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  1. The drafting sure seems to be better....so far at least.
  2. I can't argue with that position, just not there yet myself. Bracing for it though.
  3. You might be surprised how many players on this roster are over 27. I agree with that thinking though.
  4. No one is melting down or ranting. It's not panic to trade guys 30 years old to build around the guys that are 25. Labeling it that way is hyperbole. The players I want dealt are all bad bets to continue their contributions in the future. It is malpractice to tie your anchor to them and pretend that everything will be fine. Go ahead...build around Kepler, Sano, Buxton, Berrios, Hildy, etc. It might fail, but at least age is on their side. Esco, Duke, Rodney, Gibson, LoMo, Dozier however? No, it's not. Even when bad luck is a factor you have to know when to cut your losses. Sometimes you have to accept your setback and get back on solid ground before you push forward. It's a lot better strategy than thinking you can dig your way out of a hole by digging some more.
  5. This 25 man roster come August 1st better look a helluva lot different or I'm right there with you.
  6. Seriously, your post is all over the place and rather emotional. From a business perspective where it is important to make sound decisions grounded in reality, you're suggestions would doom a company. You seem to be ignoring reality and painting the future in the most positive light in spite of the facts. Gibson is already in his early 30s. A team on pace for 94 wins is not "a few relievers" away. These are just a few direct examples of what I'm talking about. Those statements are pretty much unjustifiable. The first because your quoted statement seems to say you understand the aging curve for pitching, but either don't realize Gibson is already there or are ignoring the implications. The second issue is almost comical. We might lose close to 100 games and we just need a few relievers? I'll save the adjectives for describing that, but....yeesh. It's hard to frame your argument any other way than hopeful in spite of the evidence. All evidence points to this team needing major reshaping. I'm sorry holding pat doesn't make sense, but it doesn't make sense. You should start to come to terms with that. It sounds like everyone around baseball, including the Twins, have already done so.
  7. What spycake said, Lynn's inconsistency has likely tanked his value and Pressley doesn't have the career chops to have much either. As for team control, guys like Pressley can be had with minimal effort. Like how we got him in the first place.
  8. It's too bad the Rockies aren't contending, because buying low on Gray would be great. I'm not sure they'd sign off on that though. Talking to the Brewers about a Dozier/Lynn package should be automatic after this series. Woodruff is a heavy sinkerball guy with great velocity, he might be worth a look. Corey Ray's speed might be nice also. Just two guys I saw that you could highlight a package with, not both together.
  9. Duke and Rodney will have value too. I think the team could net a really interesting haul for Gibson, Escobar, Duke, Rodney, and Pressley. If someone gives more than I expect for LoMo, Lynn, or Dozier than you should do that too. Standing pat will lead us to nothing but regret. None of these players are 22 or even 26, they're all well down the aging curve.
  10. Gibson is in his 30s already. Extending him past next year is pretty much doomed to fail before the ink dries. It was much like the Dozier logic...sure, you can try and bet that Gibson or Dozier will be the exception to the rule on the aging curve but it's not wise. You're far more likely to have it backfire in your face. I get that you're convinced we can just maintain the status quo and be "fine". No offense, but that kind of thinking is really, really flawed. If this was a business and you were advocating this thinking for your company I'd want to sell all your stock and warn your employees to jump ship. It's just not forward, value-driven thinking. And the Twins have been burned by that exact mentality for too long in my fandom. I'm done with it. I hope the guys in the FO go the other direction.
  11. You're talking about shopping all the guys that are unlikely to get any attention or interest at all. If you want to hand them away, that's fine, but it seems odd to me to assert how important and valuable Gibson is to 2019 and also assert he's worthless on the trade market. Likely to be the case that one of those two opinions is false. Gibson has been good (and his analytics are solid) and has control. He'll be a valuable chip. Lynn and LoMo? You'll be lucky if people answer the phone.
  12. Or the team could address some of those concerns in the types of talents they target. Trading Gibson for Sheffield (just as an example) basically changes nothing other than swapping the two players on the 40 man. The team has held on to talents far too many times, only to see them crumble into a valueless commodity we're all able to wash our hands of later. And Gibson may be the most valuable chip we bring to the table. You don't have to deal him, but you sure as hell better shop him.
  13. I’m not sure 2019 has to be the concern right now. If the team gets a variety of assets at the deadline, they can be aggressive financially and in the trade market come November.
  14. Trade him for Troy Tulowitski anyone? For the record, we're now almost a year into this change from Gibson. It isn't just a half year, this run stretches back to last year. The year of control and the last year of performance should give you some interesting offers. This team needs to sell on players like this, even if you swallow hard while you do it.
  15. Chief said I'm ignoring evidence about managers. I asked him to post evidence about what makes Molitor a bad manager. I also posted an article suggesting such evidence is nearly impossible to find/quantify. Everyone is welcome to feel like they approve of Molitor or don't. It's like who you choose to like/dislike as a player. Everyone has their preferences. Where it gets silly is when any of you think you have some quantifiable, evidence based reason for it. I might as well start a thread about how "likable" Fernando Rodney is. That's what these threads ultimately break down to. There is no real evidence for anyone's position, just personal preferences.
  16. Everyone should enjoy Deadpool 2.
  17. Please, post hard evidence. I have yet to see any.....pro or con. As the article I posted shows, it sorta doesn't exist.
  18. Except you are fuming about pushback when there is a "why" suggested. People are saying he is lazy and just doesn't care. That is a "why" answer. People struggle with weight for many reasons, I doubt you'd go down the street pointing at every overweight person and concluding "lazy!"...."doesn't care!" We can be critical and hold him to account without attacking his character. The phrasing is simple: "We need Sano to be less lazy and care about helping us" vs. "We need Sano to address what is holding him back so he can help the team" The former is a personal attack. The latter is totally fair.
  19. The article literally tells us to ignore the time when the team played well under Molitor. And literally ignores how the D-backs played in May. The prior thread brought out such ground-breaking evidence as "He's not Tom Kelly" You know, the guy who couldn't finish .500 for a decade. The truth is - there isn't much evidence. It's all feelings, largely about middle managers. You're entitled to your feelings,but pretending you have anything resembling concrete evidence is a fantasy.
  20. It would make more sense. Let me summarize every future manager thread: I like manager: Every time we play well: "he's awesome! All to his credit" When we don't play well: "Fill in excuse here" I don't like manager: Every time we play well: "yeah but he got lucky, his players are the ones who get credit", When we play poorly: "He sucks, it's his fault" Pretty much exactly what this article produced too. Even managed to do it about another team's manager in the same article! At some point when nobody can come up with a good argument for their position, maybe it's not a topic worth talking about.
  21. Perhaps if the arguments sounded more like this....you'd be seeing less push back. Instead it's "He didn't do what his employer needed him too because he clearly didn't care about it" When that last part is added on, that's when you've ventured into much murkier water. Basically from fair criticism to wild speculation. The Twins are concerned, but what their specific concerns are have been kept pretty quiet. Which is how it should be so they avoid giving more fodder to people who want to attack Sano. Last year Sano was an All-Star. He overcame Tommy John surgery ahead of schedule. He overcame the death of a child and played baseball through it. He excelled playing through the minors. If he "didn't care" and was "lazy" - he'd have never made it to the expectations we hold him to. Perhaps you should consider all those factors as well when you are making assumptions about his character because of his struggles.
  22. Baseball still holds on to a lot of traditions and the new wave of FO types are only beginning to settle in. I think a revolutionary approach to the dugout is only a matter of time. You'll still need a go-between of sorts and a person who coordinates the baseball specialists (hitting, fielding,pitching, etc.), but I believe we'll see major changes in what skill set is asked for that role. It'll be less about a baseball strategist and more about being a people strategist.
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