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Depending on the trade partner I don't think that's necessarily true. Brewers...maybe. Mets? maybe not so much. What I don't want is that contract as a deadweight as we try to add on pitching.
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A couple thoughts: 1) I'm on board to trade Donaldson. At his age we are looking at a likely dropoff in his production next year or the year after. This may be our last chance to let his talent/production make him attractive as a trade chip. Even if we get a flyer prospect for him, it may be the time to do that. 2) Losing his defense (though, it is also trending down) will hurt and I personally love what he brings to the clubhouse. But '22 is likely a retooling year while the pitching pipeline develops. I'd rather let Arraez and Miranda get time at 3B then deposit those ABs into a declining player. 3) Moving on from Donaldson frees up a significant amount of money to pursue pitching and other needed positions. Would I rather have Arraez and Noah Syndegaard or Donaldson and some scrub? For me, that choice is relatively easy. No disrespect to JD, loved the signing, I just think you have to think a year or two ahead in a situation like this.
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I think #1 and #3 are well argued and plausible. Ryan's deception is legit and Kiriloff looks like a pro IMO. I think #2 and #4 were the right archetypes for this blog but the wrong players. Jax, if he ever becomes that reliever, almost certainly won't do it in 2022. The guy that could is Alcala. His results speak to a young man who has turned the corner and could be lights out. And the guy who should have been #4 IMO was Marten who is much closer to pro ready and might be the kind of do-it-all LF that could transform the lineup and the outfield D. He could be this team's Whit Merrifield and has a much better chance of it in the near term than Lewis. I still believe in Lewis, but the kid is going to need some patience.
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First, neither of us can be right pr wrong about Seager's market value because it hasn't materialized. Second, my point that open market free agent deals have dwindled is correct for a myriad of reasons including extensions.
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4 contracts in three years is a dramatic downturn from the past. I never said it didn't happen, I said the frequency is dramatically lower. Your unearned condescension only adds to the error here.
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I suggested you scroll through the last few years. I reiterate that suggestion.
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I encourage you to scroll through the last few years and so how the landscape has changed. This isn't the 7-10 year term contracts for Scott Boras era anymore.
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This is not how teams operate any more. Your string of posts in this thread have a pattern of lacking context. It is possible Seager will get more term but very, very few FA contracts exceed four years anymore.
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Right but the rest of those years had plenty of spending. We have young, potential core guys up now too.
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I don't know why you cited 2013 thru 2016 if all you meant was 2013? The point isn't clear.
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Aren't those Cubs signings exactly what happened in 2014-16? Only 2013 fits your example.
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A worthy consideration for sure. I think the team would be wise to stay in the 1-3 year terms if possible. One alternative would be 1 year, high AAV bounce back targets you trade in July.
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In an effort to get the thread back on track, I do agree with people that the team has a high need for pitching. What I will also suggest is that the team has a lot of money available to make several high priced signings. There isn't any reason the team can't sign multiple pitchers and a high price shortstop this offseason.
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Holy derailed thread. My god. This just in....Ozzie Smith is a schmo with the glove and A-Rod couldn't out-hit a one armed Simmons.
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Possibly, but baseball has steered away from those contracts pretty hard. Most big deals are now 4-5 years. But, yes, I do agree with you it could escalate to there. Part of me thinks the array of shortstop options may mitigate that possibility.
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This team can and should be in on Correa and Seager. Walking away with one of them makes this team a whole lot better for the next few years. I think 4/108 gets Seager and I make that splash in a heartbeat. This team needs a competent shortstop that can hit his way out of a paper bag. Right now we have one who isn't a good fielder (Polanco) and another is so bad with the bat he's barely better than an NL pitcher. (He Who Should Be Elsewhere)
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Starters getting pulled in the 6th is pretty much par for the course now. The Twins aren't doing anything the rest of the league isn't doing as well. That's just the modern game and how they protect arms. Nice article - I agree strongly on Simmons. He was a putrid offensive player whose one calling card is no longer elite, just good. You can find "good" shortstops that aren't slap-hitting .500 OPS guys. You damn sure don't have to pay them 10M and bring a bunch of other issues along with them. The team has too many no-field hitters as is. As much as I love Nellie, this team isn't the right fit for him. They'll need to look for leadership inside the current locker room.
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Who Can the Twins Deal?
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Garver is fairly old and has a troubling durability history. His bat is good enough that I think he's the prize piece to move. You'll get a really good arm for him IMO and that's worth more than being three deep at catcher. Toss a contract at a career backup instead. If you want to get something you've got to give something. This team won't reverse fortunes on free agency alone.- 74 replies
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I hate to break it to people, but based on this board's general definition of "ace" there isn't one available to sign this offseason. If there was, the Twins would need to be giving them a Gerrit Cole-like contract. The best they'll do this offseason is add some stability with good to solid pitching. They need to do that, but I think it'll be helpful once the offseason starts to keep our expectations within the realm of reason.
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Twins Catcher May Be Marlins Perfect Catch
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I'm confused why you don't see options? SP is an area they have players they can move. Good ones. So...explain please? -
Twins Catcher May Be Marlins Perfect Catch
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Makes sense, but I'd happily have the Garver/Sixto conversation. That's what the Twins need to be looking for. -
Twins Catcher May Be Marlins Perfect Catch
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I also don't think that larger package works. But how close are we in a swap of: Mitch Garver for Max Meyer or Sixto Sanchez Is that sort of one for one a viable path? If so, I make that trade in a heartbeat. -
Byron Buxton Isn’t the Next David Ortiz
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Buxton for CJ Abrams, Dinelson Lamet, Trent Grisham, and the Hosmer salary dump. Who says no? (I seriously don't know)- 32 replies
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