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  1. TheLeviathan
    Yup, this. It isn't anger, it's bewilderment.
  2. TheLeviathan
    This is reminiscent of Park and not in a good way.
  3. TheLeviathan
    Why acquire the more expensive guy in the first place? There is hardly time for anyone to prove anything before you are committed to Cron.
  4. TheLeviathan
    I can't follow that logic.
  5. TheLeviathan
    I guess I can't see this as being a depth move. If you make this claim, you're planning on him being more than that. Otherwise, it seems odd to want to commit a relatively significant amount of money to him. And where I struggle to see the upside is when you juxtapose what Cron can bring to what Austin can bring. There is significant downside in both of them as neither have established being a legitimate starting 1B at this point, but their upsides look roughly similar too. So....why not just keep the cheaper guy you already have on your roster? I don't know, I look at things through an upside lens. I want the Twins to make moves that will maximize their possible success. And I just don't see how this moves that needle.
  6. TheLeviathan
    What's the upside?
  7. TheLeviathan
    Don't you think this is a bit different considering his expected arbitration price? As Nick points out, I doubt the Twins make this claim without plans to have him on the roster. And that means they are planting (at least partially) their 1B/DH flag on Cron and a 5M commitment. People keep saying they don't see the downside, but the better question is.....where's the upside?
  8. TheLeviathan
    You must be new around here. Sit down, grab something with some kick in it, make yourself a drink, and let me regal you with stories of the Pohlads.....
  9. TheLeviathan
    If he's so easy to cut, and offers so little, I don't see the point in adding him. I don't see how someone can know that roster spots are limited and budgets are finite and make this point? He DOES have real costs. And 5M is NOT marginal for many of the needs on this roster
  10. TheLeviathan
    You can cut Grossman irrespective of adding Cron. So that really doesn't fly. 5M against next year's budget is not a marginal cost in adding a bullpen player. It could be as much as 40-50% of what your offer is per year. Ditto for many of the MIF guys we might consider.
  11. TheLeviathan
    Are the splits worth 5M? If not, I don't see the point. Take that 5M and add it to a bid for a reliever. You know, chase wins where you can rather than add redundancy.
  12. TheLeviathan
    One that plays a different position. Like outfield. Or first and third. We already have a right handed hitting 1B who put up a .782 OPS and makes the league minimum. Cron is redundant and we paid 5M for that redundancy. To use your phrase - I'd rather use that 5M to chase wins in the bullpen, outfield, or other positions. We won't get many wins for that 5M increase over Austin. MLB teams simply do not have the space on a 25 man roster for redundancy unless the guys are ridiculously good. And that adjective does not fit Cron.
  13. TheLeviathan
    You don't seem to believe that argument in this thread?
  14. TheLeviathan
    You're paying 5M over 500k for an increase in OPS of .044. You keep making his .800 OPS out to be significantly more than Austin. Austin put up a .782 OPS. I don't consider it worth 5M and a roster spot to up that to .816. Especially since the two players play the same position. The majority of Cron's career has not been a .816 OPS player. He was just DFA'd by the Rays. I think counting on him to be a 30 HR, .800 OPS guy is fool's gold. The roster spot just used on Cron should've been used on a right-handed outfielder. Not a limited corner infielder. We have those.
  15. TheLeviathan
    4-5M is considerably more than the minimum. And Cron does not have a track record of 30 and .800. In fact, his track record looks a lot like what Austin did last year.
  16. TheLeviathan
    I'm not penciling either of them into 30 HRs and an OPS north of .800. Given the same number of at-bats, I think the two will have roughly similar numbers. Which I'd put closer to .775 and 25 bombs. If either Austin or Cron could play other positions....fine. But as they are, these two feel entirely redundant. And if they're redundant - I'd rather keep the younger, cheaper one.
  17. TheLeviathan
    4M and a roster spot certainly could be downside. I feel like we already have CJ Cron at an eighth of the price in Austin. This....makes no sense to me. I hope it works out, but I don't like this as a starting point for the offseason.
  18. TheLeviathan
    They have been mentioned, but the focus is on STL. Everyone, including Twins' beat writers, indicate that the talks never got past the preliminary stages.
  19. TheLeviathan
    It's a good win and there is some small progress, but it's hard to judge. They had some really good wins (at Wisconsin, dominate Purdue, beat Fresno) and some absolutely inexcusable losses.
  20. TheLeviathan
    Counterfactuals man. You are neck deep in them and I'm not sure you understand that.
  21. TheLeviathan
    We know next to nothing about these men. We have to hope that the FO is organizing the coaching staff around the principles they believe in. And then we'll judge the outcomes.
  22. TheLeviathan
    Honestly, I'd rather not have any of these guys. Maybe Donaldson, but he might be cooked. He's got upside, so I wouldn't complain, but I'd rather invest elsewhere I think.
  23. TheLeviathan
    Hope he works out!
  24. TheLeviathan
    House of Cards should've been mercifully put down 3 seasons ago. It was so brilliant to start and it has fallen so, so far since.
  25. TheLeviathan
    And this comes back to why WAR may not be all that useful to this discussion. I doubt most people are going to be thrilled with a .650 OPS player in the every day lineup no matter what his WAR total is. My point is simply this -we have significant samples in which he has NOT hit. Most of his time in the big leagues so far, in fact. And at times, as you said in the post I quoted, it's not just that he's been bad. He's been historically bad. With all sorts of serious red flags all over his offensive profile. It is a very real downside that those samples become the reality. And that should be acknowledged, even if you want to bet on the upside.
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