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  1. Santana from the Brewers was just dealt for far less than Gordon. I get being intrigued by Cave, but guys like him are ST casualties all the time. Arguing either Cron or Cave is more valuable than Gordon is completely unsupported by facts.
  2. He declined to play for one of the top 3 teams in the league in a better climate. He chose money. As would most all human beings. I’d like to think this is our nail in the coffin scenario for the “it isn’t all about the money” nonsense.....but I’m not that optimistic. Cruz is the norm, not the exception....so good for him to cash in on his success.
  3. Lofty? Who said that? Shall we review the cost the Twins had to pay to acquire these guys? (Hint: one was nothing) You think Gordon has less value than that?
  4. Um....that seems like a no brainer Nick. I can replace Cron or Cave pretty inexpensively. Acquiring fringe top 100 prospects? Not so much.
  5. I don't want to argue about the rankings, I will just try to make sense of them the best I can. But it seems to me that the Twins almost certainly could trade Gordon tomorrow for a significantly better player than Cron or Cave to help this organization.
  6. All of that is fine, but it does make things choppy to argue the list about trade value for one guy and present value for another. If Javier is 16th due to trade value, then it makes no sense for Gordon to be behind Cave or Cron. I don’t want to nitpick, but this is meant to be a fun conversational piece and a lack of clear method is going to derail it. It’ll feel like some random, dumb power rankings rather than meat for good conversation. The explanations only muddle this IMO.
  7. Ok...that explains Cron and Gordon.....but then Javier is 16th and none of this makes any sense again. There is no way he has more present value to the Twins than anyone on the big league roster. And probably a dozen dudes in AAA. I love him as a prospect to watch though, but he torpedoes this whole explanation with his ranking.
  8. Nope - rotation. Fill the pen in FA and let this kid start.
  9. Yup, FA plays by one rule: Pay the man. Time to do the same for a few more men. Preferably men who pitch.
  10. I'm happy the team was not content with Austin or Cron as DH. I think Cruz has a huge year. I love that he is a vet with a ton to offer this team. Great signing.
  11. I agree. They won’t blow up the combine but they are so technically sound and hard working they carve out long careers. Those two and Coughlin jump out when you watch them.
  12. For wise reasons, these players don't consider teams other than the West Coast. But, hey! We're kicking tires!
  13. At the rate of this offseason, we should be contemplating trading Gibson. So, yeah, but default you can't extend him.
  14. This is a racket. Racket I say!
  15. I like signing Cruz....but that only makes the Cron acquisition more befuddling.
  16. While you are technically correct on the first portion of your response, I feel that is too convenient/kind/(struggling for the right word). I don't think frustration over spending is solved by saying "yeah, but look at these non-zero allocations of payroll!". We have plenty of money to do a lot this offseason. I hope the second half of what you said is true, but if that happens it also might no longer qualify as "standing pat" either.
  17. I took from your comment that the team will have 30M coming off after this year. What did you mean by that, if not to imply they'd have money to spend? We've been hearing for half a decade that Mauer's contract was stopping us from being aggressive. And yet here we are....
  18. At this point, I'm not sure why freeing up money should matter to us as fans?
  19. Well said. Honestly....that argument is so tiresome. People refer to the actions under a GM as short-hand. Trying to dissect that to make a silly point is so...damn...tiresome. Every single transaction a GM makes has layers of underlings deeply involved. Just let posters make short-hand comments without trying to start a thing every time. (Especially since we only seem to see this when the name Bill Smith appears) Schoop might have been the brainchild of some scout or the hitting coach or someone other than Levine. But, good or bad, we'll assign the responsibility to Levine.
  20. This was sarcasm right? Not that I mind Schoop...but Torryes has a .664 OPS. And the Yankees thanked him on his way out. But that's the talent landscape in the MI. It's sorta bad.
  21. Plus Cleveland selling off. I don't mind this signing if the Twins think they can rekindle 2017. But if that's the case....sign him for longer than a year.
  22. It's not clear to me that any of these guys will be better than Adrianza next year. Probably Holt, but maybe not. And that's sorta my point.
  23. I don't believe every baseball player should be playing at SS and 2B. I think that position group will always have a scarcity of good hitters that can capably field those positions at the level required in the big leagues. It's a rare skill set to handle 2B/SS and be a good major league hitter. Hence the scarcity. No amount of rational belief in flexibility should lead you to a different conclusion. This is an example of when you start to veer away from something I can agree with.
  24. But that didn't really answer my question. .750 OPS players, especially those who can play SS and 2B, are scarce. I'm not even sure that's a debatable contention. I understand your point about utilization, I don't think I disagree. But that doesn't seem to address the scarcity issue and your response to that. Maybe you did mean something entirely different? Should that be my takeaway?
  25. Yup. One can argue that Adrianza is a bad utility player, but one must ignore facts to do so. Brock Holt and Marwin Gonzalez were the only two players significantly better in their role than Adrianza last year. Most everyone else is a .675-.725 OPS player with ranges of defensive ability.
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