Jocko87
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Three Offseason Decisions Already Hurting the Twins
Jocko87 replied to Cody Pirkl's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
I was leading the retain Farmer camp all offseason and I'm still in that camp. A slow start at the plate doesn't change that. I am curious about the defense, it's probably a wash between him and Castro at short and third but interesting the way they are playing it. True, every one is dealing with injuries but their unfortunate combinations of injuries are making for odd lineups. Plenty of time for the move to still pay out. It's pessimistic peacocking time, all the doomsday predictions are suddenly enshrined as fact after a rough couple of weeks. Also, there were no starting pitchers avaliable at 6.3m when the desicion on Farmer was made. Several months later, yes, but that's not how it works unfortunately. If we look at Farmer as the market they misjudged this year, that's pretty damn good.- 144 replies
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I've been working on a spreadsheet for Favline pitching acquisitions as I'm curious that I thought I was picking up a pattern of age and body type in their selections. Sure enough, they have a type. I'm traveling and don't have it in front of me, and I'm certainly not done with the research but some patterns are very strong. The average pitcher acquired by Favline (from memory) is about 6' 2 1/4“, 215 lbs and on the older side. We know their proclivity for college arms and I believe it's part of the plan. There are some notable exceptions, like a Raya, but he is truly an outlier size wise. Probably 90% are within 2 inches and 20 lbs of the average. I'll post a plot when I get back off the road. While I believe the college pitcher angle is mainly aligned with trying to get their best years as controllable arb years the arm health is almost certainly part of the equation. Many have already had their Tommy John and there is much more information available on the arm in general. I'm convinced they believe it is a risk to invest in non-optimum body types and this is why. I'm really just starting with the research but it's a very interesting topic.
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Twins Sign Tony Kemp to Minor-League Deal
Jocko87 replied to Theodore Tollefson's topic in Twins Minor League Talk
Isn't he just a better, more experienced version of Nick Gordon? Except that he can actually play 2B. Full circle. -
While I'm sure this was written before he gave those two above average outs back last night early returns on the defense have been good. But let's pump the breaks on the DPOY voting for just a few months. Defensive statistics being what they are, small sample sizes aren't exactly crowning achievements. I will say that if I thought he could improve this much on defense it would have changed a few of my assumptions for the off-season.
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Yeah, that's pretty much exactly what I said. Did you even read it? Every avaliable data point disagrees with you except the cheap part. With your reading comprehension this willfully bad I'm going to assume you are trolling and disengage but I'll be keenly tuned for the next time Nick Gordon puts on an infield glove for any reason.
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There's something to work with here. Location sucks, pitch execution sucks, two strike thought process sucks. All things that can be fixed. But throwing 98 at the 90th pitch can't be taught. He needs some time as he just figured out the 98 thing last year. Living at 96 with more movement and dotting 98 occasionally late in the game is ace level ****.
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Ahh, the opening day with a myriad of trades, injuries, starting pitcher combination to get him a desperation start. Only to be hit for/defensively replaced by Farmer in a tight game. Of the 8 whole starts he got at 2B he was able to finish 4 of them. He didn't touch the infield for a month before he got hurt. Quote any defensive statistics you like, just know they are more effected by small sample size than most considering they aren't terribly effective in the first place. Gordon has a small sample size for a reason. This is one of those times where the coaches tell you before the data does. That he doesn't have an infield appearance with the Marlins and their stellar infield defense tells me that they agree with Rocco and Co. Perennial unobtainium glove candidate Luis Arraez is holding off Gordon at 2B. This was not a discussion I thought was serious at the start but holy cow.
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Are you playing him in the infield? Multiple coaching staffs seem to agree that's a bad idea. When you evaluate him as an outfielder only, the equation changes dramatically. Then refer to the previous list of LH outfield bats ahead of him.
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I do too and was stunned they got so much for Gordon. It seemed obvious that the Twins would be forced to cut him eventually so they could have waited. He's got value, just not to the Twins.
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Resolving the Apparent Infield Logjam
Jocko87 replied to stringer bell's topic in Minnesota Twins Talk
I'm not at a shambles either but reading this list of names puts it in context. If that was a top minor league system, that's not a very good hit rate. This front office has been steadily removing any traces of the previous regime, mostly it was required.- 133 replies
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Taking the price out of the equation, Farmer is better for this roster in every possible way. I, and the front office are comfortable with paying about 5.5m more for Farmer in a cost cutting year. It's not close. The proper comp is Margot, especially since Gordon is no longer an infielder (and a marginal outfielder at that). RH balance and Buxton insurance was needed and Nick provides neither. Being left handed without options or versatility is a tough fit. If I'm hoping for a LHH outfielder to produce ahead of Kep, Wallner, Kirilloff, Larnach, Castro I'm going to look at Erod, who kinda takes his place on the 40 man. Shoot, I'd even take a look at Kiersey before I gave Gordon run, especially if centerfield help is needed. It doesn't give me pleasure to say this as someone who is still pulling for him, but Nick Gordon is a AAAA player at best who has no place on this roster in any form. I wish him the best in Miami. Acting like a 26 PA stretch can be used to present him as some sort of front office misstep is flat silly. They were delighted to even get a player back in trade. It's much more than could be reasonably expected.
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Fair. If you can find a serious discussion on keeping Gordon over any of the mentioned individuals at the time I'd read it. In the meantime, Gordon is still who we thought he was.
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Week in Review: In Dire Straits Out of the Gate
Jocko87 replied to Nick Nelson's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
Just when I was about to say momentum is tomorrow's starting pitcher the bullpen let one get away. However, momentum is tomorrow's starting pitcher. Good on Ryan, SWR and Ober. Absent a rusty Thielbar we'd be feeling pretty good today at 7-7 with no injuries being season enders. The B team is good, they will be alright while the A team heals. It's a long road.- 6 replies
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See, now this is the early season chicken little, small sample size, sky falling on my head content I come to Twins Daily for. So good, I happily pay extra.
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No dammit. I'm out of town all of April and would completely miss his Wichita stint if they go too fast. Such is the curse of the AA town. If they're good, they're gone. Also Seth, Wichita is by far the nicest of the affiliate towns. How have you not been here yet? Oh yeah, nobody stays here. Which is a good thing.
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6-7 feels a heck of a lot better than 4-9 or 5-8. Still early but a big swing. SWR and Sands showing why spending $30m on a pitcher is completely unnecessary. Ducks.
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