstrong just off the 60 day DL, Criswell appeared in 7 big leagues games (over 3 years),Kelly rookie,Stephenson, twice traded and once claimed off waivers and was his 3 game as a Ray, Poche had allowed 29 base runners in 21 innings. Just want to say I agree with Wallner over Kepler, lets be clear the only thing that changes is we don't have to complain about Kepler, Wallner is not the answer to what ales the Twins. Something needs to happen to this team and I think the easiest thing to do is fire Rocco (I am not a fan of his, and don't believe he is the biggest or even one of the biggest problems this year) but something needs to be done to shake up this team and that is always the easiest. If the Twin's piss this season away after the last two, good luck with getting people to come to down to Target field next year.
  2. I highly doubt this FO thinks of it self as sellers after the last two years and they trades they made, and players they signed. Being just sellers would be them admitting failure and I don't see that happening. I could see them selling a bit and buying a bit. But after they last two years and no playoff wins, selling this year might be the kiss of death for them.
  3. It would have taken Lewis or Lee and another couple top prospects (if Miami would have even done that) and I highly doubt adding Kepler would have reduced the prospects required.
  4. meh? commodity? if that was true you would think would have had an abundance of them the last few years, and yet they haven't. Is he an elite pitcher? no, if he was it would have cost more than Arraez. But he has went out against the NYY, SD and Tampa for 6 plus innings and shut them down.
  5. Well if they don't win a playoff game this year, I sure hope it is.
  6. I will go out on a limb and say neither of these two ever make an all star game.
  7. Lopez has pitched 71.1 innings while not great, some have been, where would those innings come from without him? I agree with @gunnarthorthis was done because in 6 years here this FO didn't produce the promised pipeline. Going into this year Ryan was the only starter "developed" and that is if you believe they developed him and didn't just trade for a major league ready pitcher developed by the Rays. In the 7th year Ober and Varland look like two guys that were developed and added to the rotation. Still going into next year it would be Ryan, Varland and Ober, with the possibility of re-signing Gray, that is still one starter short with none in the pipeline to fill in. So while it sucks losing Arraez, it was him or Lewis that was going to need to be traded to fill the rotation.
  8. I hope so, he was up at 23 and that is fairly young for a catcher, he will probably competing with Perez, Rutschman, Heim, and Raleigh the next years.
  9. I didn't have high expectations for quite a few players, so when ranking players some might seem too high for others.
  10. What I learned was having a deep minor league system allows you to go get players you need. The Twins are having a tough time with the 40 man imagine having to figure it out with the some the guys they traded away.
  11. I really hope it is settled (fingers crossed), Lewis has all of 65 major league at bats so I don't want to get ahead of my self. I mean there is a chance he slumps, gets sent down and Miranda come up and plays awesome. But man wouldn't it be nice to actually have another position locked down.
  12. Didn't he last pitch for the Twins at age 27 in 2017, then left for Japan and spend how many years in the minors before making it back to the majors at age 33. I don't really think we can hold that against the Twins. Me personally I am not a fan of holding it against any team when older relief pitchers do well for other teams. At some point any and all teams have to give up on pitcher (by give up I mean not have them on the 40 man) and this allows them to move to another team when they might have a better chance to get succeed.
  13. I must have missed your list, since it is to critic others without having a list yourself. Those are my biggest disappointments, sure Jax, Lopez, Gordon or others may be higher for others but my expectations for those probably weren't as high as others.
  14. So he should be better going forward, doesn't take away from my opinion that he would be better than he has been so far. if you expectation for him was a run of 5.2 - 6 ER 5.2 - 4ER 6 - 2ER 4.2 - 5 ER and two other games with 5ER and 6ER That's great, Mine was his first 4 starts and 7th and 8th start.
  15. He has given up more earned runs in 12 starts and 71.1 innings than he did in 2021 in 20 starts and 102.2 innings. I still like him and think it was a good trade, but never did I expects an 4.54 ERA, he hasn't been terrible like Correa but I had pretty high expectations for him. Like what Ryan and Gray have been doing
  16. 1 and 1A are Correa and Buxton if you would have told me they would both have played 50 and has an OPS of .671 and .771 I wouldn't have believed you. 3. Pablo Lopez, in no scenario did I see him having an ERA above 4.5 4 and 4A Larnach and Miranda, didn't have high expectations for them but higher than they performed. Just about everybody else has played about how I would have expected (maybe Lopez deserves to be on this list next) or a tid bit above or below,, except Ryan he has exceeded all my expectations.
  17. AK, wasn't their pick, Larnach (Jury still out), Correa cost 30+ million a year, Lee is still in AA (I have high hopes for him) and Lewis finally looks like the real deal but sits at 53 big league at bats. So call me not so impressed that with 8+ plus first round picks and 300 million dollars got this much developed. They have done great with Varland and Ober, (Duran via Escobar), OK with Moran and Jax (Both like AK were already in organization) Win a playoff series or at least a game and all will be forgiven.
  18. There are not medical doctors for starting major league pitchers like quite of few are on this board are. That is a joke people!🤪
  19. First this isn't meant as a complaint about the length of stats, they have been way, way better this year, and for the most part haven't really questioned too many of when the starters have been pulled. But by count a starter has pitched into the 6th in 33/56 starts, the 7th in 12/56 starts and 8th in 1/56 starts. (not counting innings where they didn't get an out, I know there have been a few of them) So the pen has regularly been required to pitch 3+ innings, so lets not get carried about saying 8th and 9th inning, that is very rare.
  20. Maybe they can pitch tonight but they are basically done until Sunday and that seems like a bad plan.
  21. If Lopex or Stewart pitch today that would be 4 of the last 6 days, that seems excessive. De Leon would be 3 of 5 having pitched 43 pitches. IMO none should be used tonight and them being needed is probably a really, really bad thing. Since Jax, Moran, Pagan and Duran should be available for at least an inning a piece. I just don't agree with using Stewart and Lopez in a 8 - 0, or 8 -2 with guys on.
  22. So why bring him out for the 7th? It was already 7 - 0, why did he need to pitch more?Just because? or the plan was to get a big lead and Lopez come in a low stressful situation? The main reason I want starters to go longer is because that is less innings for a not so great bullpen and in this case they ended up using arguably two of their top 3 relief pitchers in a 8 - 0 game. I really am fine they pulled him, but wouldn't it make more sense to use Pagan or De Leon and back them ? since most would consider them in the bottom three relief pitchers and had only pitched once in the previous 4 days. Because it looks like today they have Pagan, Moran, and Jax available (with Duran at the end) Maybe the thought is Lopez goes deep today and it doesn't matter, but his last 4 starts have been 5.2, 6, 4.2, 6.1. Which tells me the odds are probably really good they are going to need three innings tonight, and maybe that is Moran and Jax with Duran finishing up, but if either of them two get in trouble, Pagan is probably next man up, and I never want to be in that situation.
  23. The problem with that logic it could have been 3 pitches and he is still at 90. But I do get the logic that if they bring him out for the 8th and he sitting at 100 or just under 100 after you almost have to let him try to get the shut out.
  24. Interesting, I believe last year he pitched 26 for the Twins, 21.1 for the Saints and 105 for Wichita. Not sure about that math, but it doesn't add up to 126. Edit - He is at 56 right now, so basically a third, so if he keeps this pace he would be at 168, seems like the natural progression. 21 - 103 22 - 152.1 23 - 168 Edit #2 - Of his 7 starts this was his second lowest pitch count. (I am not upset they took him out, just would have liked to see him pitch another inning)
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