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  1. TwinsDr2021
    Not so sure a 25 year old minor league player that requires a 40 man spot is going to return what we hope he does. But it does seem like an overpay for a relief pitcher unless that relief pitcher is cost friendly with some control able years.
  2. TwinsDr2021
    Going on this logic, it is almost impossible to lose a trade, when trading a free agent to be, even if you basically get nothing you can't lose because a 1/2 year or even 1 1/2 of the traded player will never look bad. (maybe that is true) IMO you have to take into consideration as part of the trade review if the team signs the player to an extension.
  3. TwinsDr2021
    Can't agree with this at all, unless of course you saying Wallner could be traded for a relief pitcher?
  4. TwinsDr2021
    What you are suggesting is this FO is so bad that it would pick up a 10 million contract for a with a 98, 91, 98 OPS+ the last three years? But you might be right since they signed Gallo for 11 million (87, 121, 80)
  5. TwinsDr2021
    as of 7/5/23, the Twins have lost the trade, Martin is getting old real fast and SWR is regressing. Toronto has gotten 343 innings, he hasn't been great but this year has been good. At the Time the trade looked crazy good and still has some time to look good, but I think most of that rests on the Shoulder of SWR, Martin turning into the Gordon/Castro role isn't enough.
  6. TwinsDr2021
    In 1962 Harmon had 666 at bats, Gallo has 222 and has K'd 89 times(89*3 =267) Lets not compare Joey Gallo to the guy that took 3 in the MVP voting. Also Gallo hasn't gotten hot for a week. the most hits he has had over a 7 day period is 6, He has twice hit 4 homers in a 7 day period.
  7. TwinsDr2021
    .191/.312/.484/.796 - 13 million .268/.370/.379/.748 - 2 million Not sure the first one is really all that successful.
  8. TwinsDr2021
    Well Rooker in May .198/.289/.327/.616 and June .191/.267/.353/.620 So I am thinking he would have fit in nice. Rooker being an all star is a Joke.
  9. TwinsDr2021
    Pablo Lopez just seen tonight lineup and said Kepler and Gallo both starting, f'n awsome!
  10. TwinsDr2021
    didn't you? I am confused Your quotes - "I have no idea how you can blame this FO for....." "they turned Arraez into Lopez and two minor league players. " "Also, we should maybe give them some credit for developing Arraez." They can't be blamed for a certain group, they get credit for trading an All Star and some credit for helping a player they inherited becoming an star. I understand you are done with this FO the same as me, I just don't get the rationale of who the front office gets to take credit for and who they don't.
  11. TwinsDr2021
    I stand behind my final statement. "IMO I think this puts Raya behind Berrios at least in his development, which isn't the end of the world. "
  12. TwinsDr2021
    Kepler has gotten worse, Polanco has been an All Star, Sano has been an all star, Polanco has been an all star, Garver won a SS, Not really blaming them for what happened with them, but I know none have really gotten better and they haven't been able to replace them. I will 100% give them credit for Arraez, as long as we also credit them for Gordon, Javier, Blankenorn, Diaz and all the other prospects that were generally ranked around where he was that failed or they missed had talent and went away. It just tough to give them credit for the guys they inherited that did well but a pass on guys they inherited that didn't do well, right?
  13. TwinsDr2021
    I think the real difference between the two is Berrios was given a real chance to pitch at age 20 Berrios was A+ and AA pitching 140 innings, Raya is in A+ and currently has 31 innings after only pitching 65 last year. Berrios pitched 103 as 19 year old. IMO I think this puts Raya behind Berrios at least in his development, which isn't the end of the world.
  14. TwinsDr2021
    Wait what, no way. j/k Jeffers would be considered a success I think, he debuted at age 23 and basically has been up since. The 40 man is so barren of guys they have drafted or acquired as minor league players. Jeffers, Julien, Lewis, Celestino, Larnach and Wallner, That is it! 7 years and that is it, When this FO arrived it was given and outfield of Rosario, Buxton, Kepler, and infield of Polanco, Sano, and Arreaz and Garver at catcher and they turned those into a hot pile of .......
  15. TwinsDr2021
    Ok, so we aren't talking about Contreras, Lamarre and Stevenson, but I wasn't the one (and neither were you) that said Kepler and Larnach or Wallner could have gotten Lopez.
  16. TwinsDr2021
    There were so many moves between Berrios and Arreaz that it doesn't make sense to even talk about that. Gray, Paddock, Mahle, and on and on.
  17. TwinsDr2021
    I don't disagree with really anything you said, but none of that has really has much to do with what the Marlins wanted, unless you are saying it was the Twins that pushed to trade LA and not that Miami was requiring him. IMO it was the Marlins that wanted him and the Twins saying the only way we do it is give us Salas. And if the Twins FO was pushing AL over unproven mid 20's prospect, well more reason to fire them. Because if I ran the Marlins and the Twins said to me you can have any 3 of the following 4 Larnach, Kepler, Wallner or Julien for Lopez, I would laugh at the Twins and say I am not taking your garbage for a young solid starting pitcher. Why would I (being the Marlin FO) want to clog my 40 man with these guys, I mean I would have some interest in Julien, but he would have to be added to ERod or Lee, something not on the 40 right now and to be honest the Marlins are the ones that added a top 100 prospect to get Arreaz.
  18. TwinsDr2021
    If Julien and Wallner were doing what the have been doing and currently doing and were age 21 and22 or even 22 and 23 that and another minor league player would probably have gotten the deal done. The odds are not in Wallner's favor of being a future all star, they are a bit better for Julien, compare that to Arraez and it is a no brainer why Wallner, Larnach and Julie still wear Twins uniforms and Arraez does not.
  19. TwinsDr2021
    No chance that Kepler and one of those others would have gotten Lopez. Age current accomplishments prior to this year Wallner 25 years old and 200 days - 133 major league at bats 44 strike outs. Larnach 26 years old 124 days - 420 major league at bats sub .700 OPS and injured multiple times. Julien 24 years old 61 days - AA player Arraez 26 years old 82 days (All Star, 13th in MVP voting, Batting Champ, Silver Slugger) and 4 years of proven major league at bats. There is a reason they wanted Arraez and not those other 3, because he good and proven and the others are older and haven proven anything. Pablo Lopez is 27 years old 115 days that is 90 older than Ryan and younger than Ober, that is 1 year and 9 month older than Varland. MN Twins fans can go on believing prospects age doesn't matter and Covid year this and that, But it does and teams aren't going to trade a young guy for unproven guys basically there same age. Did the Twins trade Berrios for mid 20's unproven players? Nope, they traded for 22 year old Martin and a 20 year old SWR.
  20. TwinsDr2021
    Not sure it is nitpicking, in his last 125 at bats he has 6 doubles, 1 homer, 15 walks, 39 K's hitting .240 with a OBP of .321 His first 22 at bats were amazing, .409/.536/.773, 9/22, 2 doubles, 2 homers, 6 walks, 5 strikeouts Then he went 1/7 and it was downhill from there, his power dropped, his walks dropped his K's went up. Like I said I want him to be good, really good and I hope he turns it around. But he hasn't been good in a month and a half.
  21. TwinsDr2021
    Going to have to disagree with this take, just about everything AK did was in May, June was terrible. May 22/70 - 3 homers, 14 walks - , .314/.448/.486 June 17/77 - 1 homer 6, walks - .221/.286/.325 I like AK and hope he can turn it around, but he was a contributor to this terrible June baseball the Twins played, not the exception. Miranda got send down for very similar numbers in April 26/104 - 3 homers, 7 walks, .250/.304/.365 Larnach was worse when he got sent down, but not a whole lot worse.
  22. TwinsDr2021
    So you took that he won't win an MVP because he doesn't hit homers as he isn't that good? I was responding to somebody else saying if he wins MVP, not if he ends up in the top 5 which you seem to be saying. On ESPN and baseball reference (maybe the same, not sure) he is behind Marte in WAR (3.6,3.5), In case you didn't know Marte also plays second, not saying Marte is better but there could be an argument made. In no way was I saying he isn't good, because obviously he is, I was just pointing out facts, only Ichiro won an MVP with less than 10 homers and that was in 2001 before that was Rose in 1973. I could also point out how few second basemen win the award. If you re-read my response to somebody I didn't even comment on if the trade was good or bad, so Would I have made the trade, yup, Would I have made the trade knowing how the two players would play in a 1/2 season I still would. The Twins got a 27 year old pitcher with a better than average track record and this FO hasn't proved they can develop that themselves. Do I think the Marlins are laughing, I don't, I think they are happy that they went out and got a offensive player that is really good for a position that seem pretty good at developing, how this trades ends up is still yet to be determined but as of now I think the Marlins are really, really happy, and the Twins are satisfied they were able to slot in a starter that averages 6 innings a start and as of yet hasn't gotten hurt. Does it hurt not having Arraez, yes, where we hoping for more from Lopez, yes, but having Arraez and say SWR in the rotation make this a better team, I don't know that it does. Want to know who might be laughing right now? Toronto and Houston, they got Berrios and Pressly and the Twins have gotten, wait for it basically nothing to this point.
  23. TwinsDr2021
    With the way the 40 man roster is constructed, it is hard to add more mid to late 20 year olds to it. The 40 man is loaded with unproven older guys. (Larnach, Miranda, AK, Wallner, Julien, Winder, Sands, Headrick, Canterino, Alcala, Lewis) That is 25% of the 40 man, sure Lewis looks like a keeper, maybe Julien, the rest as of now are just players, Looking at the 40 man on the non-pitching side, there are two obvious to get rid of (Kepler and Gallo) but then who? Nobody they are going to cut so it would have to be a trade, and who of the above mentioned players are going to return anything? Plus at some point Gordon is coming back and another decision will need to be made. Plus who at the end of the year goes away? Taylor and Solano and more unproven players will need to be added. On the they are screwed because none of the following at taken a job AK, Larnach, Celestion, Wallner, Miranda.
  24. TwinsDr2021
    I guess you missed where I said cut Kepler and send Gallo to the bench. I am not mad at Buxton, he is just terrible, and if the Twins want to DL they can, simply by saying he needs to be back in CF and if he can't he needs to go on the DL. IMO bringing Larnach and Miranda don't do what I want to accomplish and that is shake things up, get players worried about their job and by passing those two for guys in AA does that IMO.
  25. TwinsDr2021
    How the Pressly and Berrios trades don't make the list is beyond my comprehension. Both still could end up well, but as of now, they basically got 4 minor league players. Don't care how good Martin, Celestino, SWR and Alcala could be (I mean I do and hope they are) but as of now they haven't been good.
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